CPU Bottleneck? - 100% CPU Usage while gaming

[yungfuji16]

Hey!

 

My PC:

RTX 4070Ti

AMD Ryzen 5 7600x

ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE AM5
G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30

be quiet! Pure Rock
SilentiumPC Vero M3 700W

 

I'm experiencing some sort of a bottleneck on my new system. While gaming at 1080p, which is my monitor's native resolution, my CPU is reaching 100% of usage, while the GPU is around 50-70%. It wouldn't bother me much, the FPS are great, but I'm worried that something will get damaged. Some games even crashed when hitting that 100% mark (Spider-Man Remastered on ULTRA RT Settings). 

 

Is there any way to reduce this bottleneck? I don't really want to buy a new CPU, I don't think that that will eliminate the problem either. I know about increasing the resolution, but not every game has the option to increase that or the scale rendering. I guess I could mess with NVIDIA DSR? 1440p Monitor would probably help, but the one I got isn't really old so I'd wanna keep it for a bit longer.

 

I'm attaching the graphs and whatnot in the post so you can see the statistical look at this issue.

What's your opinion on this? What would you guys do?

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, yungfuji16 said:

Hey!

 

My PC:

RTX 4070Ti

AMD Ryzen 5 7600x

ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE AM5
G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30

be quiet! Pure Rock
SilentiumPC Vero M3 700W

 

I'm experiencing some sort of a bottleneck on my new system. While gaming at 1080p, which is my monitor's native resolution, my CPU is reaching 100% of usage, while the GPU is around 50-70%. It wouldn't bother me much, the FPS are great, but I'm worried that something will get damaged. Some games even crashed when hitting that 100% mark (Spider-Man Remastered on ULTRA RT Settings). 

 

Is there any way to reduce this bottleneck? I don't really want to buy a new CPU, I don't think that that will eliminate the problem either. I know about increasing the resolution, but not every game has the option to increase that or the scale rendering. I guess I could mess with NVIDIA DSR? 1440p Monitor would probably help, but the one I got isn't really old so I'd wanna keep it for a bit longer.

 

I'm attaching the graphs and whatnot in the post so you can see the statistical look at this issue.

What's your opinion on this? What would you guys do?

A CPU is designed to run at 100%.  It will not take damage from doing this, dont worry about that
Temperature on your CPU is also within spec, the 7000 series from AMD is very strange. Its designed to hit 95c as a thermal limit BEFORE anything else, its wants to hit 95c.  If you want, I can link you two videos explaining this.
Nothing bad will happen here, everything is within spec, absolutely no need to worry.

[Hinjima]

35 minutes ago, yungfuji16 said:

Hey!

 

My PC:

RTX 4070Ti

AMD Ryzen 5 7600x

ASRock B650M PG RIPTIDE AM5
G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30

be quiet! Pure Rock
SilentiumPC Vero M3 700W

 

I'm experiencing some sort of a bottleneck on my new system. While gaming at 1080p, which is my monitor's native resolution, my CPU is reaching 100% of usage, while the GPU is around 50-70%. It wouldn't bother me much, the FPS are great, but I'm worried that something will get damaged. Some games even crashed when hitting that 100% mark (Spider-Man Remastered on ULTRA RT Settings). 

 

Is there any way to reduce this bottleneck? I don't really want to buy a new CPU, I don't think that that will eliminate the problem either. I know about increasing the resolution, but not every game has the option to increase that or the scale rendering. I guess I could mess with NVIDIA DSR? 1440p Monitor would probably help, but the one I got isn't really old so I'd wanna keep it for a bit longer.

 

I'm attaching the graphs and whatnot in the post so you can see the statistical look at this issue.

What's your opinion on this? What would you guys do?

I dont have time to reply as I need to head out so I will just post the 2 videos regarding the higher temps on the 7000 series.  And again, a CPU can run at 100% without taking damage     2nd video goes straight to the point.

 

 

[191x7]

The CPU usage with the mentioned games should not be in the 90-100% most of the time, something is off in that regard.

Running the latest Bios? Latest Chipset drivers downloaded from AMD? Latest GPU drivers?

[GuiltySpark_]

Something seems off, I would not expect a brand new 7600x to bit seeing 100% load in a normal game. Latest BIOS and chipset driver to start, something is misconfigured. 

[WereCat]

You sure there isn't something else using your CPU? 

No, it won't get damaged. 

Going to 1440p is not a fix, you just make the game use more of your GPU but from the screenshots you've posted it won't make a difference since your GPU is underutilised so much.

[tikker]

6 hours ago, yungfuji16 said:

I know about increasing the resolution, but not every game has the option to increase that or the scale rendering.

Note that this also mostly a placebo fix in my opinion/experience. With this method you are just increasing the graphical load so much to the point where your GPU becomes the bottleneck. FPS won't magically increase from that, because low graphical load should provide the optimal scenario for raw FPS (ignoring other components bottlenecking) since the CPU can go as fast as it wants without having to wait for the GPU.

 

Looking at DigitalFoundry's video on Spider Man Remastered their 3600 shows very high load at times which is attributed to the game streaming in new assets asynchronously, so the high CPU load on that game may not be unexpected.

 

Secondly, at 1080p you are probably still in breakfast territory for a 4070 Ti if you stay around 50%. That means the CPU can go nuts and thus well-optimised games or games with workloads that suit many cores can use a substantial fraction of it. You may also want to change the graph to show individual cores (right click graph > change graph > logical cores) to see what the individual cores are doing. Do they all shoot up to 100%, or is their combined 'business' simply high enough that Windows considers the CPU 100% busy.

[yungfuji16]

10 hours ago, 191x7 said:

The CPU usage with the mentioned games should not be in the 90-100% most of the time, something is off in that regard.

Running the latest Bios? Latest Chipset drivers downloaded from AMD? Latest GPU drivers?

 

10 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Something seems off, I would not expect a brand new 7600x to bit seeing 100% load in a normal game. Latest BIOS and chipset driver to start, something is misconfigured. 

I had a BSOD while playing Fortnite to test, it was a kernel security check failure so after that I ran all the diagnostics, tests for the disks, RAM etc., installed the latest GPU drivers, chipset drivers, AMD drivers, updated the BIOS. Everything was fine after that, no blue screens. So yeah, I think I'm running all the latest.
 

10 hours ago, WereCat said:

You sure there isn't something else using your CPU? 

No, it won't get damaged. 

Going to 1440p is not a fix, you just make the game use more of your GPU but from the screenshots you've posted it won't make a difference since your GPU is underutilised so much.

Nah, I just had Steam, Afterburner & some Razer stuff open. Spider-Man used up like 97%. And it kinda does make a difference. I turned on DSR in the NVIDIA Control Panel, changed the resolution in Spider-Man to 1440p and the CPU and GPU evened out at like 70-80%.

[yungfuji16]

18 hours ago, tikker said:

You may also want to change the graph to show individual cores (right click graph > change graph > logical cores) to see what the individual cores are doing. Do they all shoot up to 100%, or is their combined 'business' simply high enough that Windows considers the CPU 100% busy.

Tested that right now! Here's the screenshots from Afterburner. Doesn't look too bad so idk.

[tikker]

On 8/3/2023 at 2:55 PM, yungfuji16 said:

Tested that right now! Here's the screenshots from Afterburner. Doesn't look too bad so idk.

It's up there, but if performance is fine then nothing to really worry about. From what I could gather, with Spider Man I would attribute it to loading of assets or some residual shader compilation (if you haven't played it much yet).

[WallacEngineering]

To be honest this could just be the perfect pairing of CPU and GPU. The 7600 is a lower end CPU and the 4070-Ti is a higher end GPU.

 

Since games normally don't utilize all cores, his combination of lower end CPU and higher end GPU might have struck an ideal balance for gaming, where his games can actually utilize most cores in most cases and sometimes all cores depending on the game.

 

If he had a 16-Core 7950X this would certainly not be the case whatsoever, we know that for sure.

[djdoubt03]

Any solution for this, I'm having kind of the same issue with an ryzen 5 5600 and an RX 6700 xt. 

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, djdoubt03 said:

Any solution for this, I'm having kind of the same issue with an ryzen 5 5600 and an RX 6700 xt. 

Please make a new thread. This one is 5 months old with different hardware.

[Mark Kaine]

its really weird that these 7000 chips apparently bottleneck this much, glad i have my 5800x3D lol, no such issues.