CPU Temps were fine months ago, but are now constantly 70+ even when idle, and throttling when under load.

[freeagent]

I draw a line down the side, and pull it across to the other side. Then I switch directions until it is perfect. I do wipe the spatula if I did happen to put a bit too much down. For me, its perfect every time.

17 minutes ago, Vennaya said:

Would that make a difference?

Yes, especially at the upper end of the wattage scale for that CPU.

 

18 minutes ago, Vennaya said:

but thats likely within the margin of error of ambient temp and humidity and such, yea?

Nah. 5c is too high for margin of error. Honestly, PS120 would have been better, but you already have that one soo.. I would just run it.. 

 

Actually I wouldn't.. I couldn't be satisfied knowing there is a better air cooler. I like the PS120 EVO when I am not using this AIO.

[Vennaya]

2 hours ago, freeagent said:

I draw a line down the side, and pull it across to the other side. Then I switch directions until it is perfect. I do wipe the spatula if I did happen to put a bit too much down. For me, its perfect every time.

Yes, especially at the upper end of the wattage scale for that CPU.

 

Nah. 5c is too high for margin of error. Honestly, PS120 would have been better, but you already have that one soo.. I would just run it.. 

 

Actually I wouldn't.. I couldn't be satisfied knowing there is a better air cooler. I like the PS120 EVO when I am not using this AIO.

So do you suggest re-pasting the CPU then? And putting the other fan on despite the exhaust fan being like 1.5 inches behind it?

Would that really make enough of a difference to stop it from thermal throttling?

[NorKris]

5 hours ago, freeagent said:

That is probably your problem. Regardless of what Steve says, too much will act as an insulator.

[NorKris]

5 hours ago, Vennaya said:

It really wasn't THAT much.

 

It was maybe....two "peas" worth, if that makes sense. My reasoning was that with a single "pea" in the middle, when i took the old cpu cooler off, there was some obvious spots where the paste was thinner than it needed to be, because i could see metal underneath in a few small areas.

 

I technically only have one fan attached though to the peerless assasin. Would that make a difference?

The second one is being used as a case fan, mounted within an inch of the heatsink, rather than directly attached to it.

 

Based on what i could look up, the idle temps are very similar to what others have reported, maybe 5 degrees higher at most, but thats likely within the margin of error of ambient temp and humidity and such, yea?

Too much thermal paste making it hotter is a myth debunked alot of times. 

u might have said, but what case u using? 

[Vennaya]

1 minute ago, NorKris said:

Too much thermal paste making it hotter is a myth debunked alot of times. 

u might have said, but what case u using? 

It's not a well known brand at all. Even i don't remember it and would have to dig around quite a bit to find out. I dont see the point of buying a well known brand for a case, whatsoever. Its just throwing money down the drain.

 

My current case has 2x 200mm fans in the front, 280mm exhaust ports at the top, an intake at the bottom in front of the psu, and a single rear exhaust. There is no HDD cages or anything in the way of airflow or anything like that.

[NorKris]

2 minutes ago, Vennaya said:

It's not a well known brand at all. Even i don't remember it and would have to dig around quite a bit to find out. I dont see the point of buying a well known brand for a case, whatsoever. Its just throwing money down the drain.

 

My current case has 2x 200mm fans in the front, 280mm exhaust ports at the top, an intake at the bottom in front of the psu, and a single rear exhaust. There is no HDD cages or anything in the way of airflow or anything like that.

mesh front? / or easy for air to get in?

[Vennaya]

Just now, NorKris said:

mesh front? / or easy for air to get in?

Yea Mesh front. Mesh top, rear is also fairly airated. Only the Glass panel and back panel are the only solid panels anywhere.

Airflow isn't the issue. At least not the path it takes through the case. Otherwise it would have been a problem before now.

 

As mentioned, my MSI AIO Water cooler was perfectly fine for well over a year once i undervolted the CPU, and it was only in the past month or two (not entirely sure on the timeframe, as i wasnt actively monitoring temps) that temps started to go awry and i swapped the cooler.

[freeagent]

6 hours ago, NorKris said:

Try it for yourself Mr YouTube

[NorKris]

4 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Try it for yourself Mr YouTube

its been tested many times, and no ty, it waaay too messy when ur going to clean it up 

[freeagent]

Just now, NorKris said:

its been tested many times, and no ty, it waaay too messy when ur going to clean it up 

Tested by you, or you watched a bunch of people testing

 

A piece of paper towel and some iso is indeed waaay to messy. It takes 5 mins lol.

[NorKris]

1 minute ago, freeagent said:

Tested by you, or you watched a bunch of people testing

 

A piece of paper towel and some iso is indeed waaay to messy. It takes 5 mins lol.

i have seen vids of ppl testing this. and also,  lets use some logic:

is it even logical to think that "too much" paste can stay between the IHS and the coldplate after the "insane" lvl of mounting presure is being applied?    no its not. 

[freeagent]

Nice cop out bro.

 

Instead of watching tests, try some of your own.

[NorKris]

13 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Nice cop out bro.

 

Instead of watching tests, try some of your own.

ok, but this is going to be like  the AIO vs TR frost commander  all over again. 

[freeagent]

Just now, NorKris said:

ok, but this is going to be like  the AIO vs TR frost commander  all over again. 

Again, you cannot compare Intel to AMD for the hundredth time. Are you still hung up on that lol. FFS.

 

Don't do me any favors, you got this bro.

[NorKris]

3 minutes ago, freeagent said:

Again, you cannot compare Intel to AMD for the hundredth time. Are you still hung up on that lol. FFS.

 

are u still saying that the frost is better on an amd? 

[freeagent]

5 minutes ago, NorKris said:

are u still saying that the frost is better on an amd? 

I don't have an Intel so I cant say. People say Zen 3 is super hot, has not been my experience on 3 Zen 3 parts. So people who say Intel is hot, could be like the people who say AMD is hot.. I would have to run one to know.

[NorKris]

3 minutes ago, freeagent said:

I don't have an Intel so I cant say. People say Zen 3 is super hot, has not been my experience on 3 Zen 3 parts. So people who say Intel is hot, could be like the people who say AMD is hot.. I would have to run one to know.

while that is an reasonable answer, the fact is:

when the watts go waaaay up, it does not matter if its AMD or intel. the 240's win

[freeagent]

1 hour ago, NorKris said:

while that is an reasonable answer, the fact is:

when the watts go waaaay up, it does not matter if its AMD or intel. the 240's win

We will agree to disagree.

[NorKris]

1 minute ago, freeagent said:

We will agree to disagree.

ur not dissagreeing with me so much at with facts. as the last air cooler vid from HW canucks shows 

[freeagent]

9 minutes ago, NorKris said:

ur not dissagreeing with me so much at with facts. as the last air cooler vid from HW canucks shows 

More talk of videos.. yawn.

[NorKris]

4 minutes ago, freeagent said:

More talk of videos.. yawn.

dont hate videos. if it wasnt for them we wound not be here

[Vennaya]

Right...If you two are done....Can we please get back on topic? Im still unclear as to what might be causing this.

[RevGAM]

14 hours ago, freeagent said:

I draw a line down the side, and pull it across to the other side. Then I switch directions until it is perfect. I do wipe the spatula if I did happen to put a bit too much down. For me, its perfect every time.

Yes, especially at the upper end of the wattage scale for that CPU.

 

Nah. 5c is too high for margin of error. Honestly, PS120 would have been better, but you already have that one soo.. I would just run it.. 

 

Actually I wouldn't.. I couldn't be satisfied knowing there is a better air cooler. I like the PS120 EVO when I am not using this AIO.

Hehe. FS140 bro!

 

11 hours ago, Vennaya said:

And putting the other fan on despite the exhaust fan being like 1.5 inches behind it?

Why are you worried about this?

3 hours ago, freeagent said:

Tested by you, or you watched a bunch of people testing

 

A piece of paper towel and some iso is indeed waaay to messy. It takes 5 mins lol.

Liar. It takes less than 5 minutes.

3 hours ago, NorKris said:

i have seen vids of ppl testing this. and also,  lets use some logic:

is it even logical to think that "too much" paste can stay between the IHS and the coldplate after the "insane" lvl of mounting presure is being applied?    no its not. 

I don't remember which, but at least one TIM says not to spread it too thickly or it'll insulate. My understanding is that it depends on the materials but, ultimately, the smaller the gap between the IHS and cold plate, the better. 

2 hours ago, NorKris said:

while that is an reasonable answer, the fact is:

when the watts go waaaay up, it does not matter if its AMD or intel. the 240's win

You forgot the caveat that of the cooler contact was designed properly for one brand, but didn't make a correct one for the other, it'll only work well on one brand. Doesn't matter if it's air or water...

38 minutes ago, NorKris said:

dont hate videos. if it wasnt for them we wound not be here

My eyes!!!!  

[NorKris]

3 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

 

You forgot the caveat that of the cooler contact was designed properly for one brand, but didn't make a correct one for the other, it'll only work well on one brand. Doesn't matter if it's air or water...

this is true. but the thermal runaway takes care of some of that on the highend

[freeagent]

1 hour ago, NorKris said:

this is true. but the thermal runaway takes care of some of that on the highend

Thermal runaway is something that happens to “other” people