MSI and Gigabyte GPU Designs

[IndirectX]

How the hell does the MSI GPU have 2 fans but the Gigabyte GPU has 3 fans for the same model?

 

Above: MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 gddr6 pci_e_x16 12GB 15 Gbps GDRR6 192-Bit HDMI/DP PCIe 4 Torx Twin Fan Ampere OC Graphics Card (RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G OC), Black

 

Above: GIGABYTE pci_e_x16 GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12G (REV2.0) Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, 12GB 192-bit GDDR6, GV-N3060GAMING OC-12GD REV2.0 Video Card

 

Does the REV2.0 have to do with it?

 

Also is the "Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Eagle OC 8G Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 128-bit GDDR6, GV-N4060EAGLE OC-8GD Video Card" better than it in terms of power?

[dizmo]

What do you mean? Each company has many models of RTX 3060.

What do you mean by 'in terms of power'? Power consumption? Power of the GPU at running games?

[RONOTHAN##]

2 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

How the hell does the MSI GPU have 2 fans but the Gigabyte GPU has 3 fans for the same model?

The three fan model is overkill and therefore doesn't have the fans running as fast. 

 

3 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

Does the REV2.0 have to do with it?

No, the Rev.2 means that they changed something on the PCB slightly, likely for when Nvidia changed how LHR worked on the 3060. 

 

4 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

Also is the "Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Eagle OC 8G Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 128-bit GDDR6, GV-N4060EAGLE OC-8GD Video Card" better than it in terms of power?

Yes, it draws less power and is a little faster. The less VRAM can be a dealbreaker though in some instances. 

[IndirectX]

5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

What do you mean? Each company has many models of RTX 3060.

What do you mean by 'in terms of power'? Power consumption? Power of the GPU at running games?

 

In the terms of running games

 

The gpu looked bigger that's why I had a doubt

[IndirectX]

5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

The three fan model is overkill and therefore doesn't have the fans running as fast. 

 

No, the Rev.2 means that they changed something on the PCB slightly, likely for when Nvidia changed how LHR worked on the 3060. 

 

Yes, it draws less power and is a little faster. The less VRAM can be a dealbreaker though in some instances. 

So is the gpu with 3 fans a better Cooler than the the gpu with 2 fans? 

 

But vram doesnt matter that much right? In my region both the gpus have very minimal price difference, so I'm thinking of shifting to a 4060 instead of a 3069

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, IndirectX said:

So is the gpu with 3 fans a better Cooler than the the gpu with 2 fans? 

 

Yes.

 

1 minute ago, IndirectX said:

But vram doesnt matter that much right? In my region both the gpus have very minimal price difference, so I'm thinking of shifting to a 4060 instead of a 3069

It depends on the game. Games like The Last of Us and Jedi: Survivors use a ton of VRAM, where the 4060 can end up with issues with 1% lows because it runs out of VRAM, issues the 3060 doesn't have. 

[dizmo]

12 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

 

In the terms of running games

 

The gpu looked bigger that's why I had a doubt

Size has nothing to do with power in either regard, but it can mean better cooling.
As for which is more powerful, a quick Google search of the review of the card you're looking at will show you the difference.

[IndirectX]

15 hours ago, dizmo said:

Size has nothing to do with power in either regard, but it can mean better cooling.
As for which is more powerful, a quick Google search of the review of the card you're looking at will show you the difference.

 

Most people say that the 40 series is bad. But from FPS comparisons on youtube, it shows that the RTX 4060 has more FPS than the RTX 3060

[Mikey89]

16 hours ago, IndirectX said:

How the hell does the MSI GPU have 2 fans but the Gigabyte GPU has 3 fans for the same model?

 

Above: MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 gddr6 pci_e_x16 12GB 15 Gbps GDRR6 192-Bit HDMI/DP PCIe 4 Torx Twin Fan Ampere OC Graphics Card (RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12G OC), Black

 

Above: GIGABYTE pci_e_x16 GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming OC 12G (REV2.0) Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, 12GB 192-bit GDDR6, GV-N3060GAMING OC-12GD REV2.0 Video Card

 

Does the REV2.0 have to do with it?

 

Also is the "Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Eagle OC 8G Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, 8GB 128-bit GDDR6, GV-N4060EAGLE OC-8GD Video Card" better than it in terms of power?

@IndirectX

 

I was also looking at buying a 4060 and upgrading from a 1660 super.

 

I decide to go with ASUS dual fan because i want to avoid the GPU becoming saggy If it's longer in length.

 

I went with this model, waiting for it to arrive

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-DisplayPort-2-5-Slot-Axial-tech-Technology/dp/B0C7YPGFFW

 

Also from what i heard so far maybe stay away from GIGABYTE - they seem be notorious for bad quality and bad customer service. 

[IndirectX]

18 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@IndirectX

 

I was also looking at buying a 4060 and upgrading from a 1660 super.

 

I decide to go with ASUS dual fan because i want to avoid the GPU becoming saggy If it's longer in length.

 

I went with this model, waiting for it to arrive

 

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-DisplayPort-2-5-Slot-Axial-tech-Technology/dp/B0C7YPGFFW

 

Also from what i heard so far maybe stay away from GIGABYTE - they seem be notorious for bad quality and bad customer service. 

 

Thanks for the advice, ill see to it

[TatamiMatt]

Just now, IndirectX said:

 

Thanks for the advice, ill see to it

If youd like the extra cooling potential, you can always go for the 3 fan and get a stand for the gpu to stop sag, some stands also look pretty cool

[Mikey89]

1 minute ago, IndirectX said:

 

Thanks for the advice, ill see to it

@IndirectX

 

I forgot to mention something - the 4060 might be a better choice over the 3060 because of these:

 

- natively without DLSS the 4060 gets 10-15 FPS more than the 3060 in gaming

- DLSS 3

- frame generation

- lower power draw

 

Also even if the 3060 has 4 GB more VRAM if you're playing at 1080p I think the 4060 - 8 GB will be enough.

[Mikey89]

4 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

If youd like the extra cooling potential, you can always go for the 3 fan and get a stand for the gpu to stop sag, some stands also look pretty cool

@TatamiMatt

 

I was also thinking better 3 fans than 2 but the GPU itself isn't that long, the radiator adds to it's length.

 

I didn't go with the 3 fans version because they can get saggy.

[TatamiMatt]

33 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@TatamiMatt

 

I was also thinking better 3 fans than 2 but the GPU itself isn't that long, the radiator adds to it's length.

 

I didn't go with the 3 fans version because they can get saggy.

Yeah, i opted for the 3 fan 3060 as it was the 12GB VRAM variant as opposed to the 8GB at the time as gigabytes cards were the cheapest at that point (damn gpu mining crisis), and the radiator has a blow through section in the shroud for the 3rd fan which helps with the cooling quite a bit as it doesnt have as much hot air linger around the gpu, and at that point i didnt have a very optimal case setup

[IndirectX]

11 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Yeah, i opted for the 3 fan 3060 as it was the 12GB VRAM variant as opposed to the 8GB at the time as gigabytes cards were the cheapest at that point (damn gpu mining crisis), and the radiator has a blow through section in the shroud for the 3rd fan which helps with the cooling quite a bit as it doesnt have as much hot air linger around the gpu, and at that point i didnt have a very optimal case setup

 

Personally, I had the urge to buy a 3 fan GPU because it gave off a more "Perfect" vibe

Back in the day, the 3 fan GPUs were at the top of the game. Even if 2 fan GPUs might perform better, I have the weird need for 3 fans

[IndirectX]

38 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@TatamiMatt

 

I was also thinking better 3 fans than 2 but the GPU itself isn't that long, the radiator adds to it's length.

 

I didn't go with the 3 fans version because they can get saggy.

 

Doesn't the longer radiator just give more cooling? 

 

Ima try out GPU stands

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

 

Personally, I had the urge to buy a 3 fan GPU because it gave off a more "Perfect" vibe

Back in the day, the 3 fan GPUs were at the top of the game. Even if 2 fan GPUs might perform better, I have the weird need for 3 fans

i get what you mean, i much prefer the aesthetic vibe that the 3 fan GPUs give off also

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

 

Doesn't the longer radiator just give more cooling? 

 

Ima try out GPU stands

I have mine mounted without a stand and havent had any issues in 2 years, i do have a little sag but its very nominal, like, less than a mil, so it doesnt really bother me

[Mikey89]

3 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

 

Doesn't the longer radiator just give more cooling? 

 

Ima try out GPU stands

@IndirectX

 

Not really, that's what I thought also.

 

If you have a good PC case with good cooling it makes all the difference.

 

This is the one I am using

 

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/cases/masterbox-mb511-rgb/

 

I made my 1660 super go from 82'C to 62'C in games when I bought that case.

[IndirectX]

6 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

I have mine mounted without a stand and havent had any issues in 2 years, i do have a little sag but its very nominal, like, less than a mil, so it doesnt really bother me

 

Yea, GPU stands are expensive, ill just put a stick below it

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, Mikey89 said:

@IndirectX

 

Not really, that's what I thought also.

 

If you have a good PC case with good cooling it makes all the difference.

 

This is the one I am using

 

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/cases/masterbox-mb511-rgb/

 

I made my 1660 super go from 82'C to 62'C in games when I bought that case.

What case were you using before out of curiosity? Ive also just ordered a new case but my CPU is the bottleneck right now, so when I upgrade that both the CPU will run hotter and the GPU also as it will no longer be bottlenecked

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, IndirectX said:

 

Yea, GPU stands are expensive, ill just put a stick below it

Where are you based if you dont mind me asking as prices may very, but all you really need for function is something like this for £3.99

Basic GPU stand

[Mikey89]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

What case were you using before out of curiosity? Ive also just ordered a new case but my CPU is the bottleneck right now, so when I upgrade that both the CPU will run hotter and the GPU also as it will no longer be bottlenecked

@TatamiMatt

 

Oh it was an older case back from the early 2000s - it did it's job but cooling was never really too great.

 

Also the one in that link I bought for only 80 euros which was a pretty sweet deal considering it comes with 4 fans pre-installed and front MESH.

[Mikey89]

4 minutes ago, IndirectX said:

 

Yea, GPU stands are expensive, ill just put a stick below it

@IndirectX

 

I don't know how prices are where you live but I am in Europe - that case was 80 euros for me and it came with 4 fans pre-installed (they were free) + front MESH + top GRILL.