Getting CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT repeatedly

[Symbiote256]

14 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Yeah.  It’s a way to check it but you’ve done other tests that do the same thing so that’s probably not it either.  The only thing it could possibly do now is check the cabling to the drive and to do that you’d actually have the system driveless with the USB being the only drive on the thing.  Real limited utility at this point.  was thinking motherboard would be a prime suspect.  There just so many different systems on it.  My main suspicion of ram mostly just came from crash after boot commonly being ram.  
I dunno much about the PSU other than it being not terribly big.  This isn’t the type of error most commonly associated with not enough PSU.  That’s generally a ‘click’ followed by the whole machine shutting down.  Was it replaced when you  did the motherboard swap?  If not how old is it?

So by cabling I assume you mean the sata cables that connect the motherboard to the drives. New ones came with the motherboard and I replaced the old ones with them so most probably that isn't the case.

 

My PSU was not replaced when I bought my new motherboard and CPU (which was around a month ago). It has been installed in this system since it was built in March 2019. 

 

Also, there have been no "click and shut down" PSU related issues. So hopefully it isn't the PSU.

 

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by Symbiote256

[Bombastinator]

Just now, Symbiote256 said:

So by cabling I assume you mean the sata cables that connect the motherboard to the drives. New ones came with the motherboard and I replaced the old ones with them so most probably that isn't the case.

 

My PSU was not replaced when I bought my new motherboard and CPU (which was around a month ago). It has been installed in this system since it was built in March 2019. 

 

 

That’s different than how long it has been used.  Was it in another machine of yours (or was it bought used) before that?

[Symbiote256]

2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

That’s different than how long it has been used.  Was it in another machine of yours (or was it bought used) before that?

Nope, PSU was brand new. I'll give you a history of my build xD.

 

So my PSU was a part of my initial build that had a RX 570, i3-8100, same 16 gb RAM sticks, and an Asrock-H310M. Everything brand new from 2019. I replaced my GPU to a refurbished Rx 6600 XT in January 2023. After that, I replaced my CPU and Motherboard a month ago. 

Same PSU since the system was built. 

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, Symbiote256 said:

Nope, PSU was brand new. I'll give you a history of my build xD.

 

So my PSU was a part of my initial build that had a RX 570, i3-8100, same 16 gb RAM sticks, and an Asrock-H310M. Everything brand new from 2019. I replaced my GPU to a refurbished Rx 6600 XT in January 2023. After that, I replaced my CPU and Motherboard a month ago. 

Same PSU since the system was built. 

PSU shouldn’t fail that fast and it did it’s burn in already so unless it’s too small it seems unlikely.  Memory appears to be good and same deal there with burn in not a problem.  When fails happen it’s usually in the first few weeks (burn in) or after the service life of the product is over.  The only parts there still in the burn in window are the cpu and motherboard. I don’t know how much the 66xt draws though and I don’t know what it had before.  I suppose it’s possible that if the PSU wasn’t pushed very hard (seems unlikely)  but now is a flaw left over from 2019 could pop up, but it doesn’t seem super likely.  Is there maybe another machine you can test the cpu in?  (Less of a PITA to swap than the motherboard) if the cpu comes back good that makes the motherboard most likely.  With motherboards I like to reflash the bios once and check it just to make sure it’s not that.  May have already been done.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Bombastinator

[Symbiote256]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

PSU shouldn’t fail that fast and it did it’s burn in already so unless it’s too small it seems unlikely.  Memory appears to be good and same deal there with burn in not a problem.  When fails happen it’s usually in the first few weeks (burn in) or after the service life of the product is over.  The only parts there still in the burn in window are the cpu and motherboard. I don’t know how much the 66xt draws though and I don’t know what it had before.  I suppose it’s possible that if the PSU wasn’t pushed very hard (seems unlikely)  but now is a flaw left over from 2019 could pop up, but it doesn’t seem super likely.  Is there maybe another machine you can test the cpu in?  (Less of a PITA to swap than the motherboard) if the cpu comes back good that makes the motherboard most likely.  With motherboards I like to reflash the bios once and check it just to make sure it’s not that.  May have already been done.

Well, I don't have another machine, but I can ask the store to test the CPU when I go on Monday. They asked me to get both the motherboard and CPU, so they may have this in mind anyway.

 

Also, the 6600XT draws 160W, and the Ryzen 5 5600 draws 65W. I did actually calculate this on Newegg I think it was? My entire system's wattage. It said my power usage is between 400-499W, which I assume to mean that there are times when my system is drawing more than 450W, up to 499 even. Would I be correct in assuming that?

 

Also, I noticed you hit 30k posts, congratulations and I couldn't thank you enough for dedicating your time to helping people like me. Cheers!

[Symbiote256]

UPDATE

 

It was NOT the motherboard. I got it looked at by Asrock and personally talked to the technician who looked at my board. He confirmed there was no issue with it. He pointed out that the problem could only be with a drive, CPU or RAM. I've already checked the system by disconnecting every drive except the M.2 SSD that only has the OS, I'be swapped my RAM sticks and slots, checked with one stick in each. Every time the error has popped up. The only thing that is left to check now is the CPU. I've submitted a warranty claim with AMD and they're asking for proof and all, so I'll get through that and update again. 

 

P.S Even got my GPU replaced under warranty lol, cause it seemed to be the problem when it was swapped earlier. However, as I've writtern above, i used my old GT 1030 with the system and the error popped up again so I don't think its the GPU. 

 

Let's see if replacing or just giving the CPU to AMD for RMA will fix it or not. Otheriwise I'll replace my RAM sticks as well. If that doesn't do it, its the PSU. After that, I'll buy a PS5  

 

Any advice is welcome. If there's anything, say, voltage-wise or something, that can be done to maybe havea  chance of solving this through bios, let me know. I'm really out of ideas at this point. 

[DoctorNick]

16 minutes ago, Symbiote256 said:

UPDATE

 

It was NOT the motherboard. I got it looked at by Asrock and personally talked to the technician who looked at my board. He confirmed there was no issue with it. He pointed out that the problem could only be with a drive, CPU or RAM. I've already checked the system by disconnecting every drive except the M.2 SSD that only has the OS, I'be swapped my RAM sticks and slots, checked with one stick in each. Every time the error has popped up. The only thing that is left to check now is the CPU. I've submitted a warranty claim with AMD and they're asking for proof and all, so I'll get through that and update again. 

 

P.S Even got my GPU replaced under warranty lol, cause it seemed to be the problem when it was swapped earlier. However, as I've writtern above, i used my old GT 1030 with the system and the error popped up again so I don't think its the GPU. 

 

Let's see if replacing or just giving the CPU to AMD for RMA will fix it or not. Otheriwise I'll replace my RAM sticks as well. If that doesn't do it, its the PSU. After that, I'll buy a PS5  

 

Any advice is welcome. If there's anything, say, voltage-wise or something, that can be done to maybe havea  chance of solving this through bios, let me know. I'm really out of ideas at this point. 

Sorry if this info is somewhere in this thread, but did you try installing windows with only the M.2 SSD installed, with all other drives removed? 

[PC Player]

On 6/1/2023 at 6:37 PM, Symbiote256 said:

I've recently upgraded my system by replacing my Asrock H310M and i3-8100 with an Asrock B450M and a Ryzen 5 5600. The new parts were installed more than two weeks ago, and I've been getting this BSOD for a day. Mostly it crops up some time after booting up. I've even had it on the password screen. Attempted the memory diagnostic tool, malware removal stuff, updated my GPU and windows drivers, ran chkdsk, reseated my GPU, sata ssd and ram. I've had "irql_not_less_or_equal" twice as well and "System service exception" once. A little help, guys?

 

I had two folders for dump files, Minidump and Minidumps. Minidump was empty, and Minidumps had these files.

 

I did the PERFMON thing but I couldn't get the option to Save As, it was greyed out.

 

OS - Windows 10

x64
What OS was originally installed on the system? - Windows 10
Age of system (hardware) - Motherboard and CPU (2 weeks), GPU (Almost 5 months), PSU and RAM (4 years, with one stick being replaced somewhere in between) 
Age of OS installation - have you re-installed the OS? - Yes, been more than a year
Desktop.

 

 

MSI 6600XT (refurbished)

Ryzen 5 5600

Asrock B450M

Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB DDR4 3000 mhz

Corsair VS450

If not memory, which it probably is, it’s possible that it’s the psu. 450 Watts just really isn’t enough for your system to run optimally. I would recommend a 650 Watt psu.

[Symbiote256]

37 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Sorry if this info is somewhere in this thread, but did you try installing windows with only the M.2 SSD installed, with all other drives removed? 

yes, already done multiple times

[Symbiote256]

11 minutes ago, PC Player said:

If not memory, which it probably is, it’s possible that it’s the psu. 450 Watts just really isn’t enough for your system to run optimally. I would recommend a 650 Watt psu.

So like I've said, I've tested every possible physical RAM combination, right?  Also run the windows memory diagnostic tool and no error. Twice. Is there any chance the RAM could be faulty even after this? 

 

And I 100% agree about the PSU, but multiple people have told me its not related to PSU. However, nothing has worked until now and I definitely will buy a new 650W 80+ bronze PSU in the coming days. 

 

A bit of advice, however. You think I should give my CPU for RMA before getting a new PSU or try the power supply first? I can obviously also replace my RAM, 10 year warranty and all, but man, what other test can I run on it?

[PC Player]

5 hours ago, Symbiote256 said:

And I 100% agree about the PSU, but multiple people have told me its not related to PSU. However, nothing has worked until now and I definitely will buy a new 650W 80+ bronze PSU in the coming days. 

Make sure to check the cultist’s network PSU tier list!

 

5 hours ago, Symbiote256 said:

A bit of advice, however. You think I should give my CPU for RMA before getting a new PSU or try the power supply first? I can obviously also replace my RAM, 10 year warranty and all, but man, what other test can I run on it?

I would try to rma or replace your ram first, but then if that doesn’t work, then yeah I would try to do an rma with your cpu before getting a new power supply, considering you are having an actually issue and don’t just want a new cpu, so it shouldn’t do any harm to the company or you. However, I would still suggest getting a new 650W PSU no matter what, so maybe just wait until you deal with this problem first.

[Symbiote256]

Okay. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but here goes. It was the most obvious thing in the world: the BIOS flash. Literally the first solution on every frickin website or video. Updating my BIOS. 

 

Now, let me explain. I've had this PC since 2019. This was my first PC, and when it was built in 2019, I didn't care one bit about what the guys in the store were doing. My tech-savvy friend who's the reason behind me owning a gaming PC in the first place, oversaw everything. This current experience literally taught me the entire process of building a PC. 

 

And the ONLY reason I went through all this hassle was because the store I bought my new motherboard and CPU from had a tech guy who popped in my CPU and tested my motherboard in front of me on his test bench. He showed me the BIOS, ASSURED ME THAT IT WAS UPDATED, AND SAID THERE WAS NO NEED TO UPDATE. Dude, like, I think a tech "expert" in a frickin computer gaming store should know that the BIOS version on his motherboard is a year old. Idk, guess that's the Indian market for you.

 

I didn't even know what "flashing" your BIOS meant, and I didn't even know you had to do that. I mean I've watched LTT, Jay, Bitwit, Austin, GamersNexus, etc. a lot but like I'd never actually built a PC with brand new parts, only swapped out my GPU and RAM till now.

 

Now, some good did come of this. I had a refurbished 6600 XT and MSI replaced it with a brand new one. Same goes for my CPU and RAM. And I learnt how to properly build a PC, and that IT WASN'T THE PSU. Time wasted but knowledge gained I guess. A month. *Facepalm*

 

I even checked online and I must have checked the wrong website cause it showed my BIOS version as P4.90 when it was 10.1 or something. Guess it's my fault anyway.

 

Anyway, thanks so much folks. Everyone here was amazing and really helpful even though there literally wasn't a problem. This is a lovely community. Keep it up guys. 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2023 by Symbiote256