Advice on first-time build

[SunderedMountain]

This is the first pc build I've ever made and I want it to be able to run most games at 1440p 60fps. Everything here should be compatible, but I'm unsure how optimized it is or if I'm overspending in some areas. Any advice is appreciated. I live in the US and don't want to spend more than the total here

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGjgxH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($167.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($53.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.80 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.97 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GT 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: LG 27GP850-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($284.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1243.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-22 13:26 EDT-0400

[AndreiArgeanu]

It's a pretty solid build overall. I'd personally change the arctive freezer 34 for a Thermalright Peerless Assassin, 10$ cheaper and better performance as well.

[Linuswasright]

U can fit a 7700xt

Other than that, looks great I love the r7 5700x

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MdbDyg

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($167.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($53.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GAMING OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($419.00 @ B&H) 
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.90 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG 27GP850-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($284.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1213.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-22 13:52 EDT-0400

[leclod]

It's fine but for 100 bucks more you could go AM5

[Linuswasright]

12 minutes ago, leclod said:

It's fine but for 100 bucks more you could go AM5

Eh his budgets a budget.
 

Am5 isn’t that much better yet, if he doesn’t want to upgrade for a long while then it’ll be better.

[leclod]

3 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

Eh his budgets a budget

I can read, don't need you for it and he can tell me that himself if he thinks it

Edited March 22 by leclod

[Linuswasright]

Just now, leclod said:

I can read, don't need you for it

I know, I’m not being mean. I’m just saying, if he has a tight budget, it’s not possible. Tbh I agree with you.

 

My thing was more that rn am4 is better value. 

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

Am5 isn’t that much better yet

? 

7600 trades blows with a 580X3D and a 5700x is nowhere near that level of performance

43 minutes ago, SunderedMountain said:

This is the first pc build I've ever made and I want it to be able to run most games at 1440p 60fps. Everything here should be compatible, but I'm unsure how optimized it is or if I'm overspending in some areas. Any advice is appreciated. I live in the US and don't want to spend more than the total here

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGjgxH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($167.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($53.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($60.80 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($339.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.97 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GT 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: LG 27GP850-B 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($284.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1243.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-22 13:26 EDT-0400

apevia prestige is also an option for psu

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($94.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: *XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case: *Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Gigabyte GS27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Custom: 7500F ($131.00)
Total: $1261.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-22 14:18 EDT-0400

3 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

My thing was more that rn am4 is better value.

the 7500f costs as much as a 5600 non x (even less) right now, ddr5 is more expensive but am5 boards have gotten so cheap that the only real reason to go am4 for a new build is for budget builds (Like sub 600)

[Linuswasright]

Just now, filpo said:

7600 beats a 5800X3D, and the 5700x is nowhere close to that

Sorry I meant price to performance, but you’re right. But in tight budgets <~1400usd then am4 is kinda forces
 

1 minute ago, filpo said:

apevia prestige is also an option for psu

Isn’t it pretty unreliable?

 

1 minute ago, filpo said:

the 7500f costs as much as a 5600 non x (even less) right now, ddr5 is more expensive but am5 boards have gotten so cheap that the only real reason to go am4 for a new build is for budget builds (Like sub 600)

Omg I forgot about the 7500f. Completely agree, this is probably the best build here.

[filpo]

Just now, Linuswasright said:

Isn’t it pretty unreliable?

tier C is fine. I haven't heard any complaints. I think that's Apevia galaxy (would steer clear of that)

reviews make fun of it but to me it's perfectly decent

 

1 minute ago, Linuswasright said:

Omg I forgot about the 7500f. Completely agree, this is probably the best build here.

the thing is, they didn't release it on the mass market for some reason, so the only place I've seen it is aliexpress, it's great value, but isn't seen on the prices of pcpartpicker

[Linuswasright]

Just now, filpo said:

tier C is fine. I haven't heard any complaints. I think that's Apevia galaxy (would steer clear of that)

reviews make fun of it but to me it's perfectly decent

 

the thing is, they didn't release it on the mass market for some reason, so the only place I've seen it is aliexpress, it's great value, but isn't seen on the prices of pcpartpicker

It’s China only but I wish they marketed it in the us as a 7500 or smthn

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GJrXBL

7700x + 6800xt + 32gb 6000c32

 

microcenter 7700x bundle for 370$ covers the cpu + mobo + rams

 

used 6800xt should be ~300$, budget definitely fits a 6900xt/6950xt but not worth the extra 100$ those would cost

 

ssd is now an actually fast dram gen4, can definitely be upgraded to a 2tb like the mushkin tempest at 103$ (dram gen3) or a gm7000 at 125$ (dram gen4)

 

upgraded cooler to a phantom spirit evo since its a dual tower and will obviously destroy an old single tower cooler, it even looks nicer too

 

upgraded psu to an 850w gf1 which still retains a 10 year warranty

 

 

so now you have a much faster cpu on a platform that isnt dead which means you can drop in a new cpu without replacing the board and ram (ram will either do 7600 if m die or 10000+ if a die) alongside a much faster gpu with abit more vram, a faster ssd that you probably wont notice but it was only a few $ extra, and an 850w you wont have to upgrade for awhile unless 90 class cards suddenly require 1000w psus, all of this for cheaper than your original build (-monitor cost) which also means you might be able to get a better monitor now

[SunderedMountain]

4 hours ago, filpo said:

? 

7600 trades blows with a 580X3D and a 5700x is nowhere near that level of performance

apevia prestige is also an option for psu

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($94.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: *XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case: *Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Gigabyte GS27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Custom: 7500F ($131.00)
Total: $1261.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-22 14:18 EDT-0400

the 7500f costs as much as a 5600 non x (even less) right now, ddr5 is more expensive but am5 boards have gotten so cheap that the only real reason to go am4 for a new build is for budget builds (Like sub 600)

I considered AM5, but I've heard it still has kinks that need to be ironed out, so AM4 is a bit more reliable in that regard while also being more affordable. Is that not the case anymore? This build has been my first dive into the various PC parts, so assume I know very little on this.

[Linuswasright]

15 minutes ago, SunderedMountain said:

I considered AM5, but I've heard it still has kinks that need to be ironed out, so AM4 is a bit more reliable in that regard while also being more affordable. Is that not the case anymore? This build has been my first dive into the various PC parts, so assume I know very little on this.

Not the case since it released. Am5 is just as stable as am4 nowadays. With the 7500f you can get a decent system for cheapish

[SunderedMountain]

2 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

Not the case since it released. Am5 is just as stable as am4 nowadays. With the 7500f you can get a decent system for cheapish

In that case, do you know of any good AM5 motherboards with integrated wifi and Bluetooth?

[Linuswasright]

2 minutes ago, SunderedMountain said:

In that case, do you know of any good AM5 motherboards with integrated wifi and Bluetooth?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GZFyQP

Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard  (€158.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €158.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-23 00:34 CET+0100

Im pretty sure almost every mobo has a bluetooth

[SunderedMountain]

10 hours ago, filpo said:

? 

7600 trades blows with a 580X3D and a 5700x is nowhere near that level of performance

apevia prestige is also an option for psu

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($94.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Mushkin Helix-L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: *XFX Speedster QICK 319 Core Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($499.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case: *Deepcool CC560 V2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Gigabyte GS27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor  ($179.99 @ Newegg) 
Custom: 7500F ($131.00)
Total: $1261.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-22 14:18 EDT-0400

the 7500f costs as much as a 5600 non x (even less) right now, ddr5 is more expensive but am5 boards have gotten so cheap that the only real reason to go am4 for a new build is for budget builds (Like sub 600)

From what I've seen the 7500f performs slightly better than the 5700x, but also has fewer cores and threads. Could that pose a problem later down the line, or is that nothing to worry about?

[filpo]

9 hours ago, SunderedMountain said:

From what I've seen the 7500f performs slightly better than the 5700x

 

 

9 hours ago, SunderedMountain said:

Could that pose a problem later down the line, or is that nothing to worry about?

they're about the same in productivity and it's better in gaming so no, nothing to worry about

5700X is between 5800X and 5600X. 7500F is the 7600 without an igpu