Still running Windows 10, is it worth upgrading to 11?

[Gershy13]

Im still running on windows 10 on my main gaming system (5800x, X570, 3070). Is it worth me upgrading to Windows 11?

I currently have TPM off, so i would have to switch it on (would this cause any issues? I heard there were ryzen issues with fTPM)

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks

Gershy13

[HorseBattery]

Unless there is something specific you need from Win 11 (e.g. security updates, better Intel CPU scheduling, etc) there is probably no need to upgrade. Win 10 is going to be supported until October 14, 2025 and Win 12 is likely to launch next year anyway.

[Gershy13]

Just now, HorseBattery said:

Unless there is something specific you need from Win 11 (e.g. security updates, better Intel CPU scheduling, etc) there is probably no need to upgrade. Win 10 is going to be supported until October 14, 2025 and Win 12 is likely to launch next year anyway.

The main reason I was considering updating is because there was a new update that supposedly helped performance with higher polling rate mice (like my lamzu 4khz). But that alone I'm not sure if it's worth updating for, especially as I'm not a huge fan of the design of windows 11. However if there were other benefits to upgrading then I'd consider it.

[NeverNotExhausted]

I run Win 11 on my desktop and it's *fine*. I have no real issues with it. I don't really see how it's an upgrade from Win 10, it feels more like a reskin.

[Gershy13]

2 minutes ago, NeverNotExhausted said:

I run Win 11 on my desktop and it's *fine*. I have no real issues with it. I don't really see how it's an upgrade from Win 10, it feels more like a reskin.

I probably wont bother upgrading then, itll probably be more hassle to upgrade than the benefits of it.

[Lurick]

the fTPM issues are present but only if you're on older BIOS, before switching it on regardless of Win 10 or 11 I would make sure you're on the latest BIOS available which should have the fix. I think it's AGESA 1.0.7 that has it implemented.

[Dedayog]

29 minutes ago, HorseBattery said:

Unless there is something specific you need from Win 11 (e.g. security updates, better Intel CPU scheduling, etc) there is probably no need to upgrade. Win 10 is going to be supported until October 14, 2025 and Win 12 is likely to launch next year anyway.

Win 12?  lol.

 

40 minutes ago, Gershy13 said:

Im still running on windows 10 on my main gaming system (5800x, X570, 3070). Is it worth me upgrading to Windows 11?

I currently have TPM off, so i would have to switch it on (would this cause any issues? I heard there were ryzen issues with fTPM)

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks

Gershy13

Win 10 is still working fine.  I use both and 10 is just fine still.  Don't upgrade unless you just want to check Win 11 out or want better performance for the 12th or 13th gen Intel CPUs, as Win11 handles the E-cores better from what reviewers have said.

[jaslion]

13 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Win 12?  lol.

It is targeted to come out before windows 10 ends support.

 

Ms just went back to the regular 3 ish years dev cycle for a new os.

[Dedayog]

26 minutes ago, jaslion said:

It is targeted to come out before windows 10 ends support.

 

Ms just went back to the regular 3 ish years dev cycle for a new os.

We shall see.

 

Is this where you're getting that?  XDA speculation where they have no confirmations of anything?

 

https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-12/

 

May very well  happen or it may be a big update to 11 again.

 

I am not going to hold my breath, but I will keep Chat GPT ready for the free key if it does come out

 

 

 

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

We shall see.

 

Is this where you're getting that?  XDA speculation where they have no confirmations of anything?

 

https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-12/

 

May very well  happen or it may be a big update to 11 again.

 

I am not going to hold my breathe, but I will keep Chat GPT ready for the free key if it does come out

 

 

 

Seems I fell for the rumor mill once more!

 

[GoodBytes]

On 7/14/2023 at 7:25 AM, Gershy13 said:

Im still running on windows 10 on my main gaming system (5800x, X570, 3070). Is it worth me upgrading to Windows 11?

I currently have TPM off, so i would have to switch it on (would this cause any issues? I heard there were ryzen issues with fTPM)

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks

Gershy13

As always, it is up to you.

 

Windows 11 brings a lot of new features and improvements; it is up to you if you care about or not. The list is very long, and keeps increasing as Windows 11 keeps getting new features. It is difficult for me to say "the big features", as we all have different priorities. Many people on this forum would be happy if the OS was a locked down iOS device, with all their games in front of them, and maybe a web browser. Others have more needs.

 

Here are some notable ones.

• Easy audio switch source selection from action center.
• New Volume Mixer panel from action center.
• Easy Bluetooth connection and battery life check from action center
• Bluetooth AAC audio support (in other words, notable audio quality improvement when using BT headset or headphones)
• New compression file format support (coming soon officially, beta only so far): 7z, RAR, tar, tar.gz, bz2, tbz2 and more.
• "Recommended" section of the Start menu (I know, I know... but after 2 years, and trying to make it part of my flow, I actually liked it. I think people who do work on their PC, should give it a spin. Helps resuming where you left off, or finding that file which you worked on recently, but didn't save at the proper place by mistake, for example)
• Improved multi-monitor support.
• Support for laptop being used as desktop and "undocked" (unplugged) and connected back (restore all windows were you left them)
• Improved Window Snap
• Windows Subsystem for Android (run Android apps. No Google service though... ('cause Google is not happy) but hacks can be done to have it)
• Improved Settings app (way better organized and cleaner than Win10 one, in my opinion. Also, even more options from Control Panel moved there.)
• Windows Terminal integration (user and admin level).
• Hugely improved Touch Screen Keyboard (faster, more responsive and customizable)
• Faster Windows Updates
• More consistent layout across the OS, and built-in apps
• Much improved Notepad with tabs support, better search, unlimited undo's
• Improved Task Manager (a bunch of really minor things, but it all adds up)
• Improved Touchpad Gestures controls (assuming you are on a laptop with Microsoft Precision Touchpad driver)
• WSLg (Windows Subsystem for Linux, allowing to run and develop Linux apps under Windows, with full GPU acceleration, Audio and GUI support). If you are a developer this is a big deal.
• HEVC codec support
• Massive Touch Screen improvements (night and day better from Windows 10).
• AutoHDR
• HDR support to color-managed apps
• HDR calibration tool.

There is also DirectStorage... but still waiting for games devs to support it. I think they will invest time implementing it once most people are under Win11+. If it were my guess, is that probably they realized it will be very difficult for supporting both DirectStorage supported systems and not.

 

 

As for reliability. Windows 11 is Windows 10.

Even when you open the Terminal, you see the OS being Identified as Windows 10.

 

As for Windows 12, things will be different most likely. Microsoft is experimenting recoding some or many (we will see) core components from C/C++ to Rust programing language (in short: a better, more secure programming language). That said, humans make mistakes, and so, expect bugs where it didn't used to have. We will see if it follows through, or MS rollback that decision until Windows 12 is released. Also, as for system resource consumption differences, we will have to wait and see. It might require more memory due to Rust robust memory management that the programming language brings, as for CPU, we will see. It is hard to determine, as it all comes down to how the team working on each component really knows the programming language, and what optimizations they do and how. So, while technically it should not have an impact, it is a recode, and won't have the years of polish and optimization that the older code has everywhere, and so it can be safe to assume that there is a performance impact, in my opinion.

[dight]

windows 11 is a lag-infested mess. don't upgrade. it's filled wth uwp components that are bloated and slow, there's crazy ui changes like the uwp context menu and the downgraded excuse of a start menu and it's really not that different to 10 under the hood.

[GoodBytes]

41 minutes ago, dight said:

windows 11 is a lag-infested mess. don't upgrade. it's filled wth uwp components that are bloated and slow, there's crazy ui changes like the uwp context menu and the downgraded excuse of a start menu and it's really not that different to 10 under the hood.

Seems like your system isn't Windows 11 ready, not following system recommended specifications.

Or you forgot to update your BIOS/UEFI or you forgotten to install your chipset drivers.

 

Context menu isn't UWP app, and it uses your GPU to render.

Start menu follows what people wanted. No more Live Tiles. Most people were using it as quick launcher for showing only icons. Exactly as it is with Windows 11.

 

Sorry to hear you were facing issues with Windows 11, the forum might be able to help you. The massive majority of people don't have any issues. You can go to your local electronic store and test a Windows 11 system. Most, if not all, reviewers now test under Windows 11. You can see gaming benchmarks.

[dight]

On 7/18/2023 at 10:37 AM, GoodBytes said:

Seems like your system isn't Windows 11 ready, not following system recommended specifications.

Or you forgot to update your BIOS/UEFI or you forgotten to install your chipset drivers.

my system is from 2019 and it still runs windows 11 like crap. even hardware tailored for it which windows is also designed for will still feel slower. even if performance is still the same or better. aka it has a higher latency