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Exactly, if you can afford the best, why not do it? Just get an RTX 4090.

 

I also wouldn't count on RTX 4090-Ti or RX 7950-XT. Well I guess the AMD card is more likely but I really doubt Nvidia wants to release a card with even higher power draw. Remember, the RTX 4090 will draw 600 watts if you unlock the power target, its kind of rediculous.

 

The 7950-XTX would just be an overclocked version of the 7900-XTX just like all the 50-XT cards were last gen, so at best it will be like 5% faster at best anyway.

 

The RTX 4090 is top dog and the 7900-XTX is far more affordable while still offering 4K Ultra gaming at 90+ FPS. The XTX is faster in raster than the RTX 4080, but 10-15% slower in Ray-Tracing.

 

Thats all there is to it, its that simple really.

 

@r00tb33r I do some editing with my XTX and its a very good experience, these days AMD can handle some professional work and in some cases even exceed the professional performance of their Nvidia counterpart.

 

I would say you only NEED Nvidia if you specifically want Cuda Acceleration or you do other professional work such as 3D Rendering or Deep Learning. However ROCm is coming to the XTX this fall, a competing technology to Cuda Acceleration.

 

But again, the very best consumer card is the RTX 4090 and I wouldn't count on a Ti version coming out because of power consumption.

 

And don't bother waiting for RTX 5000. The performance increase will be much smaller than the RTX 4090 was. They are only moving from 4nm to 3nm for RTX 5000 because we are starting to hit the physical limits of how much we can shrink traditional transistors.

 

So RTX 5000 and beyond are likely to be much smaller jumps in performance - probably 30-ish percent per generation until we hit a brick wall.

should i build my pc with rtx 4000 series or should i wait for rtx 5000 if the leaks are to be believed? also should i consider buying amd cards?

 

main use will be for gaming however i may consider needing to edit photos down the line and perhaps even a bit of video although realistically it won't be very much

which one should i invest in for building a pc at the top end so 4090ti or 7950xtx?

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I would buy the RTX TITAN Ada, it has more vram and more future proof compered to the RX 7990XTX

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50 series is rumoured to be Q1 2025 release so it is a long wait.

 

Don't count on future higher models being released by either side this gen. If you want a top experience now and can afford it, why not 4090?

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I think OP needs to more clearly definitely the use case.

 

AMD is pretty much out of the question for anything other than gaming.

 

If you put emphasis on editing then maybe wait for Intel's next offering.

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AMD cards are more about value for money than raw power. If you were looking at a 4080 (or lower tier) then I’d recommend AMD cards. But when your looking at the 4090 and 4090Ti, there just isn’t a competitive AMD card.

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@Indian pc builder

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Exactly, if you can afford the best, why not do it? Just get an RTX 4090.

 

I also wouldn't count on RTX 4090-Ti or RX 7950-XT. Well I guess the AMD card is more likely but I really doubt Nvidia wants to release a card with even higher power draw. Remember, the RTX 4090 will draw 600 watts if you unlock the power target, its kind of rediculous.

 

The 7950-XTX would just be an overclocked version of the 7900-XTX just like all the 50-XT cards were last gen, so at best it will be like 5% faster at best anyway.

 

The RTX 4090 is top dog and the 7900-XTX is far more affordable while still offering 4K Ultra gaming at 90+ FPS. The XTX is faster in raster than the RTX 4080, but 10-15% slower in Ray-Tracing.

 

Thats all there is to it, its that simple really.

 

@r00tb33r I do some editing with my XTX and its a very good experience, these days AMD can handle some professional work and in some cases even exceed the professional performance of their Nvidia counterpart.

 

I would say you only NEED Nvidia if you specifically want Cuda Acceleration or you do other professional work such as 3D Rendering or Deep Learning. However ROCm is coming to the XTX this fall, a competing technology to Cuda Acceleration.

 

But again, the very best consumer card is the RTX 4090 and I wouldn't count on a Ti version coming out because of power consumption.

 

And don't bother waiting for RTX 5000. The performance increase will be much smaller than the RTX 4090 was. They are only moving from 4nm to 3nm for RTX 5000 because we are starting to hit the physical limits of how much we can shrink traditional transistors.

 

So RTX 5000 and beyond are likely to be much smaller jumps in performance - probably 30-ish percent per generation until we hit a brick wall.

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On 7/1/2023 at 1:21 PM, r00tb33r said:

I think OP needs to more clearly definitely the use case.

 

AMD is pretty much out of the question for anything other than gaming.

 

If you put emphasis on editing then maybe wait for Intel's next offering.

Intel CPU or GPU? Because compared to Nvidia and AMD, Intel drivers are a joke

Imagine everything i have written in a Linus Voice/ linus tone (Spock live long and prosper gif here ,idk why tho, i guess i just want to say that i like star trek and am waiting for new seasons of the ongoing shows), But seriously, a lot of what i type only makes sense when said in a Linus tone from an older ltt video (circa 2017-2019 & now 2024-onwards) basically before he got a beard and a lot of it should make sense even in a Linus with a beard face.

also note as per the latest typing test on my laptop, my accuracy is 69%

 

I'm not weird/creepy, I'm just observant I have ADHD and am not on any meds for it.

 

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