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Previously on this forum, I presented a problem I'd been having regarding games crashing.

In the end it is my faulty Gigabyte Windforce edition that has been ruled out to be the culprit.

Let's keep this simple.

Months ago I bought a 780ti, GIGABYTE Windforce edition. I bought it because I thought the superior cooling would really help performance.

However, it is also "Factory overclocked" to 1020mhz.

Long story short, it is unstable. It crashes all of my games, be it Battlefield 4, Black flag, or even Star wars: Republic Commando from 2005!

The question is simple, what do I do to replace it? What brand would be the most reliable?

I am not a fan of overclocking. My PC specs are:

i7 4770k

Dark Rock 3 cooler.

16gb of Corsair Vengeance RAM at 1866mhz, CAS 9.

Z87-G65 MSI gaming Motherboard.

250gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD.

2tb HDD.

CS750M Corsair PSU.

Phantom 410 Black and Orange case.

I am aware I can OC, but upon doing so, I got a blue screen for using "OC Genie" so I have stayed away from it ever since. I also don't see a point in subjecting my parts to instability for a lousy 10-20 fps increase.

I am thinking of getting the STOCK BENCHMARK version of the 780ti. But which company sells that specifically? I cannot find one that isn't bloody superclocked.

EVGA? The Classified edition? ASUS' version? What would make a suitable, but most importantly... RELIABLE replacement for my faulty Windforce?

However, it is worth considering, was I just unlucky? Are factory overclocks normally okay and provide better performance for the price? Or should I just get a stock? It appears that the only difference between a factory overclock and stock is roughly 7-12 FPS difference. That's not even a noticeable difference, using a 60hz screen and all.

Thank you for any help provided.

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Call them ask them see what they say then RMA  

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only a GTX 1080, just a single 1080, where my glorious PC once stood....

For that is all I need, For the Emperor of Man, Jen-Hsun Huang, protects. We march for Nvidia, and we shall know no fear!

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RMA it, if you think that a newly bought card would be unstable normally, you are wrong.

But this isn't a normal situation. Every error I get relates to the GPU, every other part in my computer is working fine, taking into consideration it's only 6 days old.

I am going to RMA, that's why I'm asking for a suitable opinion regarding a replacement.

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But this isn't a normal situation. Every error I get relates to the GPU, every other part in my computer is working fine, taking into consideration it's only 6 days old.

I am going to RMA, that's why I'm asking for a suitable opinion regarding a replacement.

the same card from them would be fine, its a good cooler, tho i would go for the MSI card or a ref card depending on chassis. 

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the same card from them would be fine, its a good cooler, tho i would go for the MSI card or a ref card depending on chassis. 

How come? Why would I buy a Gigabyte Wind-force again if the one I have was faulty? Unless that relates to the fact that I could have been just extremely unlucky and bought a faulty model.

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an MSI card would be a good replacement

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you probably got unlucky just rma it a get another and see if the problem persists, if it does its software or something else

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Why MSI specifically?

the cards from my experience has good cooling, not even good, it's absolutely amazing. and plus, there is an overclocking potential, which i like.

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you probably got unlucky just rma it a get another and see if the problem persists, if it does its software or something else

It would be horrific if the problem persisted, I've tried everything. It surely wouldn't be software. I had this card in my old computer, I simply moved it over and the problem persisted then. So it HAS to be my specific card right now. If it carried on? Then damn. What on earth would it be?

Hence why I want to stay away from a Gigabyte, I'd rather get another reliable brand. What would you suggest? Asus? MSI? EVGA? 

Also, my windforce may be awfully faulty, but at least it could cool well. It never went past 60 degrees under load. What temps would I expect out of another version?

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How come? Why would I buy a Gigabyte Wind-force again if the one I have was faulty? Unless that relates to the fact that I could have been just extremely unlucky and bought a faulty model.

 

...you think they would still be selling a card for over a year if they ALL were broken? you got a bad card thats all.

 

and the MSI because its the most silent.

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the cards from my experience has good cooling, not even good, it's absolutely amazing. and plus, there is an overclocking potential, which i like.

As you know, I don't favour overclocking. Instability of hardware certainly isn't a worthy trade off for an increase of roughly 7-12 frames. It's like selling a house for a damn lollipop. Terrible trade off.

What would you suggest for someone who doesn't want to OC?

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...you think they would still be selling a card for over a year if they ALL were broken? you got a bad card thats all.

 

and the MSI because its the most silent.

Heh, don't make me sound too dumb ;)

Alright, MSI is certainly a consideration now, especially considering that I have an MSI Mobo to match.

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As you know, I don't favour overclocking. Instability of hardware certainly isn't a worthy trade off for an increase of roughly 7-12 frames. It's like selling a house for a damn lollipop. Terrible trade off.

What would you suggest for someone who doesn't want to OC?

the MSI is still a good card even if you're not overclocking. it's a quiet and cool card. unless you wanna opt to the asus card which basically performs the same in terms of cooling and noise.

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An Asus Direct Cu ii 780 ti OC would be good, really quiet, low temps.

Really like the design of it.

The OC part puts me off. Past experience wades me away. Why an OC version? All my experience regarding OC'ing has resulted in Blue screens and instability, and I ensured I was doing it properly. Maybe it's just bad luck, but I'd rather stay away. The ultimate reward from OC'ing only seems like a tiny increase of performance, 7-12 frames or maybe a second or so faster response time, but trading your hardware's lifespan and stability for it? Seems like a very shady deal to me.

But if I am just talking out of my bawtum, please correct me. Have I just been unlucky? Would a factory OC'd card be more worth it than a stock?

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The OC part puts me off. Past experience wades me away. Why an OC version? All my experience regarding OC'ing has resulted in Blue screens and instability, and I ensured I was doing it properly. Maybe it's just bad luck, but I'd rather stay away. The ultimate reward from OC'ing only seems like a tiny increase of performance, 7-12 frames or maybe a second or so faster response time, but trading your hardware's lifespan and stability for it? Seems like a very shady deal to me.

But if I am just talking out of my bawtum, please correct me. Have I just been unlucky? Would a factory OC'd card be more worth it than a stock?

The ASUS OC cards are thoroughly tested to ensure high stability and compatibility

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The ASUS OC cards are thoroughly tested to ensure high stability and compatibility

Ah, I see. Well then, that rules it down to two final choices.

MSI, or ASUS.

I guess that's up to me to decide. But thank you for your input and help. You help me rest.

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I would go for ASUS. 

I currently have an ASUS DirectCU II OC 780 and it's fantastic.

How come? Why would I buy a Gigabyte Wind-force again if the one I have was faulty? Unless that relates to the fact that I could have been just extremely unlucky and bought a faulty model.

When you RMA it they will usually replace the card with a new one or repair it,

if you can get your money back you're free to chose which card you want to buy

next. Depending on the size of your case and the dimensions installing the Asus

DCUII can be a nightmare. I have a DCII and a reference 780 in my rig (900D case)

and the DCII was very frustrating, so much so that I bought a second one because

I hate myself.

I've ordered a second DCII because I already had one if I could go back I would

probably pick an EVGA ACX. Why? A good performing card with a reference PCB

design, amazing warranty and ease of installation in worth every penny.

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I notice the MSI is £480 as opposed to the stock card at £510, and the ASUS varient going up to £530. Why is the MSI one so much cheaper? Is it lower quality in a sense? Or did MSI get damn generous?

it's just how the market is, just because something is cheaper doesnt mean lower quality, i think it's just how they're selling it

"Sulit" (adj.) something that is worth it

i7 8700K 4.8Ghz delidded / Corsair H100i V2 / Asus Strix Z370-F / G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3200 / EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q

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