Dell precision 5680 spec

[Ams16]

Hi guys

I am currently trying to configure a Dell precision 5680 and not sure if it's worth the big price jump from the RTX4000 to the RTX5000 graphics card? I will be using the laptop for work doing 3d modelling handling large files and abit of rendering 3d models. Also will be using it for personal use and editing photos on lightroom and using Photoshop for art work/design. Also the highest ram I can spec on this is 64gb as it's soldered to the main board.  Will this be okay? 

What do you guys suggest on this? Hope you can help, thank you :)

[overbuilt_gaming]

My issue with laptop anything is the noise they make under load.  While rendering a project your laptop will sound like a vacuum cleaner, so if this doesn't bother you then okay.  For 1-2 minutes I'm sure it's fine but if it's an hour or more render that would be annoying imo.  

 

I don't know the answers to your questions.  However, that is a commercial line-up of laptop with the correct type of GPU.  I guess the question I have is what are you using now?  Also do not forget about Dell's warranty and return policy.  You can use any system for 30 days and if it doesn't do what you want you can return it for a full refund.  This goes for NEW systems and systems purchased on the OUTLET.

[Ams16]

So currently I have an older Precision 5510 which has the quaddro m1000m

Xeon e3-1505m v5 and I've installed 32gb ram in it 

 

It's abit old now and tbh struggles a bit with larger cad files but I like the small/slim form factor which is why I was looking at the new 5680

 

If I went with the RTX5000 would it actually use the full potential.of it or does it come throttled back from factory? It's about 1k jump in price difference also compared to the rtx4000

[Ams16]

Can anyone help on this? Much appreciated

[Ams16]

I spoke with Dell and they said the Total Graphics power for the RTX5000 is 230w but the 5680 Precision only ships with a 165w PSU. Does this mean the GPU will be underpowered? 

[Ams16]

4 hours ago, TimedPing said:

Max configured power budget on RTX 5000 Mobile (Turing) is only 110W, and only 80W on RTX A5000 mobile (Ampere), the power budget you mentioned is for RTX 5000 desktop card. 165W in max configured precision is quite reasonable, since if both CPU and GPU power is pushed to the max at the same time, the system will balanced out the power, means its gonna share the max power output from the charger between CPU, GPU, and other component like the display, etc, and this is what usually happened on workstation laptop. It's also possibilities that Dell lower the configured power budget to the GPU.

Ah okay maybe that's what they quoted me on the spec, for the desktop card as you say. So with the 165w PSU that's comes with the 5000 will work perfectly fine do you think? I'd like to get the best but if the 5000 doesn't perform to its fullest in the laptop then maybe it's not worth the jump in price. 

 

4 hours ago, TimedPing said:

If you gonna use the laptop as 3D modelling machine with appropriate software that use the advantage of nvidia Quadro driver like AutoCAD, then sure thing. But for me, if you gonna use the machine as 3d modelling workhouse only when stationary (sitting on a same desk most of the time), I recommend you buy the max CPU config but lower tiered dGPU, like RTX A2000/A2000 Ada for instance, your savings then can go to shelf out desktop class GPU and put it into the Thunderbolt 3 enclosure for more raw horsepower and still can be transportable easily, for instance, get the actual RTX A5000 desktop GPU and put it into the thunderbolt 3 dock.

That would be a good idea actually but I will travel with this laptop so I don't think I want to carry the enclosure around with me along with the laptop and PSU,cables etc etc 

 

So would you in this instance go for all the "bells and whistles" with the 5000 option? 

 

[Ams16]

8 hours ago, TimedPing said:

Well, look, you may misunderstood what I said, Ain't no way dell (or any laptop MFG) gonna put desktop GPU on their laptop, regardless of tier and price, you will either got mobile version of RTX 5000/A5000/5000 Ada. This is maybe my bias, but go with Lenovo P16 Gen 2 instead, the charger alone is 230/240W and usually Lenovo gonna crank those mobile GPU to the max for their 16 inch workstation lineup. And for the note, Charger wattage is not the indication of max power delivery on the GPU, some laptop limiting their CPU max power limit and make the GPU run as power hungry as possible, and vice versa also applied. And most laptop nowadays have smart power delivery like I mentioned before, if you task is GPU heavy, most of the power is gonna run trough the GPU, and vice versa.

 

Or if you insist got max performance, just buy Framework 13 laptop with highest CPU option available, and put 64GB of RAM in it, and buy RTX 4000 Ada Desktop GPU with eGPU enclosure that give you 100W power delivery, so if you gonna travel, you doesn't need to carry laptop dedicated adapter, because its will be powered from the eGPU enclosure itslef via Thunderbolt 3/4 PD function. This is gonna resolve the cooling situation, because the laptop integrated cooling system is just gonna cool only the CPU, leaving you with tons of cooling headroom to run the GPU for hours on end, this is especially good in long stretch of render time, AKA both CPU and the GPU will not thermal throttle full tilt.

Sorry, yes I did understand. I think because I keep leaving out the "Ada mobile" on the end of the GPU names it probably confused things. But yes I am on about the mobile versions of these GPUs as this is what I can spec on the Dell configurator 

 

I did look at the Lenovo you mentioned also and spotted that the PSU was around 230w. But personally I like design of the dell which is why I was leaning towards that but I'll take another look

 

With the egpu option, I don't want to have to carry another piece of equipment with me when I travel which is why I don't want to go down the egpu route. 

 

The main question was if it's worth the price jump between the rtx 4000 Ada mobile option to the rtx 5000 Ada mobile option? I was questioning the power supply because I thought maybe the rtx 5000 Ada mobile would have been underpowered with the supplied 165w PSU butaybe it's not

[jaslion]

So a bit of a weird question but. Would you be ok with a gaming laptop for this?

 

Usually heaps cheaper for at worst the same performance.

 

Also what software is used here and are you doing full renders or just quick test oneoffs before sending it off?

 

Depending on how heavy the usecase is the precision might not be the right chocie

[Ams16]

5 hours ago, jaslion said:

So a bit of a weird question but. Would you be ok with a gaming laptop for this?

 

Usually heaps cheaper for at worst the same performance.

 

Also what software is used here and are you doing full renders or just quick test oneoffs before sending it off?

 

Depending on how heavy the usecase is the precision might not be the right chocie

I could use a gaming laptop but I use Autodesk software which works better on workstations. Renderings will be once in a while thing so won't be doing these often. Mainly 3d modelling and handling fully detailed engineering data

[jaslion]

12 minutes ago, Ams16 said:

Mainly 3d modelling and handling fully detailed engineering data

That is very important info and for sure quadro's have an advantage there

[Ams16]

12 hours ago, jaslion said:

That is very important info and for sure quadro's have an advantage there

In your opinion would you say it's worth the price jump to the rtx5000 Ada mobile then or will the rtx4000 option be more than enough? Doesnt really matter on the brand of laptop as I can spec either on the different brand websites etc 

[jaslion]

5 hours ago, Ams16 said:

In your opinion would you say it's worth the price jump to the rtx5000 Ada mobile then or will the rtx4000 option be more than enough? Doesnt really matter on the brand of laptop as I can spec either on the different brand websites etc 

I mean since all you are basically doing is viewport stuff. I'd say a 4000 is more than plenty.

[Ams16]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

I mean since all you are basically doing is viewport stuff. I'd say a 4000 is more than plenty.

Is viewport mainly flat 2d windows though? I work in 3d model view as it's a nurbs modelling program I use. Will the 4000 still be plenty? 

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, Ams16 said:

Is viewport mainly flat 2d windows though? I work in 3d model view as it's a nurbs modelling program I use. Will the 4000 still be plenty? 

The viewport is just your view inside the program can be 2d or 3d.

 

Nurbs is usually mainly single core cpu performance related. So since that is somewhat of an upgrade here you'll notice a difference.

[Ams16]

 

2 hours ago, jaslion said:

The viewport is just your view inside the program can be 2d or 3d.

 

Nurbs is usually mainly single core cpu performance related. So since that is somewhat of an upgrade here you'll notice a difference.

Oh cool that's good then. Just need to make sure I don't have any regret if I spec for the 4000 lol