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Hello, I ve recently got a 3070 paired with a ryzen 5 5600g and 32gb of corsair Ram 3600 mhz.

In games like valorant i reach 600 fps in 1080p but when i start moving my cpu latency goes way up and I lose about 200 300 fps and i go to like 300 fps.

I tested 4k on my tv and my fps stays rlly stable to 250 300 and my cpu latency stays stable as well.

I tried many things but im considering that my cpu is struggling to keep up and its bottlenecking, bcs I should get like 400/450 fps average when im playing and its under load and also the cpu latency goes up and when it goes my fps goes down.

Example 4ms cpu latency, 1ms render latency 600fps i move or shot a bit 8/9 ms cpu latency, 1 ms render latency 300 fps.

Since valorant is a cpu heavy game and im planning to stay on 1080 p on my benq zowie 240 hz is it worth Considering and upgrade to a ryzen 7 5800x or a ryzen 9 5900x that bottleneck less on cpu heavy load a 3070.

Thx in advance.

 

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4 minutes ago, pietro256789 said:

Hello, I ve recently got a 3070 paired with a ryzen 5 5600g and 32gb of corsair Ram 3600 mhz.

In games like valorant i reach 600 fps in 1080p but when i start moving my cpu latency goes way up and I lose about 200 300 fps and i go to like 300 fps.

I tested 4k on my tv and my fps stays rlly stable to 250 300 and my cpu latency stays stable as well.

I tried many things but im considering that my cpu is struggling to keep up and its bottlenecking, bcs I should get like 400/450 fps average when im playing and its under load and also the cpu latency goes up and when it goes my fps goes down.

Example 4ms cpu latency, 1ms render latency 600fps i move or shot a bit 8/9 ms cpu latency, 1 ms render latency 300 fps.

Since valorant is a cpu heavy game and im planning to stay on 1080 p on my benq zowie 240 hz is it worth Considering and upgrade to a ryzen 7 5800x or a ryzen 9 5900x that bottleneck less on cpu heavy load a 3070.

Thx in advance.

 

Overclocked at all?

Pbo?

 

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4 minutes ago, pietro256789 said:

Hello, I ve recently got a 3070 paired with a ryzen 5 5600g and 32gb of corsair Ram 3600 mhz.

In games like valorant i reach 600 fps in 1080p but when i start moving my cpu latency goes way up and I lose about 200 300 fps and i go to like 300 fps.

I tested 4k on my tv and my fps stays rlly stable to 250 300 and my cpu latency stays stable as well.

I tried many things but im considering that my cpu is struggling to keep up and its bottlenecking, bcs I should get like 400/450 fps average when im playing and its under load and also the cpu latency goes up and when it goes my fps goes down.

Example 4ms cpu latency, 1ms render latency 600fps i move or shot a bit 8/9 ms cpu latency, 1 ms render latency 300 fps.

Since valorant is a cpu heavy game and im planning to stay on 1080 p on my benq zowie 240 hz is it worth Considering and upgrade to a ryzen 7 5800x or a ryzen 9 5900x that bottleneck less on cpu heavy load a 3070.

Thx in advance.

 

Only the 5800X3D would noticeably help smooth it out. The 5600/5600X are only a tiny bit better than the 5600G so not much improvement, the 5700X/5800X wouldn't help a lot since Valorant isn't really multithreaded focused (no difference between the same cores if there are 6, 8, 12 or 16 cores for that game).

But why not lock the framerate at 238 fps and have a consistent input lag? Just don't tell me 240 isn't smooth cause not even fighter jet pilots can perceive the difference.

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9 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Only the 5800X3D would noticeably help smooth it out. The 5600/5600X are only a tiny bit better than the 5600G so not much improvement, the 5700X/5800X wouldn't help a lot since Valorant isn't really multithreaded focused (no difference between the same cores if there are 6, 8, 12 or 16 cores for that game).

But why not lock the framerate at 238 fps and have a consistent input lag? Just don't tell me 240 isn't smooth cause not even fighter jet pilots can perceive the difference.

If I lock the fps at 240 300 260 it stay unstable as well, so do u think a 5800x3d would fix this issue better than a 9 5900x , bcs as I said at 4k it was really stable

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37 minutes ago, pietro256789 said:

If I lock the fps at 240 300 260 it stay unstable as well, so do u think a 5800x3d would fix this issue better than a 9 5900x , bcs as I said at 4k it was really stable

Well, for a stable frame time graph, the 5800X3D is one of the best CPU-s one can get. Certainly better than the 5900X.

My PUBG was nowhere near as smooth with the 5900X as it is with the 5800X3D now. I can't go back, but I'm on a 6950XT playing on 1440p 144Hz+.

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58 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Well, for a stable frame time graph, the 5800X3D is one of the best CPU-s one can get. Certainly better than the 5900X.

My PUBG was nowhere near as smooth with the 5900X as it is with the 5800X3D now. I can't go back, but I'm on a 6950XT playing on 1440p 144Hz+.

Ok so you think it would pair better for a 3070 either 1080 or in the future 1440 p than a 5900x in terms of stability, anyways i have to put the 5600g in another pc i have so yeah i would rather change in better than get a used for the other thx very much

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20 minutes ago, pietro256789 said:

Ok so you think it would pair better for a 3070 either 1080 or in the future 1440 p than a 5900x in terms of stability, anyways i have to put the 5600g in another pc i have so yeah i would rather change in better than get a used for the other thx very much

Go for the 5800X3D. But, I have to point out, it requires a beefy cooler and a decent motherboard.

What's your motherboard? Which cooler do you have?

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5 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Go for the 5800X3D. But, I have to point out, it requires a beefy cooler and a decent motherboard.

What's your motherboard? Which cooler do you have?

I have a rog strix b550f gaming wifi 2 and an aio msi magcoreliquid240r my cpu runs max 65 at the moment and its 35 40 degress in my country atm

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2 hours ago, pietro256789 said:

I have a rog strix b550f gaming wifi 2 and an aio msi magcoreliquid240r my cpu runs max 65 at the moment and its 35 40 degress in my country atm

The 240mm AIO might be on the weaker side, but the motherboard should be fine. I'd say go for it.

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15 hours ago, 191x7 said:

Only the 5800X3D would noticeably help smooth it out. The 5600/5600X are only a tiny bit better than the 5600G so not much improvement, the 5700X/5800X wouldn't help a lot since Valorant isn't really multithreaded focused (no difference between the same cores if there are 6, 8, 12 or 16 cores for that game).

But why not lock the framerate at 238 fps and have a consistent input lag? Just don't tell me 240 isn't smooth cause not even fighter jet pilots can perceive the difference.

This is not completely true.

 

The 5600G is unfortunately a very cache starved CPU at only 19MB.

The 5600 and 5600X have 35MB of cache.

 

As a 5800X3D owner you allready know the difference cache makes.

 

You also made the point that a 5800X3D needs a beefy cooler and a good motherboard.... I respectfully disagree.

 

There's lots of people out there on Peerless Assasins , AK620's and NH-D15's that run a 5800X3D well within acceptable ranges with absolutely no throttling , The added benefit of an air cooler is it doesn't let your CPU hit the temperature of the sun when it fails like an AIO.

 

Although OP that MSI AIO is infamous for the pump pooping itself relatively quickly.

 

 

 

 

 

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