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41 minutes ago, tkitch said:

just use a GPU Standoff.  problem solved lolol

 

As for wood?  The Fractal North is a great start, and other companies are looking to start using wood in more parts of the design soon.  It's pretty cool! 

Actually, it's not. It's got poor thermal conduction, so it'll contribute to higher temps.

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7 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Actually, it's not. It's got poor thermal conduction, so it'll contribute to higher temps.

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9 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Actually, it's not. It's got poor thermal conduction, so it'll contribute to higher temps.

Temps are neat, but looking at something in my house daily and liking it?

 

There's more to a PC than min/maxxing things.  

 

I know you know that, just saying.

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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Temps are neat, but looking at something in my house daily and liking it?

 

There's more to a PC than min/maxxing things.  

 

I know you know that, just saying.

Yep, but I still prefer performance over something I don't look at except when I need to do something to it.

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6 hours ago, RevGAM said:

Actually, it's not. It's got poor thermal conduction, so it'll contribute to higher temps.

Cases contribute next to zero in cooling via conduction.

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10 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

Cases contribute next to zero in cooling via conduction.

Not sure where you got that statistic from but I'm sure that's better than wood. 😛

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4 hours ago, RevGAM said:

Not sure where you got that statistic from but I'm sure that's better than wood. 😛

It's been tested and it's with margin of error. Think about it, the cpu and gpu make no direct contact with the case. Air is a terrible medium for transferring heat. 0.026w/mk. Any heat from the cpu needs to get to the case, if it needs to go through air, it's going to struggle.

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1 hour ago, Blue4130 said:

It's been tested and it's with margin of error. Think about it, the cpu and gpu make no direct contact with the case. Air is a terrible medium for transferring heat. 0.026w/mk. Any heat from the cpu needs to get to the case, if it needs to go through air, it's going to struggle.

That's fair. Also, if a hot component is near a case wall, the radiant heat will heat up that wall. A few months ago someone posted with that exact problem, which iirc was caused by the GC overheating due to poor air circulation. 

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15 hours ago, RevGAM said:

That's fair. Also, if a hot component is near a case wall, the radiant heat will heat up that wall. A few months ago someone posted with that exact problem, which iirc was caused by the GC overheating due to poor air circulation. 

The difference between it heating wood vs aluminum /steel/glass is going to be minimal. Also it really don't matter if it Heats it up. That heat will not really affect the gpu temp. The other guys problem would be from bad airflow, not case material.

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11 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

The difference between it heating wood vs aluminum /steel/glass is going to be minimal. Also it really don't matter if it Heats it up. That heat will not really affect the gpu temp. The other guys problem would be from bad airflow, not case material.

Now, which direction of heat flow do you want to discuss? So far, we've been discussing from components and through the case wall. Your most recent message starts with that and then does a reversal, of sorts. My point with mentioning that post wasn't because of airflow but because it was in direct response to your previous message about the CPU and GC. The referenced post demonstrated that it is possible for the GC to heat up the side of a metal case. 

 

Would wood do the same happen? Yes and no. It would warm up the wood but at a much slower rate, and the heat would dissipate at a much slower rate because of the insulative effect of the wood and its thickness. As a result, more heat would stay in the case, and even return to the case by radiation out of the wood.

 

As they say... out of the woods and into the fire.  😉 😆 

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3 hours ago, RevGAM said:

Now, which direction of heat flow do you want to discuss? So far, we've been discussing from components and through the case wall. Your most recent message starts with that and then does a reversal, of sorts. My point with mentioning that post wasn't because of airflow but because it was in direct response to your previous message about the CPU and GC. The referenced post demonstrated that it is possible for the GC to heat up the side of a metal case. 

 

Would wood do the same happen? Yes and no. It would warm up the wood but at a much slower rate, and the heat would dissipate at a much slower rate because of the insulative effect of the wood and its thickness. As a result, more heat would stay in the case, and even return to the case by radiation out of the wood.

 

As they say... out of the woods and into the fire.  😉 😆 

Sorry, I thought you were implying that the GPU was heating up the case wall and that was causing the gpu to overheat.

 

End point though is that case material plays next to zero roll in dissipating heat. 

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