13700 Cooling

[BearGuy58]

hi there, wanna ask something i'm planning to buy new AIO for my 13700 soon...
it idle on 40°C-ish and last time i tried to run cinebench²⁰²⁴, it reach 100°C on multicore test for 10mins

i'm using id cooling Zoomflow 240 now and i have NZXT Kraken 280 in mind.
My question is, is it gonna make any different? or is it just be the same?
oh i'm using phanteks p360x as my case.

 

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[jaslion]

No cooling will help you. Your case is simply too restrictive to have enough airflow.

 

Top mounting you aio as intake should help a lot with getting enough air to cool and that low end aio should potentially be fine then

 

A better cooler wont help as is as there is not airflow due to the very restrictive front panel

 

[Alex Atkin UK]

21 minutes ago, BearGuy58 said:

hi there, wanna ask something i'm planning to buy new AIO for my 13700 soon...
it idle on 40°C-ish and last time i tried to run cinebench²⁰²⁴, it reach 100°C on multicore test for 10mins

i'm using id cooling Zoomflow 240 now and i have NZXT Kraken 280 in mind.
My question is, is it gonna make any different? or is it just be the same?
oh i'm using phanteks p360x as my case.

 

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I'd check to make sure all your fans aren't exhausting here.  It should be pulling air in through the radiator.

[NorKris]

[BearGuy58]

3 hours ago, jaslion said:

No cooling will help you. Your case is simply too restrictive to have enough airflow.

 

Top mounting you aio as intake should help a lot with getting enough air to cool and that low end aio should potentially be fine then

 

A better cooler wont help as is as there is not airflow due to the very restrictive front panel

 

cant mount the rad on top, as you can see the top fan nearly touch the vrm heatsink
 

3 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

I'd check to make sure all your fans aren't exhausting here.  It should be pulling air in through the radiator.

i'm pulling air through front panel with the rad

so it'll make no diferent unless i change the case?

[TPCEA]

Ideally a larger case AND AIO. 

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, BearGuy58 said:

cant mount the rad on top, as you can see the top fan nearly touch the vrm heatsink
 

i'm pulling air through front panel with the rad

so it'll make no diferent unless i change the case?

Basically. Will the aio cool the cpu properly in a better case? Debateable. But will any cooler cool that cpu in that case? Simply a no.

 

Quite literally the phanteks p360a or p400a or p300a are all mesh and handle that just fine.

 

A good test would be to just rip the front panel off and run the pc without. Good chance that either:

A. cpu runs faster because better cooler thus hotter and cooler still can't keep up

B. cpu runs the same but cooler can keep up

C. Cpu barely runs faster and cooler can't keep up

D. everything works out fine

[NorKris]

3 hours ago, BearGuy58 said:

so it'll make no diferent unless i change the case?

Look at the pic lol 

[NorKris]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

Basically. Will the aio cool the cpu properly in a better case? Debateable.

where is it getting the air from now?  ask the guy with the helm lol  

[jaslion]

Just now, NorKris said:

where is it getting the air from now?  ask the guy with the helm lol  

The current one btw. It's quite low end. May do the trick tho

[NorKris]

Just now, jaslion said:

The current one btw. It's quite low end. May do the trick tho

ye but a 240 on 13700  and gaming is  more than fine

 

"240-Cant breathe edition "  not so nice 

[BearGuy58]

5 hours ago, jaslion said:

Basically. Will the aio cool the cpu properly in a better case? Debateable. But will any cooler cool that cpu in that case? Simply a no.

 

Quite literally the phanteks p360a or p400a or p300a are all mesh and handle that just fine.

 

A good test would be to just rip the front panel off and run the pc without. Good chance that either:

A. cpu runs faster because better cooler thus hotter and cooler still can't keep up

B. cpu runs the same but cooler can keep up

C. Cpu barely runs faster and cooler can't keep up

D. everything works out fine

Thanks for properly explaining it.

well, since you point out the case might be the prob, so i'm thinking to switch it with Hyte Y60. Then, will my current AIO will works just fine? or do i still need to change to 280 or 360 rad?

 

3 hours ago, NorKris said:

where is it getting the air from now?  ask the guy with the helm lol  

you're not helping at all. I'm not good with cooling system and all, that's why i ask here hoping for better answer. But thanks for commenting anyway.

[NorKris]

you: do i need a new cooler?
me: coolers needs air to cool down a pc, and urs isnt getting much
you:  you're not helping at all.

 

 

oookkeeeii, if pointing out that ur cooler is probably more than fine and that the case is the problem, isnt helping.. 

[BearGuy58]

27 minutes ago, NorKris said:

you: do i need a new cooler?
me: coolers needs air to cool down a pc, and urs isnt getting much
you:  you're not helping at all.

 

 

oookkeeeii, if pointing out that ur cooler is probably more than fine and that the case is the problem, isnt helping.. 

If you write this down in the first place instead of using a meme or going roundabout...
well, thanks. Appreciate it nonetheless

[NorKris]

9 minutes ago, BearGuy58 said:

If you write this down in the first place instead of using a meme or going roundabout...
well, thanks. Appreciate it nonetheless

i think the darth vader pic(meme if u will) explained it perfectly   and is rly hard to missunderstand 

[jaslion]

6 hours ago, BearGuy58 said:

well, since you point out the case might be the prob, so i'm thinking to switch it with Hyte Y60. Then, will my current AIO will works just fine? or do i still need to change to 280 or 360 rad?

This is why I am asking you to remove the front panel from your pc and run it without to see if the coolerwhen given air does work well

 

The hyte 60 is better but also id recommend better cheaper cases

[BearGuy58]

54 minutes ago, jaslion said:

This is why I am asking you to remove the front panel from your pc and run it without to see if the coolerwhen given air does work well

 

The hyte 60 is better but also id recommend better cheaper cases

ah right, i'll try it later

any recommendation for the case?

[jaslion]

46 minutes ago, BearGuy58 said:

ah right, i'll try it later

any recommendation for the case?

Budget?

[BearGuy58]

51 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Budget?

$180 tops?

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, BearGuy58 said:

$180 tops?

Quite literally you can buy your case with mesh

 

But before any try without the panel to check if your aio is ok. If its not we can do a nice combo of aio + case that suit eachother well

[TPCEA]

4 hours ago, NorKris said:

you: do i need a new cooler?
me: coolers needs air to cool down a pc, and urs isnt getting much
you:  you're not helping at all.

 

 

oookkeeeii, if pointing out that ur cooler is probably more than fine and that the case is the problem, isnt helping.. 

4 hours ago, NorKris said:

i think the darth vader pic(meme if u will) explained it perfectly   and is rly hard to missunderstand 

Nudge... not everyone understands English really well, especially ESL, let alone has the same sense of humor.  

 

I learned that the hard way in Indonesia, where people would laugh at my jokes but have no idea what was so funny. Why? Because I would smile and laugh, so they did the same to be polite, all while not asking "WTF?"

[BearGuy58]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

Quite literally you can buy your case with mesh

 

But before any try without the panel to check if your aio is ok. If its not we can do a nice combo of aio + case that suit eachother well

 

tried run cinebench again with front panel off, the temp is the same, but itrun sligtly faster...
 

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[TPCEA]

1 hour ago, BearGuy58 said:

 

tried run cinebench again with front panel off, the temp is the same, but itrun sligtly faster...
 

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So the cooler isn't good enough. 

[BearGuy58]

24 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

So the cooler isn't good enough. 

so the case's fine?

[TPCEA]

2 minutes ago, BearGuy58 said:

so the case's fine?

*Cough*

 

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