Used GPU value comparison.

[Connaaaar]

Hi all.

 

I'm looking to upgrade my gf's 1060 3gb. Only looking at used, have found some available and would like feedback/recommendations. All prices are NZD.

 

Gf's current specs:

4790k

32gb ram

1060 3gb

RM650x Corsair psu

This is a mix of used and hand-me-down parts.

 

I have found:

1070 8gb - $150nzd

2060 12gb - $250nzd

2080ti 11gb - $300nzd

5700xt 8gb - $250nzd

 

I'm worried most about price to performance, which from my basic calculation from Passmark gpu benchmarks has an order of:

1st - 1070

2nd - 2080ti

3rd - 5700xt

4th - 2060

 

However 1070 doesn't seem like a big upgrade, seems good value but is it worth it... 2080ti seems overkill but also seems like a good price

Am I missing anything here? Whatever feedback is welcome

[Brooksie359]

Your psu can't handle a 2080ti so that is out of the question and I would say that anything over the 1070 likely will be wasted with that cpu. Maybe spend some on a new gpu and some one new cpu motherboard and ram would be better? Ddr4 ram is dirt cheap atm and you can get a am4 motherboard for cheap and pair that with a r5 5600 or something then get a used gpu and you could get an all around upgrade for not that much. 

[Blue4130]

34 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Your psu can't handle a 2080ti so that is out of the question and I would say that anything over the 1070 likely will be wasted with that cpu. Maybe spend some on a new gpu and some one new cpu motherboard and ram would be better? Ddr4 ram is dirt cheap atm and you can get a am4 motherboard for cheap and pair that with a r5 5600 or something then get a used gpu and you could get an all around upgrade for not that much. 

Unless she is running heavy overclocks or a bunch or harddrives, 650w is more than enough for a 2080 ti and a 4790k, they use 289w and 109w respectively. That leaves pleny for the rest of the system.

[kitnoman]

34 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Your psu can't handle a 2080ti so that is out of the question 

Actually, 650w is just fine with 2080ti. You don't even have to undervolt it, it would work. But it's still not recommended for another reason, which is the CPU as It might get bottlenecked. 1070 is just a few percentage better than 1060 3gb and personally, I won't spend another $150. While the 2060 12gb and 5700xt is too high for $250 for me. I mean you can just get a brand new 6600/6600xt/6650xt at that price or lower. While those 2 gpus are a good upgrade option, I won't buy them at that price.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

49 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Your psu can't handle a 2080ti so that is out of the question

It can since nvidia only reccomends a 600w, besides rmx are pretty high quality so thats not a concern

 

Bout 300-350w ish so lotta headroom even if you run that 4790k at 5g

 

Might run into cpu bottlenecks but all you gotta do is crank the graphics settings and crank up the cpu and ram speeds

 

maybe 4.8ghz ish 2400-2800 ddr3 though unsure of how well haswell can clock quad rank setups need to do some of my own testing, most 4gbit ics will clock past 2000 with relative ease just need high trfc so set trefi to max (65536 usually) to compensate

 

As for safe volts, Vcore = vccsa/io = 1.45v, wouldnt mind going abit higher to 1.5v but thats just reaching uncoolable territory atleast for vcore and i kinda doubt that youd need that much vccsa/io when my g2030 can do 2200 on 4 (psc) sticks with vccsa/io at stock or 1.05v cant remember. Vdimm varies between ics but use as much as you need, be it 1.8v or 2.2v, same goes for all the other volts, youll likely hit a scaling/thermal wall before hitting any properly "dangerous" volts, if thats even a thing for vdimm and ram ics in particular and rams can actually degrade which ill also have to test for myself even though ive already put my samsung 1gbit f die stick to 2.46v and p95 largeffts stress for like 8 hours with no degradation at all

[Connaaaar]

10 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

Actually, 650w is just fine with 2080ti. You don't even have to undervolt it, it would work. But it's still not recommended for another reason, which is the CPU as It might get bottlenecked. 1070 is just a few percentage better than 1060 3gb and personally, I won't spend another $150. While the 2060 12gb and 5700xt is too high for $250 for me. I mean you can just get a brand new 6600/6600xt/6650xt at that price or lower. While those 2 gpus are a good upgrade option, I won't buy them at that price.

Even though this is NZD not USD?

Would be $89usd and $148usd

[kitnoman]

10 minutes ago, Connaaaar said:

Even though this is NZD not USD?

Would be $89usd and $148usd

I won't spend $50 regardless if it's nzd or usd. It's one thing to choose between 1060 3gb vs 1070, if you don't have a gpu yet or coming from a lower end one and another, if you're already on 1060. Will it have gaming performance improvement? Yes, it will. But most of it would be coming from the games that requires more vram(which the other gpus can also offer). wasn't able to see the currency and now that I actually google the conversion rate. I might actually go with the 2080ti regardless if it would bottlenect the cpu lol. Mean 2080ti is on par, more or less and/or trading blows with 3070/4060ti. So getting that performance at around 200USD or lower is a great buy. If she needs to upgrade her cpu, a ryzen 5 5500 build is probably the best and cheapest option.

But just a reminder, those cards, might be heavily mined on. Specially 5700xt(a very good mining card) and 2060 12gb(come out specifically for mining). The 2080ti can also be a mining card by the way, it's just that those two are more popular as a mining card. When buying a mining card, it's actually better to buy from those who actually know how to. So you better ask them a few questions. I personally think that since the last mining boom, when buying a used gpu, it's important that you also have the basic knowledge in mining. For example, candidly asking the seller how many hashrate he's getting at what coin, at what temps/watts are the cards running on and the fans rpm speed. Depending on the answer you will have a rough idea if the gpu you are buying was abused or taken cared of. The key thing is asking candidly, like you are also fond of mining yourself, instead of like an interview. I used to do buy and sell used pc parts as a hobby and side hustle. 

[jaslion]

2 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Your psu can't handle a 2080ti so that is out of the question and I would say that anything over the 1070 likely will be wasted with that cpu. Maybe spend some on a new gpu and some one new cpu motherboard and ram would be better? Ddr4 ram is dirt cheap atm and you can get a am4 motherboard for cheap and pair that with a r5 5600 or something then get a used gpu and you could get an all around upgrade for not that much. 

Yes it can.

 

People ran those on 550w units

 

The 2080ti is stupid efficient. Like about 250w power consumption so well in spec for that unit.

 

 

 

As for op the 2080ti is the best value for money and a good upgrade.

 

The 1070 isnt much better and would be a waste to spend on

[Brooksie359]

10 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

Unless she is running heavy overclocks or a bunch or harddrives, 650w is more than enough for a 2080 ti and a 4790k, they use 289w and 109w respectively. That leaves pleny for the rest of the system.

As someone who owns a 2080ti that has not been my experience. The gpu has power spikes that make anything under a 750w psu not viable granted that is with a beefy after market version so maybe you could be ok with founders edition? Also maybe it's just my 2080ti but it's quite picky in terms of power delivery and wouldn't run on my 750W bronze unit that my 1080ti had no issue with.