7800x3d not boosting higher

[Dutchstraat]

Hi Guys  

 

A while back i ask about the temp i fixed the temps its a little lower now and i read some people get 4.8ghz with my temps.

 

its around 82-83C max but my 7800x3d doesnt boost higher then 4.4ghz can somebody help me out?

 

 

SPECS

 

CPU

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

 

RAM

Corsair DDR5 Vengeance RGB 2x16GB 6400(running 6000)

 

MOTHERBOARD

Asus TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS

 

GPU

Sapphire Pulse 7900xtx

 

M.2 SSD

Corsair MP600 Core XT 1TB M.2 SSD

 

CPU COOLER

Gelid Solutions Liquid 240 - ARGB

 

CASE

Inter-Tech C-303 Mirror Zwart Midi Tower Behuizing

 

 

Hope you guys can help me out!

 

Greeetz

[Brooksie359]

Honestly that board isn't really all that great and I imagine that it's going to limit your cpu from boosting because either it can't deliver enough power or the VRM is to hot to be able to give it enough power. 

[Bagzie]

What exactly are you doing that is running it at 4.4ghz?

 

A 7800X3D will typically boost to around 4.75 - 4.8Ghz in synthetic tests unless....you are running an avx workload like prime 95 does.

 

Try cinebench R23.5 and let us know if its boosting higher.

 

That motherboard is an A620 so it's obviously not that great but atleast it has VRM cooling unlike some others.

 

I do have to ask though.....7900XTX and 7800X3D with an A620 board...why?

[Dutchstraat]

Will try tomorrow but the more i read about the 620 i regret buying it haha and i donno i tought it was fine but yea not at all 

 

Does a b650 board boost higher like 4.8?

[BiotechBen]

7 minutes ago, Dutchstraat said:

Will try tomorrow but the more i read about the 620 i regret buying it haha and i donno i tought it was fine but yea not at all 

 

Does a b650 board boost higher like 4.8?

A GOOD b650 is going to have better power delivery so it may allow more power going into the chip, so it may be able to boost higher.

[Dutchstraat]

Are the 200€ b650 boards worth it in terms of framerate? 

[Brooksie359]

17 minutes ago, Dutchstraat said:

Are the 200€ b650 boards worth it in terms of framerate? 

If you had bought one originally it would have been 50 bucks difference. If you have to spend 200 bucks and can't get a refund on the A620 then I would be hesitant to say the boost in performance would be enough to justify the cost imo. It might be worth it for the longevity of the system though due to working the VRM can cause it to fail sooner granted I don't know how long it would take for the caps to fail at elevated temps and if it would be meaningful. I mean if it made the lifespan of the board go from 10 years down to 7 years in wouldn't matter but I have no clue what the caps in your motherboard are rated at and not sure what the average cap is rated at. Anyways performance only not worth it imo. 

[Dutchstraat]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

If you had bought one originally it would have been 50 bucks difference. If you have to spend 200 bucks and can't get a refund on the A620 then I would be hesitant to say the boost in performance would be enough to justify the cost imo. It might be worth it for the longevity of the system though due to working the VRM can cause it to fail sooner granted I don't know how long it would take for the caps to fail at elevated temps and if it would be meaningful. I mean if it made the lifespan of the board go from 10 years down to 7 years in wouldn't matter but I have no clue what the caps in your motherboard are rated at and not sure what the average cap is rated at. Anyways performance only not worth it imo. 

Ty for the information 

[Dutchstraat]

i did some more testing and it get these results.

 

But im wondering i can get 4.7GHZ on 30.9W but with 80watt max (max load) i only get 4.4ghz

 

can somebody explain this too me? when no load i can hit 4.7ghz but under full load i only get 4.4ghz?

[Likwid]

3 hours ago, Dutchstraat said:

i did some more testing and it get these results.

 

But im wondering i can get 4.7GHZ on 30.9W but with 80watt max (max load) i only get 4.4ghz

 

can somebody explain this too me? when no load i can hit 4.7ghz but under full load i only get 4.4ghz?

shows same behavior, so nothing unexpected and asus has worst boards for AM5

[Alex Atkin UK]

12 hours ago, Bagzie said:

What exactly are you doing that is running it at 4.4ghz?

 

A 7800X3D will typically boost to around 4.75 - 4.8Ghz in synthetic tests unless....you are running an avx workload like prime 95 does.

Cannot stress this enough, as same on my 5950X, it hits 4.4Ghz on AVX but boosts to 4.7Ghz playing Starfield.

 

Synthetic tests are great as a guideline and to test your cooling performance, but they're largely useless to judge real-world performance.

[Bagzie]

5 hours ago, Dutchstraat said:

i did some more testing and it get these results.

 

But im wondering i can get 4.7GHZ on 30.9W but with 80watt max (max load) i only get 4.4ghz

 

can somebody explain this too me? when no load i can hit 4.7ghz but under full load i only get 4.4ghz?

Can you confirm your clocks using HWInfo instead if the stupid bloatware asus crap? 

[Dutchstraat]

18 minutes ago, Bagzie said:

Can you confirm your clocks using HWInfo instead if the stupid bloatware asus crap? 

its in HWINFO the same all cores are around 4.4

[Dutchstraat]

@Bagzie i see you have a MSI B650M-A Wifi does it have curve optimzer? Im thinking of switching boards and how high does your 7800x3d clock?

[Bagzie]

23 hours ago, Dutchstraat said:

@Bagzie i see you have a MSI B650M-A Wifi does it have curve optimzer? Im thinking of switching boards and how high does your 7800x3d clock?

I do use curve optimizer , I have it set to -25 on all cores except core 5 which is unstable at anything better than -15.

 

In cinebench r23.5 I get 4850mhz pretty consistently , gives me a score of 18300 or so which is slightly better than stock and in the right ballpark for a 7800X3D.

[Dizzy1337]

I am having the same issues, i had a i5 Kaby lake and i for example was playing Escape from Tarkov, fine - i upgraded to motherboard to Asricj B650 PG riptide, CPU from i5 kaby lake to Ryzen 7 7800X3D and ram from ddr4 ddr5. (32 gb 6000mhz)

 

almost all FPS games stutter and lag, all drivers are updated and new image of WIN 11 installed.

 

what can i do ? - its unplayable.

 

games teste, Call of Duty the newest, Escape from Tarkov 

[silencer12]

8 minutes ago, Dizzy1337 said:

I am having the same issues, i had a i5 Kaby lake and i for example was playing Escape from Tarkov, fine - i upgraded to motherboard to Asricj B650 PG riptide, CPU from i5 kaby lake to Ryzen 7 7800X3D and ram from ddr4 ddr5. (32 gb 6000mhz)

 

almost all FPS games stutter and lag, all drivers are updated and new image of WIN 11 installed.

 

what can i do ? - its unplayable.

 

games teste, Call of Duty the newest, Escape from Tarkov 

Tried Windows 10?

[Dizzy1337]

5 hours ago, silencer12 said:

Tried Windows 10?

Yes, i had windows 10, after the upgrade and i upgraded to 11 because of the issue also

when playing for example Escape from Tarkov, CPU heavy game

i just orderes a new GPU if it dont work, i will trow the pc out the window, i spent 11 hours on my sunday off to fix it...

 

if anyone has any suggestions please comment below

[Dizzy1337]

Bro’s i fixed it, the bios update fixed every issue

 

i have a b650 riptide

not the newewt driver but the one that fixed 7000 3d issues  yessiiir

[DeXTeR_X3D]

On 9/13/2023 at 10:45 PM, Dutchstraat said:

Hi Guys  

 

A while back i ask about the temp i fixed the temps its a little lower now and i read some people get 4.8ghz with my temps.

 

its around 82-83C max but my 7800x3d doesnt boost higher then 4.4ghz can somebody help me out?

 

 

SPECS

 

CPU

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D

 

RAM

Corsair DDR5 Vengeance RGB 2x16GB 6400(running 6000)

 

MOTHERBOARD

Asus TUF GAMING A620M-PLUS

 

GPU

Sapphire Pulse 7900xtx

 

M.2 SSD

Corsair MP600 Core XT 1TB M.2 SSD

 

CPU COOLER

Gelid Solutions Liquid 240 - ARGB

 

CASE

Inter-Tech C-303 Mirror Zwart Midi Tower Behuizing

 

 

Hope you guys can help me out!

 

Greeetz

You have basic motherboard, and you cant expect any performance out of it. Do not know who told you to buy A620 motherboard in combo with 7800x3d