Jump to content

Just Curious what is the oldest Intel and AMD CPU that can stil play all of today's modern games?

How long does it take for a CPU generation to be declared obsolite?

My Main PC

  • CPU: 13700KF
  • Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk
  • RAM: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5-6000MHz TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta
  • GPU: RTX 4070 ASUS Dual
  • Case: RAIDMAX X603
  • Storage: WD SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair RM850X Fully Modular
  • Cooling: DEEPCOOL LS720
  • Display(s): Gigabyte G24F2 & Dell S2318HN/NX
  • Keyboard: Logitech G512 Carbon (GX Blue)
  • Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero
  • Sound: Bose Headphone & Creative SBS260
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro

Laptop: Alienware m15 R1

  • OS: Windows 10 Pro
  • CPU: 9750H
  • MB: OEM
  • RAM: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4 2666Mhz
  • GPU: RTX 2060 (Mobile)

Phone: Galaxy A54

Other: Nintendo Switch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Define "play"

R9 5900X, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240, Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2, 2x16GB Kingston FuryX 3800MHZ CL18 Hynix DJR "Tuned" , Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC, Windows 11

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think 8th gen is probably the oldest you can go intel-wise without delving into HEDT.

Most modern AAA games do see benefits from having 6 or more cores

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Ballpark would be Ryzen for AMD, Skylake quad cores for Intel, as far as getting a solid experience in most games. 

Intel HEDT and Server platform enthusiasts: Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Megathread 

 

Main PC 

CPU: i9 7980XE @4.5GHz/1.22v/-2 AVX offset 

Cooler: EKWB Supremacy Block - custom loop w/360mm +280mm rads 

Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark 

RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 

GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block 

Storage:  1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo 

Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 

PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 

Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM 

OS: Windows 11

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 2020 M1 MacBook Air (work computer) - iPhone 13 Pro Max - Apple Watch S3

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, 128GB SD card swap, running Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Azurael said:

How long does it take for a CPU generation to be declared obsolite?

well a lot of them can do it but it would need to be at high settings/high resolution

I hit 700W on an i5 with a NHD15

Also I'm 14 so please just confirm anything I say with someone more experienced

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, KnoT said:

Define "play"

A smooth 60FPS on mid settings.

My Main PC

  • CPU: 13700KF
  • Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk
  • RAM: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5-6000MHz TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta
  • GPU: RTX 4070 ASUS Dual
  • Case: RAIDMAX X603
  • Storage: WD SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair RM850X Fully Modular
  • Cooling: DEEPCOOL LS720
  • Display(s): Gigabyte G24F2 & Dell S2318HN/NX
  • Keyboard: Logitech G512 Carbon (GX Blue)
  • Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero
  • Sound: Bose Headphone & Creative SBS260
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro

Laptop: Alienware m15 R1

  • OS: Windows 10 Pro
  • CPU: 9750H
  • MB: OEM
  • RAM: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4 2666Mhz
  • GPU: RTX 2060 (Mobile)

Phone: Galaxy A54

Other: Nintendo Switch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Azurael said:

How long does it take for a CPU generation to be declared obsolite?

When it is obsolete.

 

There is no set time.

 

Basically if you get a cpu a bit stronger than the consoles AND it has at least the same amount of threads you last that generation and then some.

 

But other than that little to say. It's why 8 thread cpu's are the current minimum and that will change with the current consoles becoming the only ones.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Azurael said:

A smooth 60FPS on mid settings.

Then it all depends on a game as example Hogwarts Legacy needs rly modern CPU to get there 

If anything you can call CPU obsolete when you cant even launch new games cuz they are missing certain instruction sets like AVX

R9 5900X, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240, Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE V2, 2x16GB Kingston FuryX 3800MHZ CL18 Hynix DJR "Tuned" , Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC, Windows 11

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Azurael said:

A smooth 60FPS on mid settings.

RIGHT NOW (thats the big thing) a i7 2600k can do it. I DO NOT give it more than a year before it can't. There are already games that don't work on that cpu and those are the real next gen titles.

 

So basically to be windows 11 compatible AND be ok I'd say the minimum would be a ryzen 2600

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I built a Xeon e5-2690 v4 (Broadwell, 5th gen Intel) with a 1060 GTX 6GB that played Cyberpunk 2077 on high settings (no raytracing obviously)  at 60 FPS. I don't know how well CP 2077 is optimized, but 5th gen still seems viable.

My dual Ivy Bridge Xeon workstation, with a 1660 Super, plays games just fine at 60fps (though admittedly, it's still on Windows 8.1, so my testing is somewhat limited)

NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, jaslion said:

When it is obsolete.

 

There is no set time.

 

Basically if you get a cpu a bit stronger than the consoles AND it has at least the same amount of threads you last that generation and then some.

 

But other than that little to say. It's why 8 thread cpu's are the current minimum and that will change with the current consoles becoming the only ones.

Hyper Threading does not count when counting these 8 threads right?

My Main PC

  • CPU: 13700KF
  • Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk
  • RAM: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5-6000MHz TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta
  • GPU: RTX 4070 ASUS Dual
  • Case: RAIDMAX X603
  • Storage: WD SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair RM850X Fully Modular
  • Cooling: DEEPCOOL LS720
  • Display(s): Gigabyte G24F2 & Dell S2318HN/NX
  • Keyboard: Logitech G512 Carbon (GX Blue)
  • Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero
  • Sound: Bose Headphone & Creative SBS260
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro

Laptop: Alienware m15 R1

  • OS: Windows 10 Pro
  • CPU: 9750H
  • MB: OEM
  • RAM: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4 2666Mhz
  • GPU: RTX 2060 (Mobile)

Phone: Galaxy A54

Other: Nintendo Switch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Azurael said:

A smooth 60FPS on mid settings.

depends game, things like Celeron/Pentium even those that don't sell anymore can still run League of Legends,

 

because League of Legends is 10+ years old game,

 

8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

RIGHT NOW (thats the big thing) a i7 2600k can do it. I DO NOT give it more than a year before it can't. There are already games that don't work on that cpu and those are the real next gen titles

so game dependant, many games don't require strong CPU and won't really increase their demand for it over years

 

but there are things that come with having slow CPU with few/1 cores, for example you will experience more stutters, loadings will increase, and things like multitasking or even just playing YouTube in the background can be hurtful on performance

Edited by podkall
edit

Note: Users receive notifications after Mentions & Quotes. 

Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, podkall said:

because League of Legends is 10+ years old game,

I am talking about modern games.

My Main PC

  • CPU: 13700KF
  • Motherboard: MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk
  • RAM: 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5-6000MHz TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta
  • GPU: RTX 4070 ASUS Dual
  • Case: RAIDMAX X603
  • Storage: WD SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair RM850X Fully Modular
  • Cooling: DEEPCOOL LS720
  • Display(s): Gigabyte G24F2 & Dell S2318HN/NX
  • Keyboard: Logitech G512 Carbon (GX Blue)
  • Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero
  • Sound: Bose Headphone & Creative SBS260
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Pro

Laptop: Alienware m15 R1

  • OS: Windows 10 Pro
  • CPU: 9750H
  • MB: OEM
  • RAM: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4 2666Mhz
  • GPU: RTX 2060 (Mobile)

Phone: Galaxy A54

Other: Nintendo Switch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Azurael said:

Hyper Threading does not count when counting these 8 threads right?

Yes it does. that is why I am saying threads not cores.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, jaslion said:

RIGHT NOW (thats the big thing) a i7 2600k can do it. I DO NOT give it more than a year before it can't. There are already games that don't work on that cpu and those are the real next gen titles.

 

So basically to be windows 11 compatible AND be ok I'd say the minimum would be a ryzen 2600

The OP said "all of today's modern games" and "smooth 60fps on mid settings" - the 2600K doesn't cut it for Cyberpunk 2077, Warzone 2, Hogwarts Legacy, The Last of Us Part 1, and several others, even if overclocked to 4.4GHz.

 

It lasted for over a decade, but the 2600K's time as a gaming CPU that can handle anything has already died.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

An acquaintance of mine had been running a haggard old Phenom II x4 CPU until recently, when he upgraded to a Ryzen 5 5600.

 

The Phenom II was able to "run" many relatively modern games, up until probably the beginning of the PS5/XS generation. Due to it missing modern instruction sets, it's not capable of running current gen games I believe, at least not without serious workarounds.

Feasibly I'd assume the earliest AMD CPU that can run modern games is the FX 8000 series. For Intel, I wouldn't go with anything less than a Haswell i7. 

MAIN SYSTEM: Intel i9 10850K | 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR4-3600C16 | RTX 3070 FE | MSI Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI | Corsair H100i Pro 240mm AIO | 500GB Samsung 850 Evo + 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus SSDs | EVGA SuperNova 850 P2 | Fractal Design Meshify C | Razer Cynosa V2 | Corsair Scimitar Elite | Gigabyte G27Q

 

Other Devices: iPhone 12 128GB | Nintendo Switch | Surface Pro 7+ (work device)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

12 hours ago, Azurael said:

I am talking about modern games.

that depends what do you call a "modern game"

 

the equation is simple, newer games usually tend to be more demanding unless they are like esports title and even those get demanding

 

but if the game already exists, depending on the type of content that can be added the game can require same demand 10 years down the road, or it slowly increases it's demand, or it stays because there is no content being added

 

if you're curious you can try searching things like "random cheap CPU benchmark" and see if someone has recently tested it on something like Cyberpunk

 

let me give it a shot, I found this:

 

Note: Users receive notifications after Mentions & Quotes. 

Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×