cpu I Can't Overclock My CPU

[Torcher]

 I can't overclock my cpu(ryzen 5 1600). I tried 3.6ghz, 3.75ghz, 3.9ghz and 4ghz all with 1.4V override setting and none of them worked. And when I check HardwareInfo it works max 3.4ghz sometimes 3.2 and below. When I benchmark in cpu-z I get 2600 multicore 315 single core score.(Ryzen 5 1600's reference 3100 multicore). What should I do this time? Is there anything that I can do or do I must upgrade my cpu?

Note:I was using 1050ti and upgraded to 1070 but this time i have cpu bottleneck(while playing cs and other games cpu and gpu usages are %30-%40 percent maybe below). This is why I try to overclock.

I have: Ryzen 5 1600 + Msi gaming x gtx1070 + 8x2 3200Mhz Corsair Ram + 500W Psu

 

 

[Shimejii]

Your not going to be able to overclock a 1600 much at all. There is pretty much nothing you can do on that CPU to get it to be much better, otherwise it would have been a 1600x.

[YoungBlade]

What CPU cooler do you have? If it's the box cooler, it's likely not sufficient.

 

Also, what case do you have? It could be that your case is a hot box and even a decent cooler can't solve that.

[Torcher]

Just now, YoungBlade said:

What CPU cooler do you have? If it's the box cooler, it's likely not sufficient.

 

Also, what case do you have? It could be that your case is a hot box and even a decent cooler can't solve that.

I have stock cooler but it doesn't get too hot. I didn't see it getting hot because it never used higher than 3.39ghz even if I set voltage to 1.4v. I have coolermaaster mastebox 5 with no front mirror so fans are out sucking all the air.

[RONOTHAN##]

What motherboard and BIOS revision are you on? Early BIOSes especially had bugs that broke overclocking support on most 1st gen chips, so that might be what you're running into (the main bug would usually lower the frequency to 1.55GHz when trying to overclock though, not let you overclock at all). Also, what cooler are you using. 

 

4 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

There is pretty much nothing you can do on that CPU to get it to be much better, otherwise it would have been a 1600x.

Where'd you get that idea? It's pretty commonly known that manufacturers will just throw better chips in lower bins to fill them out, since otherwise they'd end up with a ton of 1800Xs and no where near enough lower end chips to fill out the product stack. 

[Torcher]

6 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Your not going to be able to overclock a 1600 much at all. There is pretty much nothing you can do on that CPU to get it to be much better, otherwise it would have been a 1600x.

people overclocks their r5 1600 12nm to 4ghz but even if I try to oc 3.7ghz mine 14nm it never sees higher than 3.4

[Torcher]

3 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

What motherboard and BIOS revision are you on? Early BIOSes especially had bugs that broke overclocking support on most 1st gen chips, so that might be what you're running into (the main bug would usually lower the frequency to 1.55GHz when trying to overclock though, not let you overclock at all). Also, what cooler are you using. 

 

Where'd you get that idea? It's pretty commonly known that manufacturers will just throw better chips in lower bins to fill them out, since otherwise they'd end up with a ton of 1800Xs and no where near enough lower end chips to fill out the product stack. 

I have Msi A320 PRO-VH PLUS. I recently update my bios to beta version and downgraded with Svet's bios flash tool (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/forum-uefi-shell-flash-tool-v1-35-for-msi-boards-✔.343010/page-19#post-1989630) Reason I used it I couldn't downgrade the bios version that older one from I have and that was the only way I could do it. I have ryzen 5's stock cooler but my box has good air circulation.

[Torcher]

11 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

What motherboard and BIOS revision are you on? Early BIOSes especially had bugs that broke overclocking support on most 1st gen chips, so that might be what you're running into (the main bug would usually lower the frequency to 1.55GHz when trying to overclock though, not let you overclock at all). Also, what cooler are you using. 

 

Where'd you get that idea? It's pretty commonly known that manufacturers will just throw better chips in lower bins to fill them out, since otherwise they'd end up with a ton of 1800Xs and no where near enough lower end chips to fill out the product stack. 

I downgraded to this verison*

[RONOTHAN##]

7 minutes ago, Torcher said:

I have Msi A320 PRO-VH PLUS

There's your problem. A- series motherboard do not support overclocking. 

[Torcher]

2 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

There's your problem. A- series motherboard do not support overclocking. 

But I can overclock my Ram and change Voltages given them and also cpu. When I change clocks I can see it as baseclock speed in windows task manager and hardware info but effective doesnt get there. 

[Torcher]

5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

There's your problem. A- series motherboard do not support overclocking. 

I searched it you're right that was the problem  

Thanks for solving. but is there any way to oc or its locked this way.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

9 minutes ago, Torcher said:

I searched it you're right that was the problem  

Thanks for solving. but is there any way to oc or its locked this way.

I mean you could try flashing a b350 bios on it but im not sure if thatd work or not

 

Think your mobo has bclk so you can oc via bclk, should be labled fch base clock

 

just beware that if you use an nvme m.2  it may not play nice with bclk so if you have an nvme m.2 i suggest making a temporary 50gb ish partition on it and installing windows on it so incase bclk is unstable you wont corrupt your main os, if its a sata m.2 or ssd you should be fine

 

about 110-115bclk seems to be acheivable for am4 as long as you set pcie to gen2 speed which shouldnt be  much of an issue to most gpus