How to work out average temps

[Shipohoy]

Any ideas on working out average temps. I’m getting a new pc case got the normal programs.

Msi afterburner 

riva server

open hardware monitor 

I got a log file from open hardware monitor and couldn’t understand it at all.

thankyou for the help in advance

[Mozametweakin]

3 minutes ago, Shipohoy said:

Any ideas on working out average temps. I’m getting a new pc case got the normal programs.

Msi afterburner 

riva server

open hardware monitor 

I got a log file from open hardware monitor and couldn’t understand it at all.

thankyou for the help in advance

Are you just confused by how much stuff there is on the screen and can't figure out where some specific temp is?

[emosun]

the average temp wouldn't matter as much as the max temp becuase the average temp has nothing to do with the machine working correctly and being stable.

[Godlygamer23]

6 minutes ago, emosun said:

the average temp wouldn't matter as much as the max temp becuase the average temp has nothing to do with the machine working correctly and being stable.

If you have higher average temperatures on say a modern NVIDIA GPU, that will result in reduced clock speeds. Sure the machine is working correctly, arguably, but performance isn't as high as it could be.

[emosun]

1 minute ago, Godlygamer23 said:

If you have higher average temperatures on say a modern NVIDIA GPU, that will result in reduced clock speeds. Sure the machine is working correctly, arguably, but performance isn't as high as it could be.

if your average temp is dictated by the gpu being over 100c at load and 35 c while idle then i don't think i can really help anyone who only looks at the average temp then. if thats how you measure it then go for it.

[Godlygamer23]

6 minutes ago, emosun said:

if your average temp is dictated by the gpu being over 100c at load and 35 c while idle then i don't think i can really help anyone who only looks at the average temp then. if thats how you measure it then go for it.

Performance drops off as temperatures hit a certain point, and continue to drop as the GPU temperatures climb. You don't need to be at or over TJ max to experience this. It's not necessarily a HUGE amount of performance that's gone, but the frequency does drop. 

[emosun]

1 minute ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Performance drops off as temperatures hit a certain point, and continue to drop as the GPU temperatures climb. You don't need to be at or over TJ max to experience this. It's not necessarily a HUGE amount of performance that's gone, but the frequency does drop. 

so your machine runs at 100c and your fine with that. got it.

[WoodenMarker]

For what purpose? Normally, a machine is stress tested to make sure max temps aren't too high.

[Godlygamer23]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

so your machine runs at 100c and your fine with that. got it.

What are you talking about? 

[emosun]

Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

What are you talking about? 

well you could read what I typed , thats an option as far as checking what I'm talking about.

[Godlygamer23]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

well you could read what I typed , thats an option as far as checking what I'm talking about.

Your claim is that my machine runs at 100 degrees C because of what I said. 

 

What I said is a fact regarding NVIDIA's clock speed and temperature relationship. The GPU does not need to be anywhere near TJ max for the frequency to drop. 

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Your claim is that my machine runs at 100 degrees C because of what I said. 

 

What I said is a fact regarding NVIDIA's clock speed and temperature relationship. The GPU does not need to be anywhere near TJ max for the frequency to drop. 

thank god the forum is just a linear series of posts that can be referred back to at any point otherwise one could assume the thread starts somewhere in the middle. if you wanna continue the argument then move it to a pm so i can ignore it.

[Shipohoy]

Under full load 

ryzen 5800x with pbo on 70c

Rtx 3070 72c

 

i noticed in games cpu got hotter way quick than gpu, I had a old style case with one intake at the time. So the cpu hot air I think was recirculating increasing temps a little,

 

frequency on both components stay at top end no thermal throttling I could tell

[WoodenMarker]

53 minutes ago, Shipohoy said:

Under full load 

ryzen 5800x with pbo on 70c

Rtx 3070 72c

i noticed in games cpu got hotter way quick than gpu, I had a old style case with one intake at the time. So the cpu hot air I think was recirculating increasing temps a little,

Those are good load temps.

There's no rule for how quickly temps should rise. As long as it doesn't run off and overheat, that's fine.

The CPU may be heating up more quickly due to more aggressive boosting and more dynamic loads.

[TPCEA]

9 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

Performance drops off as temperatures hit a certain point, and continue to drop as the GPU temperatures climb. You don't need to be at or over TJ max to experience this. It's not necessarily a HUGE amount of performance that's gone, but the frequency does drop. 

Emosun DID write "as much..."

 

9 hours ago, Godlygamer23 said:

9 hours ago, emosun said:

so your machine runs at 100c and your fine with that. got it.

What are you talking about? 

I believe that's called sarcasm because you ignored the phrase I pointed out. 

 

Your point is not wrong, but theirs isn't, either. Higher average temps are because of higher max temps happening more often. If the user sees 95C once a month, that isn't a big deal, but if the average is 90C, it is a big deal, except for CPUs and GPUs that require higher temps for optimal clock speed. 

9 hours ago, Shipohoy said:

Under full load 

ryzen 5800x with pbo on 70c

Rtx 3070 72c

 

i noticed in games cpu got hotter way quick than gpu, I had a old style case with one intake at the time. So the cpu hot air I think was recirculating increasing temps a little,

 

frequency on both components stay at top end no thermal throttling I could tell

Those temps are absolutely fine. Some games heat up the CPU faster, others the GPU, and some (e.g. Minecraft) that heat up both.

 

If you're really trying for lower temps, undervolt and improve your cooling.