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If your looking to optimize on budget, thry this:

  • get a 5700xt on ebay instead of the 6600. A little faster and a lot cheaper.  This one is usually abailable an the cooler is great, and it has a lot of white accenting to match that cooler.
  • the 5600 should be the aame as the 5700x in pretty much everything woth these GPUs.  You could swap the 5700x back in if you want.  
  • 2tb nvme for more space, and the 2tb was $80 instead of a $45 1tb
  • this case actually includes fans and has some room for airflow in the front.  I’ve built in it before and it’s great.
  • blue ram to match the blue LEDs.  It’s the same RAM and the same price
  • Much better version of that PSU.  The thermaltake smart are usually terrible, but the BM ones decent.  The BM3 has a new PCIE 5.0 connector for if you ever get a newer GPU.  If you want a much nicer PSU this is a decent deal right now, and could run any GPU you wanted if you upgraded later: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.69 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/ac R2.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($51.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($130.00) 
Case: DIYPC F2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($35.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $567.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Budget (including currency): <800

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mainly coding and paradox games

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I made a post before, but I’ve spent a while and used the suggestions to make it better. Is there anything I can do that’s better at a low increase in price or cheaper and the same level?
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QNmFs

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($169.00 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.69 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/ac R2.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($51.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Challenger D Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card  ($189.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: SAMA Sama-S88-BK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($38.95 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($41.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $617.57

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37 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

Total: $617.57

38 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

Budget (including currency): <800

So you still prefer as low as possible or do you dont mind if we go aggressively at 800$+5%? We can get a lot of juice with 840-850 range.

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If your looking to optimize on budget, thry this:

  • get a 5700xt on ebay instead of the 6600. A little faster and a lot cheaper.  This one is usually abailable an the cooler is great, and it has a lot of white accenting to match that cooler.
  • the 5600 should be the aame as the 5700x in pretty much everything woth these GPUs.  You could swap the 5700x back in if you want.  
  • 2tb nvme for more space, and the 2tb was $80 instead of a $45 1tb
  • this case actually includes fans and has some room for airflow in the front.  I’ve built in it before and it’s great.
  • blue ram to match the blue LEDs.  It’s the same RAM and the same price
  • Much better version of that PSU.  The thermaltake smart are usually terrible, but the BM ones decent.  The BM3 has a new PCIE 5.0 connector for if you ever get a newer GPU.  If you want a much nicer PSU this is a decent deal right now, and could run any GPU you wanted if you upgraded later: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.69 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/ac R2.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($51.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($130.00) 
Case: DIYPC F2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($35.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $567.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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17 hours ago, SorryBella said:

So you still prefer as low as possible or do you dont mind if we go aggressively at 800$+5%? We can get a lot of juice with 840-850 range.

Sorry, just woke up
I think try to hold it in mid 700 or less is good, but the lower you can go with it still being a decent increase in power is the goal. Thanks for help, I’ve been running in circles for the last day or two 

 

had to edit cause my budget went down a bit

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12 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

If your looking to optimize on budget, thry this:

  • get a 5700xt on ebay instead of the 6600. A little faster and a lot cheaper.  This one is usually abailable an the cooler is great, and it has a lot of white accenting to match that cooler.
  • the 5600 should be the aame as the 5700x in pretty much everything woth these GPUs.  You could swap the 5700x back in if you want.  
  • 2tb nvme for more space, and the 2tb was $80 instead of a $45 1tb
  • this case actually includes fans and has some room for airflow in the front.  I’ve built in it before and it’s great.
  • blue ram to match the blue LEDs.  It’s the same RAM and the same price
  • Much better version of that PSU.  The thermaltake smart are usually terrible, but the BM ones decent.  The BM3 has a new PCIE 5.0 connector for if you ever get a newer GPU.  If you want a much nicer PSU this is a decent deal right now, and could run any GPU you wanted if you upgraded later: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4XsV3C/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn505

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($19.69 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/ac R2.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($51.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Sapphire NITRO+ Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($130.00) 
Case: DIYPC F2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($35.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart BM3 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $567.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Idk where you’re getting the number for the gpu, when I look it’s round ~200 or 160/180 dollars (even on eBay)

 

case and power supply look good
 

i don’t really have a use for the extra terabyte, the games I play are tiny and the only other thing I do is code

 

im going to sty with the 7 because it’s better by like a decent margin

 

thbj for helping! 🙂

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($159.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($42.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $840.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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  • 2014 Build --> FX 8350 4.7GHz {} ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer {} Reference GTX 980 4GB {} 2x4GB 1866MHz HyperX {} Seagate 2TB 7200rpm {} 840 EVO 120GB {} XFX PRO850W {} Noctua NH D14 {} Fractal Define R4 White Windowed
  • 2018 Build --> Ryzen 7 2700X {} ASRock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 {} Gigabyte RTX 2070 8GB {} 2x8GB HX Fury 3200MHz {} Toshiba P300 2TB {} Kingston 480GB A1000 {} Corsair RM750W {} Enermax LIQMAX II 240 {} Fractal Focus G
  • 2021 Build --> Ryzen 9 5900X {} ASUS ROG Strix X570-F GAMING {} ASUS GeForce RTX 3080Ti ROG STRIX OC {} Gigabyte AORUS RGB DDR4 32GB {} Kingston KC2500 M.2 2280 NVMe 2TB {} Seasonic FOCUS GX-1000 {} ASUS ROG Ryujin 240 AIO {} NYXT H710i
  • Laptop --> ASUS ROG STRIX G713RS {} Ryzen 9 6900HX {} 32GB DDR5 {} RTX 3080 {} 1TB NVMe {} Win 11 Home
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36 minutes ago, greeatzy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($159.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($42.99 @ Best Buy) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $840.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Sorry I’m new to pc building so I’m wondering a couple things that might be super obvious:

Why’d you decrease the ram?

Why the i5 over the Ryen 7?

From what I got from the other guys in this thread and the gpu I had (forgor the chip) is basically equivalent without having to cut costs on other stuff

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22 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

Sorry I’m new to pc building so I’m wondering a couple things that might be super obvious:

Why’d you decrease the ram?

Why the i5 over the Ryen 7?

From what I got from the other guys in this thread and the gpu I had (forgor the chip) is basically equivalent without having to cut costs on other stuff

Here is with 32GB ram build. 

12600KF is basically the same as 5700X in my opinion. 12600KF is a little bit cheaper and thats why I chose it.

6650 XT is now on a good price and its basically overclocked 6600 XT which will give you more performance

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($159.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z690-A WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($51.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial P3 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($54.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $849.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 08:33 EST-0500

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  • 2014 Build --> FX 8350 4.7GHz {} ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer {} Reference GTX 980 4GB {} 2x4GB 1866MHz HyperX {} Seagate 2TB 7200rpm {} 840 EVO 120GB {} XFX PRO850W {} Noctua NH D14 {} Fractal Define R4 White Windowed
  • 2018 Build --> Ryzen 7 2700X {} ASRock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 {} Gigabyte RTX 2070 8GB {} 2x8GB HX Fury 3200MHz {} Toshiba P300 2TB {} Kingston 480GB A1000 {} Corsair RM750W {} Enermax LIQMAX II 240 {} Fractal Focus G
  • 2021 Build --> Ryzen 9 5900X {} ASUS ROG Strix X570-F GAMING {} ASUS GeForce RTX 3080Ti ROG STRIX OC {} Gigabyte AORUS RGB DDR4 32GB {} Kingston KC2500 M.2 2280 NVMe 2TB {} Seasonic FOCUS GX-1000 {} ASUS ROG Ryujin 240 AIO {} NYXT H710i
  • Laptop --> ASUS ROG STRIX G713RS {} Ryzen 9 6900HX {} 32GB DDR5 {} RTX 3080 {} 1TB NVMe {} Win 11 Home
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4 hours ago, Linuswasright said:

Idk where you’re getting the number for the gpu, when I look it’s round ~200 or 160/180 dollars (even on eBay)

 

case and power supply look good
 

i don’t really have a use for the extra terabyte, the games I play are tiny and the only other thing I do is code

 

im going to sty with the 7 because it’s better by like a decent margin

 

thbj for helping! 🙂

The 5700xts are are about $150 right now on ebay, so yeah they went up a bit.

 

the 7 is better in that it has 2 more cores, but IDK what you’re gona do that’ll use them.  Anything outside of gaming will be done flawlessly on a theead or two, and most games still aren’t running any faster on 8 cores than 6 (you’ll see small improvements only because of more cache, but usually the game will be GPU bound anyway, so it’ll never actually happen).

 

2 hours ago, greeatzy said:

12600KF is basically the same as 5700X in my opinion. 12600KF is a little bit cheaper and thats why I chose it.

The 12600kf seems quite a bit faster in almost every game.  I only went with the 5600 in my build because that b450mac is only $60, and a wifi board worth using for the 12600kf is like $130.  But with most GPUs for this budget the difference won’t matter.

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1 hour ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

The 5700xts are are about $150 right now on ebay, so yeah they went up a bit.

 

the 7 is better in that it has 2 more cores, but IDK what you’re gona do that’ll use them.  Anything outside of gaming will be done flawlessly on a theead or two, and most games still aren’t running any faster on 8 cores than 6 (you’ll see small improvements only because of more cache, but usually the game will be GPU bound anyway, so it’ll never actually happen).

 

The 12600kf seems quite a bit faster in almost every game.  I only went with the 5600 in my build because that b450mac is only $60, and a wifi board worth using for the 12600kf is like $130.  But with most GPUs for this budget the difference won’t matter.

I do a decent bit of ai coding, so I’m fine with the 5700x costing a bit more if it helps with training speed, n the goal for this guy is to future proof him a bit, and i know they’ll use the cores eventually. Thank for taking the time and writing it out though, it’s really helpful to know! 
 

edit: totally agree on the motherboard, the i5 looks cheaper but factoring in everything it costs more in total

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3 minutes ago, Linuswasright said:

I do a decent bit of ai coding, so I’m fine with the 5700x costing a bit more if it helps with training speed, n the goal for this guy is to future proof him a bit, and i know they’ll use the cores eventually. Thank for taking the time and writing it out though, it’s really helpful to know! 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($159.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($51.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.90 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Total: $846.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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4 hours ago, greeatzy said:

Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.00 @ B&H) 

considering a cc560 is the same price I wouldn't get this

Message me on discord (bread8669) for more help 

 

Current parts list: 

CPU: R5 5600 CPU Cooler: Stock

Mobo: Asrock B550M-ITX/ac

RAM: Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3200mhz Cl16

SSD: P5 Plus 500GB Secondary SSD: Kingston A400 960GB

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 Gaming X

Fans: 1x Noctua NF-P12 Redux, 1x Arctic P12, 1x Corsair LL120

PSU: NZXT SP-650M SFX-L PSU from H1

Monitor: Samsung WQHD 34 inch and 43 inch TV

Mouse: Logitech G203

Keyboard: Rii membrane keyboard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

Damn this space can fit a 4090 (just kidding)

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6 minutes ago, filpo said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($159.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($33.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($51.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($45.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX6700XT CLD 12G Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card  ($299.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.90 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Total: $846.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-11-30 13:19 EST-0500

considering a cc560 is the same price I wouldn't get this

I think I’m going to stay around with what I have now, but it looks great if I could afford it lol! Sorry about the budget change, something kinda last minute happenedd

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