CPU Cooler for Ryzen 9 5900X?

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Upgrading GPU and CPU:

 

Strix RX480 8GB OC > > > TUF RX7800XT

Ryzen 7 2700X > > > Ryzen 9 5900X 

16GB DDR4 > > > 32GB DDR4 (Kingston Fury) (x2 sticks)

 

Looking for a good cooler (without breaking the budget) for the Ryzen 9 5900X, currently using an LC Power LC-CC-95 for the Ryzen 7 2700X and it's been doing a good job for it's price (35-41C idle > 50-55C gaming > 75-86C 3D rendering, 3D modelling, 2D graphics...), but it's probably not a good choice for a 5900X under heavy workload. 

 

I'm interested in opinions and/or suggestions/recommendations, I've picked out a few coolers that fit my budget. Looking at tests even on Ryzen 7000 series the temps seem ok , but I'm also interested in the quality and reliability of these coolers (a broken cooler won't cool ). Current case is a Fractal Design Define R4 (2x 140mm front intake, 1x 120mm rear exhaust, 1x 120mm floor intake). 

 

(with current lowest prices)

 

- THERMALRIGHT Peerless Assassin 120 SE 

  - 43 euros

 

- CoolerMaster Masterair Ma612 Stealth

  - 54 euros

 

- Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 Se Argb

  - 56 euros

 

- DEEPCOOL AK620 black

  - 72 euros

 

- BE QUIET! Dark Rock Pro 4

  - 74 euros

 

Peerless Assassin 120 SE keeps good temps in some tests and it's the most budget friendly in the list, but if I can't rely on it's quality to survive the 5900X during heavy work it's probably worth paying more for one that can handle it. I'm also not a fan of cheap AIO's so it's why I'm mostly looking into air coolers, unless there's a reliable and overall good AIO in this price range.

 

 

Thank you in advance

[191x7]

7 minutes ago, -X- said:

Upgrading GPU and CPU:

 

Strix RX480 8GB OC > > > TUF RX7800XT

Ryzen 7 2700X > > > Ryzen 9 5900X 

16GB DDR4 > > > 32GB DDR4 (Kingston Fury) (x2 sticks)

 

Looking for a good cooler (without breaking the budget) for the Ryzen 9 5900X, currently using an LC Power LC-CC-95 for the Ryzen 7 2700X and it's been doing a good job for it's price (35-41C idle > 50-55C gaming > 75-86C 3D rendering, 3D modelling, 2D graphics...), but it's probably not a good choice for a 5900X under heavy workload. 

 

I'm interested in opinions and/or suggestions/recommendations, I've picked out a few coolers that fit my budget. Looking at tests even on Ryzen 7000 series the temps seem ok , but I'm also interested in the quality and reliability of these coolers (a broken cooler won't cool ). Current case is a Fractal Design Define R4 (2x 140mm front intake, 1x 120mm rear exhaust, 1x 120mm floor intake). 

 

(with current lowest prices)

 

- THERMALRIGHT Peerless Assassin 120 SE 

  - 43 euros

 

- CoolerMaster Masterair Ma612 Stealth

  - 54 euros

 

- Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 Se Argb

  - 56 euros

 

- DEEPCOOL AK620 black

  - 72 euros

 

- BE QUIET! Dark Rock Pro 4

  - 74 euros

 

Peerless Assassin 120 SE keeps good temps in some tests and it's the most budget friendly in the list, but if I can't rely on it's quality to survive the 5900X during heavy work it's probably worth paying more for one that can handle it. I'm also not a fan of cheap AIO's so it's why I'm mostly looking into air coolers, unless there's a reliable and overall good AIO in this price range.

 

 

Thank you in advance

Have you already purchased the 5900X?

 

I am asking because it's the most power-hungry AM4 CPU and the warmest AM4 CPU in one. The motherboard's VRM might be too weak for it.

To me, the 5700X seems like an ideal companion for your motherboard.

[freeagent]

PS120SE is the best cooler on your list for 5900X.

[venomtail]

3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Have you already purchased the 5900X?

 

I am asking because it's the most power-hungry AM4 CPU and the warmest AM4 CPU in one. The motherboard's VRM might be too weak for it.

To me, the 5700X seems like an ideal companion for your motherboard.

It's an Asus TUF with a massive heatsink so it's marketable better. It'll be fine. By comparison my X470I is flimsy and 5800X3D's fine on it, bit cooler but still a hot chip.

[freeagent]

My 5800X3D is not a hot chip at all. I can cool it on all of my Thermalright coolers with no fan installed on it. With PBO, 5900X can do over 250w PPT.. 5950X can do a little more.. that is my unicorn, I will have one some day

[191x7]

6 minutes ago, venomtail said:

It's an Asus TUF with a massive heatsink so it's marketable better. It'll be fine. By comparison my X470I is flimsy and 5800X3D's fine on it, bit cooler but still a hot chip.

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

26 minutes ago, -X- said:

THERMALRIGHT Peerless Assassin 120 SE 

  - 43 euros

Hands down

Only measures of quality in a cooler is cooling performance and noise

 

If you are just gaming the 5800x3d is a much better cpu than the 5900x

[adm0n]

I second the Peerless Assassin as well. If you are unsure about your Motherboard being adequate, you can also play around with the PBO settings, to make the chip a bit more efficient.

[freeagent]

Have a look at my PPT, TDC, and EDC..

 

Best be having a good VRM

3 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Hands down

Only measures of quality in a cooler is cooling performance and noise

 

If you are just gaming the 5800x3d is a much better cpu than the 5900x

I have all of Thermalrights top end coolers, PS120SE is the better cooler. Abd 58X3D is only better at low resolutions. Keep in mind, every review you see about gaming benchmarks are done on a stock CPU.. 5900X has a lot of breathing room in it.

[venomtail]

18 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

 

 

Again, and I have X470I, smaller VRM cooler and I'm still running fine. That ATX TUF has a chonkier one so it'll still likely be fine. Slightly chonkier VRM with a slightly hotter CPU it'll likely get the same result as I do.

 

Sure on a benchmark they're not the best but in the real world they meet the real world demands.

 

I don't think it's the end of the world. Spending another $200 on a new motherboard won't give them such a performance boost that they'll feels their extra $200 spent well. Sleep in the bed that's been made.

 

Also post says using stock downdraft cooler. Yea, hot air from fins blowing down on VRM's isn't helping unlike a normal cooler that OP would have.

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33 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Have you already purchased the 5900X?

 

I am asking because it's the most power-hungry AM4 CPU and the warmest AM4 CPU in one. The motherboard's VRM might be too weak for it.

To me, the 5700X seems like an ideal companion for your motherboard.

 

17 minutes ago, venomtail said:

Again, and I have X470I, smaller VRM cooler and I'm still running fine. That ATX TUF has a chonkier one so it'll still likely be fine. Slightly chonkier VRM with a slightly hotter CPU it'll likely get the same result as I do.

 

Sure on a benchmark they're not the best but in the real world they meet the real world demands.

 

I don't think it's the end of the world. Spending another $200 on a new motherboard won't give them such a performance boost that they'll feels their extra $200 spent well. Sleep in the bed that's been made.

 

Also post says using stock downdraft cooler. Yea, hot air from fins blowing down on VRM's isn't helping unlike a normal cooler that OP would have.

Not yet, but it is what I'm set on upgrading to. The 5950X cost a lot more than the performance gain compared to 5900X while the 5700X/5800X are noticeably lower in performance for "professional" use (which is the main reason I'm upgrading). True this isn't something I considered as I thought the TUF B450 can handle it given the supposedly better VRMs and the heatsinks it has, paired with a common vertical cooler instead of a mobo facing one like the stock. 

 

Also, I don't plan on OCing the 5900X. I'd definitely be looking into better cooling and probably an X570, but currently I wanted a solid upgrade for work without stretching the budget, otherwise I would be looking into a complete upgrade to 7900X/7950X. 

 

27 minutes ago, adm0n said:

I second the Peerless Assassin as well. If you are unsure about your Motherboard being adequate, you can also play around with the PBO settings, to make the chip a bit more efficient.

 

31 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Hands down

Only measures of quality in a cooler is cooling performance and noise

 

If you are just gaming the 5800x3d is a much better cpu than the 5900x

 

46 minutes ago, freeagent said:

PS120SE is the best cooler on your list for 5900X.

So the PS120SE is the best choice with PA120SE after it, if so I'll probably go for PS120SE (unless they're out of stock )

[adm0n]

6 minutes ago, -X- said:

Also, I don't plan on OCing the 5900X. I'd definitely be looking into better cooling and probably an X570, but currently I wanted a solid upgrade for work without stretching the budget, otherwise I would be looking into a complete upgrade to 7900X/7950X. 

Your Motherboard is totally fine, don't worry about it. The only reason to upgrade would be, if you need the features of a different board. If you leave the CPU as is, it will draw at most 140W. The VRM of the TUF can easily handle that.

 

If you often run the CPU at full utilization, they will - however - deteriorate faster than if you had a less power hungry chip. That being said, motherboards usually last longer than a CPU is usually useful for.

So I'd recommend you stick with your current board. No reason to spend a lot of money, especially since the platform is dead already.

[191x7]

13 minutes ago, -X- said:

 

Not yet, but it is what I'm set on upgrading to. The 5950X cost a lot more than the performance gain compared to 5900X while the 5700X/5800X are noticeably lower in performance for "professional" use (which is the main reason I'm upgrading). True this isn't something I considered as I thought the TUF B450 can handle it given the supposedly better VRMs and the heatsinks it has, paired with a common vertical cooler instead of a mobo facing one like the stock. 

 

Also, I don't plan on OCing the 5900X. I'd definitely be looking into better cooling and probably an X570, but currently I wanted a solid upgrade for work without stretching the budget, otherwise I would be looking into a complete upgrade to 7900X/7950X. 

 

 

 

So the PS120SE is the best choice with PA120SE after it, if so I'll probably go for PS120SE (unless they're out of stock )

If you decide on the 5900X to use on the B450 board, I would advise using a cooler that can provide airflow over the VRM heatsinks.

Or adding a fan or two to blow on the VRM heatsink.

[RevGAM]

All of those coolers are really great choices. The PS is better than the PA, and can handle higher temps, too. The bq is probably the quietest. Possibly the best is the AK620, but you need to check reviews for AMD, or buy an offset mounting frame for the CPU.

 

Are you aware that some creators have problems with AMD and their creative software?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 hour ago, freeagent said:

Keep in mind, every review you see about gaming benchmarks are done on a stock CPU.. 5900X has a lot of breathing room in it.

What kinda oc have you done on your chip? And how much perf gain without taking into account ram oc?

 

All i know is zen3 can do around 4.7-4.8ghz allcore with ~1.35-1.4v

 

5800x3d is ocable via bclk and i think msi kombo strike can set bclk to 107 to oc the 5800x3d iirc

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30 minutes ago, adm0n said:

Your Motherboard is totally fine, don't worry about it. The only reason to upgrade would be, if you need the features of a different board. If you leave the CPU as is, it will draw at most 140W. The VRM of the TUF can easily handle that.

 

If you often run the CPU at full utilization, they will - however - deteriorate faster than if you had a less power hungry chip. That being said, motherboards usually last longer than a CPU is usually useful for.

So I'd recommend you stick with your current board. No reason to spend a lot of money, especially since the platform is dead already.

That's what confused me, I read that the 5900X can go up to around 142W stock so I didn't give it a second thought with the TUF B450. I'm sure OC'ed drawing up to 200+W would fry the board quickly. 

34 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

If you decide on the 5900X to use on the B450 board, I would advise using a cooler that can provide airflow over the VRM heatsinks.

Or adding a fan or two to blow on the VRM heatsink.

I do have room for 2x 140mm above the board, though it would create a lot of pressure keeping the air in since only one 120mm would be an exhaust in the rear. Unless the rear top fan was exhaust and forward top was intake and maybe somewhat follow the airflow of the CPU fans pushing rearward, or it's just a stupid idea 

 

39 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

All of those coolers are really great choices. The PS is better than the PA, and can handle higher temps, too. The bq is probably the quietest. Possibly the best is the AK620, but you need to check reviews for AMD, or buy an offset mounting frame for the CPU.

 

Are you aware that some creators have problems with AMD and their creative software?

Aren't the 7000 Ryzen chips with the offset cores? Or did I miss something on the 5900X? 

[freeagent]

51 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

All i know is zen3 can do around 4.7-4.8ghz allcore with ~1.35-1.4v

Try that with a 5900X and let me know how it goes

 

53 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

What kinda oc have you done on your chip?

 

Did you look at the screenshot I posted? If not better brush up on your detective skills

 

That screen was just PBO. I pushed 4900 all core. Nothing over 4550 was stable in serious tests. My 5600X can do 4700 stable in everything. It to has been to 4900.

[adm0n]

19 minutes ago, -X- said:

That's what confused me, I read that the 5900X can go up to around 142W stock so I didn't give it a second thought with the TUF B450. I'm sure OC'ed drawing up to 200+W would fry the board quickly. 

I'm also a bit confused by the sentiment. But unless someone can actually back up their claims, I wouldn't pay it too much mind, at least if you aren't totally toasting the inside of your case.

 

I can't even find any info on how many VRM phases the board has, but on one picture it shows 10 chokes. If it is a 10 Phase design, you'll have around 14A on each phase at around 1V. If we assume 90% efficiency (which would be pretty bad), you'd have around 14W of heat dissipating over the entire surface area of the heat sink. If there is any air movement over the heat sink, they should be totally fine. And if the air is almost standing, I still wouldn't expect them to go above 85C. (The last part is purely speculation though)

[RevGAM]

1 hour ago, -X- said:

Aren't the 7000 Ryzen chips with the offset cores? Or did I miss something on the 5900X? 

Iirc, both. Could be wrong so smack me if so. 

[freeagent]

There is nothing in the center of the IHS on an AM4 part, so yes everything is offset.

 

To be real here for a minute, a 5900X with no OC is no harder to cool than any other AM4 part imo.

[RevGAM]

4 minutes ago, freeagent said:

There is nothing in the center of the IHS on an AM4 part, so yes everything is offset.

 

To be real here for a minute, a 5900X with no OC is no harder to cool than any other AM4 part imo.

Whew!