3770k Future Proof

[SoundDoctor]

I'm deciding between an i5 and an i7. (I know that there's lots of threads like this). I'm not waiting for Haswell because I already have a Motherboard (V Gene).

 

The main question is; by the the time that games will be able to make use of the 8 Virtual cores of the i7 (not sure how long this will be in), will I be upgrading from Z77 anyway?

 

And if games make use of hyperthreading, how much faster will they run? Can we expect the same performance increase from dual core to quad core?

 

Thanks guys.

 

Edit: Also forgot to add that in the UK, the 3570k is £180 and the 3770k is £260. (Damn VAT)

[Andi]

spent the extra 100$ on GPU power, and you will have more fps. a 3770k really dosn't makes that much of a difference

[JZomerlei]

My dad is still running 775 platform and still kicks butt. Processors are definitely getting more powerful but the bigger part is becoming more power efficient. His computer a round 5 years old now. I think a overclocked i5 or i7 of the current generation will last atleast 5 years. probably more so because overclocked processors will definitely help out.

 

Sorry if I didn't answer your question, just my opinion on this topic!

[Hyydrah]

If you're worried about future proofing your setup, you should wait for Haswell. If you need it now, get the 3570K.

[ericlee30]

There is no such thing as future proofing, but the 3570K, should last about 3 more years before it gets a little outdated, the 3570k and the 3770K are very fast CPU's, it will hold you over tell you want to update again :)

[SoundDoctor]

If you're worried about future proofing your setup, you should wait for Haswell. If you need it now, get the 3570K.

 

I Already have a z77 Board though.

[dxbpc]

3570K got my vote. My processor is an i7-920 running at 3.8Ghz. I bought it in Q1 2009 making it 4 yrs and running. It is still doing a great job for newly released games and all my day-to-day stuff. You already have a good mobo. The thing with technology is that there will always be a new one coming.

[R4STABAN]

Search around for evidence of hyperthreading providing a benefit to gaming performance. IIRC people have demonstrated a benefit when using SLI on bf3.

 

If you're not the type to upgrade your pc often, and might keep it a couple of years, it's worth considering how your usage of it might change. I chose to go with the 2700k instead of the 2500k and now I've started encoding mkvs I'm glad I made that decision..

[unidentical]

No point in having HT for gaming, not really. most of the games out there are coded for consoles and ported to PC, most don't use that much in the way of CPU grunt.

 

You'll get more bang for your buck if you take that $100 and get a better GPU

[spL4cKd-gekZ]

There is no such thing as future proofing, but the 3570K, should last about 3 more years before it gets a little outdated, the 3570k and the 3770K are very fast CPU's, it will hold you over tell you want to update again :)

 

^Agreed. 

[AustinTheIntern]

You should check out Linus's video on NCIXCOM where he discusses how many cores do games use.

[Guest]

I think we're still at a stage where faster clock rates are better that more cores for gaming. It's kind of a difficult thing to choose because we're on the edge of new consoles which are what drive development of gaming. Those consoles from what I've heard are all going to be 8 core CPU's which would theoretically mean development of games optimised for multi core usage. Personally I would go with the 3570k and then get a better cooler such as a Corsair H110 if it fits or a Swiftech H220.

[mgsstar]

A 3570k and a H220 should be able to allow you to overclock in the future so you can minimize the bottleneck.

[Nertballs]

yeah the 3570k seems like the best option. i mean the only time the i7 pulls out from the percentage error is when it's either running synthetic benchmarks, or heavily threaded programs (editing etc.) i mean i'm still rocking a 2500k and it's doing me just fine with a very slight over clock, just to say i have it colcked more than anything else! :P i'd put that money into a decent cooler, and with that motherboard and chip you'd overclock like a champ, if not going for a better GPU instead. out of interest, what GPU are you using/planning for this build?

[SoundDoctor]

yeah the 3570k seems like the best option. i mean the only time the i7 pulls out from the percentage error is when it's either running synthetic benchmarks, or heavily threaded programs (editing etc.) i mean i'm still rocking a 2500k and it's doing me just fine with a very slight over clock, just to say i have it colcked more than anything else! :P i'd put that money into a decent cooler, and with that motherboard and chip you'd overclock like a champ, if not going for a better GPU instead. out of interest, what GPU are you using/planning for this build?

 

Most likley a next gen card. Hopefully the 700 series is not too expensive here in the UK. The VAT added by the government is huge. 

[Glenwing]

Not a good option for future-proofing.  More details here: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/13880-gtx-titan-sli-bottleneck-3570k/?p=152598

[Nertballs]

Most likley a next gen card. Hopefully the 700 series is not too expensive here in the UK. The VAT added by the government is huge. 

i feel your pain, i'm in ireland! as bad as your tax is, i then haveta pay big delivery on that tax then! well then if you hadn't already allowed for a cooler, you could maybe split between either a better cooler and a better graphics card. eg instead of a cooler master hyper 2 evo and a 7870 for £220, you could get a h100i and a 7950 for £310! from dabs, probably cheaper elsewhere, just a cuick look!

[virusal19]

In terms of gaming the 3570k and 3770k is not much of a difference. I think that games won't be using hyper-threading anytime soon. (Maybe in several years) 

[orangecat]

It really does not matter what CPU you get most games don't use hyperthreading and some applications that do are not optimized for it and actually run slower. it all depends what you will be doing on this system. But any core i5/i7 should be fine for the next 5 years or so even for gaming. games don't normally ask to much from the CPU its more about the GPU.

[SirReallySam]

I would get the 3570K if I was you, I think save the money, they are really so similar when it comes to gaming! (i5 and i7) You just don't need the threads yet :)

[jj509]

I have a 3570K OC'd to 4.1Ghz. And I'm planning on keeping it this way for the next 3+ years. I've upgraded nearly ever single gen that came out and I'm seeing that the increase from each gen isn't really noticiable. Once you OC it to near 4Ghz you're pretty beast. Besides gaming I really don't do anything else so hyperthreading won't help me what so ever. So honestly I don't see I don't see a need for i7 let alone waiting for haswell when you already have a Z77 board. You'll have to buy a new socket motherboard anyway for haswell so would you rather spend a little bit of money or a lot of money for performance you honestly won't see. Your choice.

[joelthezombie15]

games are beginning to utilize more cores (not all games but some) so you will be able to have the beginning of it and once it starts getting better (3-4 years i would guess) so you will get the life out of cpu before you have to upgrade, imo

[HeathCliff]

Edit: Also forgot to add that in the UK, the 3570k is £180 and the 3770k is £260. (Damn VAT)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/intel-i7-3770k-OEM-/140973160117?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item20d2a7b6b5

the oem for the 3770k is £230 

hope it helps :D

[SkilledRebuilds]

games are beginning to utilize more cores (not all games but some) so you will be able to have the beginning of it and once it starts getting better (3-4 years i would guess) so you will get the life out of cpu before you have to upgrade, imo

BF3 - Uses more cores if their available,

Coreparking is enabled by default on ALL power profiles in Windows,..It kills multicore performance increases as windows parks HT cores moreso than actual cores but still does actively turn off physical cores., but stuttering is prevalent in games like BF3. Coreparking disabled stops this from happening.

My 2600k has better load with HT on than off (i5 mode) and is replicated easily and shows smoother usage as well,... when coreparking is disabled, not jumping all over the place in usage swapping instructions around.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/15586-unparking-cpus/?p=175852

In a range of other games with coreparking disabled, MINFPS and AVGFPS got an increase MAXFPS went down a smaller amount.

There are things occasionally in place we find out about way too late that have diminished performance out of our control. This is one of those "should have been" disabled in the first place for desktops...

[SoundDoctor]

^ This is very interesting. Thank You.