i7-11700k or i9-11900k for 4060ti?

[CrimsonCR]

I'm looking into buying a 4060ti (don't question me, for my circumstances it makes sense), and wanting to know if i should get the i7-11700k or i9-11900k for minimal bottleneck out of the two. Thank you!

[jaslion]

Neither both of those are quite old and beaten by todays budget cpu's

[Gat Pelsinger]

Please try to go at least 12th gen or newer. DDR5 makes a lot of sense today.

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, CrimsonCR said:

wanting to know if i should get the i7-11700k or i9-11900k for minimal bottleneck

the i9 is barely faster than the i7. Are you putting one of these CPUs into a motherboard you already own, and you're shopping used?

[Dedayog]

7 minutes ago, CrimsonCR said:

I'm looking into buying a 4060ti (don't question me, for my circumstances it makes sense), and wanting to know if i should get the i7-11700k or i9-11900k for minimal bottleneck out of the two. Thank you!

13600k or even the 13400F. If staying Intel.

[Nick Brennan]

Just get the 13600k, ddr5 and an x690 board. Call it a day. Microcenter has great packages for them.

[CrimsonCR]

13 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

the i9 is barely faster than the i7. Are you putting one of these CPUs into a motherboard you already own, and you're shopping used?

I got the Z590 board last christmas with an i5 10400f along with the RAM etc. I only play 1080p at high refresh rates and not even any 2023 titles if im honest. I want the i9 or i7 for low bottleneck in the games I play and for productivity, editing etc lmao. 

[Fasauceome]

2 hours ago, CrimsonCR said:

I got the Z590 board last christmas with an i5 10400f along with the RAM etc. I only play 1080p at high refresh rates and not even any 2023 titles if im honest. I want the i9 or i7 for low bottleneck in the games I play and for productivity, editing etc lmao. 

If you definitely need more cores, a used 10900K might be a good call. Otherwise, get a used i7-10700K or 11700K, whichever you find for a lower price. 

[CrimsonCR]

3 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

If you definitely need more cores, a used 10900K might be a good call. Otherwise, get a used i7-10700K or 11700K, whichever you find for a lower price. 

So in the UK on a well known 2nd hand website you can buy the i9 10850k for £170, the 10900k for £230 and the i9 11900k for £250. i7 wise you can get 10700k for £170 and the 11700k for £190. It seems obviously the 10850k is best for value, would you say it would be a good pairing with the 4060ti at 1080p for my circumstances? I’m trying to minimalise bottleneck ofc.

[Sir Beregond]

If you already have a board, I'd say a used 10850k, 10900k, or 11700k, 11900k would be fine. 10900k has more cores than an 11700k and 11900k so if you do any productivity workloads/application, that might be the better choice, but for gaming, the 11700k and 11900k would probably be slightly better in single core. Only difference between an 11700k and 11900k is max turbo, otherwise they are the same exact core config. But realistically for gaming, either gen might be better than the other depending on the game.

 

All to say any of these options will be fine. Get whatever is cheaper. Personally, I'd look at 10850k/10900k unless you can get an 11th gen cheaper.

[CrimsonCR]

1 minute ago, Sir Beregond said:

If you already have a board, I'd say a used 10850k, 10900k, or 11900k would be fine. 10900k has more cores than an 11900k so if you do any productivity workloads/application, that might be better, but for gaming 11900k would probably be slightly better in single core. But realistically for gaming, either might be better than the other depending on the game.

 

All to say any of these options will be fine. Get whatever is cheaper.

Cheers. So you wouldn't say there'd be any bad bottleneck pairing it with a 4060ti at 1080p?

[Sir Beregond]

5 minutes ago, CrimsonCR said:

Cheers. So you wouldn't say there'd be any bad bottleneck pairing it with a 4060ti at 1080p?

4060 Ti is kinda weak so I'd not really expect a problem there. The bottleneck for a 4060 Ti is its narrow 128-bit bus. 

 

1080p? You'll be fine. You might have some newer games that want better CPU's, but I wouldn't say you are specifically bottlenecking the 4060 Ti. 

[Fasauceome]

7 hours ago, CrimsonCR said:

It seems obviously the 10850k is best for value

for the prices you listed, the 10850K is the bets choice. I actually forgot that this particular CPU existed, to be honest. It was such a late release.

Compared to something brand new, like a 12600KF, it's almost 100 pounds cheaper. It's a solid deal.

 

4 hours ago, CrimsonCR said:

Cheers. So you wouldn't say there'd be any bad bottleneck pairing it with a 4060ti at 1080p?

I would not be too concerned about a bottleneck. At the end of the day, it's a large increase in CPU performance, and a 10-core i9 from the last few years is pretty fast regardless.

[SimplyChunk]

Don't get anything 10th Gen.  You'll be limited to PCIe Gen 3 throughout your board.  Get an i7 11700k  The 11th Gen i9 was never worth it as it's the same core count as the i7 just with a little bump in frequency

[starsmine]

On 10/8/2023 at 3:53 PM, CrimsonCR said:

I'm looking into buying a 4060ti (don't question me, for my circumstances it makes sense), and wanting to know if i should get the i7-11700k or i9-11900k for minimal bottleneck out of the two. Thank you!

I would avoid that entire gen with intel. 11th gen has no speed improvements over 10.

I would look at either 12th gen intel or AMD AM4. Otherwise I would just stick with the 10400f 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0_UcBxnpk&ab_channel=GamersNexus

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16535/intel-core-i7-11700k-review-blasting-off-with-rocket-lake/8

45 minutes ago, ChonkerFox said:

Don't get anything 10th Gen.  You'll be limited to PCIe Gen 3 throughout your board.  Get an i7 11700k  The 11th Gen i9 was never worth it as it's the same core count as the i7 just with a little bump in frequency

10th and 11th share the same board. Yes if the board has pcie 4, the 10th gen cant take advantage of it. but NO 16x card cares. 

edit, 4060ti is only an 8 lane card....
it might mater in this case.... way to go nvidia. 

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/61339-5x-geforce-rtx-4060-nvidias-kleinster-ada-ableger-im-test.html?start=24

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, ChonkerFox said:

You'll be limited to PCIe Gen 3 throughout your board

It really won't make a difference here. The 4060 ti doesn't need a ton of bandwidth 

 

1 hour ago, starsmine said:

would avoid that entire gen with intel. 11th gen has no speed improvements over 10

We're talking used products in this case, the value of a used i7 or i9 over a new i5 is really good. For OP's stated use case of gaming plus editing, it's actually a good idea to keep the existing motherboard and go for more cores

[starsmine]

10 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

It really won't make a difference here. The 4060 ti doesn't need a ton of bandwidth 

 

We're talking used products in this case, the value of a used i7 or i9 over a new i5 is really good. For OP's stated use case of gaming plus editing, it's actually a good idea to keep the existing motherboard and go for more cores

A new used i7 over the currently owned i5 10th gen.

so you are spending 170 USD to be 10% faster for gaming, ASSUMING you are 100% CPU bottlenecked, which you arnt. 

If OP finds value in that, sure. I find insocket upgrades, especially on intels side, to be rarely worth the money. 
Even for editing unless they are paid a LOT per hour. you have to make those 5 min saved per encode project add up 

 

[The Hope]

The Intel 12600KF is faster than the i9-11900K and it is $195 currently:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FXFJW2F?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

 

This is a very powerful CPU that is about 10 years future proof.
I would say this is the most attractive CPU at the moment and I am satisfied with the CPU.

[The Hope]

2 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

for the prices you listed, the 10850K is the bets choice. I actually forgot that this particular CPU existed, to be honest. It was such a late release.

Compared to something brand new, like a 12600KF, it's almost 100 pounds cheaper. It's a solid deal.

nice advice  

 

$285.92

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i9-10850K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B08DHRG2X9/ref=sr_1_1?crid=38NM74XOAJG0Z&keywords=10850k&qid=1696898654&sprefix=10850K%2Caps%2C412&sr=8-1

 

$195.00

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FXFJW2F?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

 

performance comparison:

https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/intel-core-i9-10850k-vs-intel-core-i5-12600kf

[starsmine]

15 minutes ago, The Hope said:

The Intel 12600KF is faster than the i9-11900K and it is $195 currently:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FXFJW2F?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

 

This is a very powerful CPU that is about 10 years future proof.
I would say this is the most attractive CPU at the moment and I am satisfied with the CPU.

Requires a purchase of a new board at minimum so its not just 195.

and possibly new ram as the only thing you run on that platform on DDR4 is alderlake, raptor lake and RLR care alot performance wise if they are on DDR5 so that just traps you into another expensive upgrade path. 

[The Hope]

11 minutes ago, starsmine said:

Requires a purchase of a new board at minimum so its not just 195.

and possibly new ram as the only thing you run on that platform on DDR4 is alderlake, raptor lake and RLR care alot performance wise if they are on DDR5 so that just traps you into another expensive upgrade path. 

ASRock B760M-HDV is $89.99 and he can reuse the RAM. Raptor lake doesn't care about DDR5@6000 CL40 or DDR4@4000 CL16.

In fact, they have equal performance in 90% of the apps. And DDR4 is more stable than DDR5.

 

The suggested 10850K is not really easy to find for a cheaper price if you want a new CPU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nGFKHx/intel-core-i9-10850k-36-ghz-10-core-processor-bx8070110850k

 

[Fasauceome]

23 minutes ago, The Hope said:

The suggested 10850K is not really easy to find for a cheaper price if you want a new CPU.

I believe you missed the earlier posts in the thread indicating the lower price. Used CPU an no need for new motherboard is not a bad deal.

 

10 hours ago, CrimsonCR said:

i9 10850k for £170

 

42 minutes ago, The Hope said:

performance comparison:

yes, you can always spend more money and get more performance. If OP wants to get a new motherboard and CPU, that's an option too.

[The Hope]

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i9 10850k for £170

I think this is too expensive.

 

6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

yes, you can always spend more money and get more performance. If OP wants to get a new motherboard and CPU, that's an option too.

12600k is 43.333% faster in single core performance.

I am not of the opinion that this is a small difference.

Even in 2023, 75% of the apps people use daily are not multi threaded.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, The Hope said:

I am not of the opinion that this is a small difference.

neither am I, necessarily. I think it's worth saving money but it's also worth spending more, it really depends on what OP wants to do. But do you actually think a used CPU and no need for a mobo swap is definitely a bad purchase? Cause that's what I would disagree with.

[CrimsonCR]

7 hours ago, starsmine said:

edit, 4060ti is only an 8 lane card....
it might mater in this case.... way to go nvidia. 

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/61339-5x-geforce-rtx-4060-nvidias-kleinster-ada-ableger-im-test.html?start=24

Anyone good to explain this to me? The card would still work right? Fps hit shouldn’t be too bad either from the link?