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6 minutes ago, filpo said:

Get the 3100 for its better performance and more supported platform

While I agree that the 3100 is on a better platform and shouldn't hold back a GTX 1650, so would be my preferred pick as an upgrade to a 5600, 5700X, or 5800X3D in the future will be excellent, the i5 8400 is faster than the Ryzen 3 3100.

 

The 3100 is not the 3300X. The latency across the CCXs makes it much slower for gaming, and the i5 8400 does not have that issue. Additionally, 6c/6t generally performs similarly to 4c/8t in multicore situations. Paired with a GTX 1650, though, it will make no difference.

 

To the OP, get the Ryzen 3 3100 for the upgrade path potential. There really isn't anywhere to go on the old Intel platform, but if you go with the Ryzen 3 3100, then in a few years, you can upgrade to a much more powerful CPU easily and cheaply.

 

If you do, for whatever reason, decide to go Intel, absolutely get the i5 8400. It is way faster than the i3 9100F and has an iGPU included. But you should go Ryzen here.

1 minute ago, john b said:

Hi, all these cpus I can get for the same price which one should I get 

i5 8400

i3 9100f

ryzen 3 3100

 

my gpu is a 1650btw

Get the 3100 for its better performance and more supported platform

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Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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6 minutes ago, filpo said:

Get the 3100 for its better performance and more supported platform

While I agree that the 3100 is on a better platform and shouldn't hold back a GTX 1650, so would be my preferred pick as an upgrade to a 5600, 5700X, or 5800X3D in the future will be excellent, the i5 8400 is faster than the Ryzen 3 3100.

 

The 3100 is not the 3300X. The latency across the CCXs makes it much slower for gaming, and the i5 8400 does not have that issue. Additionally, 6c/6t generally performs similarly to 4c/8t in multicore situations. Paired with a GTX 1650, though, it will make no difference.

 

To the OP, get the Ryzen 3 3100 for the upgrade path potential. There really isn't anywhere to go on the old Intel platform, but if you go with the Ryzen 3 3100, then in a few years, you can upgrade to a much more powerful CPU easily and cheaply.

 

If you do, for whatever reason, decide to go Intel, absolutely get the i5 8400. It is way faster than the i3 9100F and has an iGPU included. But you should go Ryzen here.

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9 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

While I agree that the 3100 is on a better platform and shouldn't hold back a GTX 1650, so would be my preferred pick as an upgrade to a 5600, 5700X, or 5800X3D in the future will be excellent, the i5 8400 is faster than the Ryzen 3 3100.

 

The 3100 is not the 3300X. The latency across the CCXs makes it much slower for gaming, and the i5 8400 does not have that issue. Additionally, 6c/6t generally performs similarly to 4c/8t in multicore situations. Paired with a GTX 1650, though, it will make no difference.

 

To the OP, get the Ryzen 3 3100 for the upgrade path potential. There really isn't anywhere to go on the old Intel platform, but if you go with the Ryzen 3 3100, then in a few years, you can upgrade to a much more powerful CPU easily and cheaply.

 

If you do, for whatever reason, decide to go Intel, absolutely get the i5 8400. It is way faster than the i3 9100F and has an iGPU included. But you should go Ryzen here.

Yup agree

 

 

 

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Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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10 minutes ago, filpo said:

Yup agree

Why not use the forums functions to convey this, instead of an empty comment?

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9 minutes ago, HanZie82 said:

Why not use the forums functions to convey this, instead of an empty comment?

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Its cuz i accidentally posted a few pics of the 3100 against the 8400f but I reread the post and saw it wasn't that so just edited it

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Damn this space can fit a 5090 (just kidding, it needs more)

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5 minutes ago, filpo said:

Its cuz i accidentally posted a few pics of the 3100 against the 8400f but I reread the post and saw it wasn't that so just edited it

Ah gotcha, my bad.
I was expecting an "edited" addition, but thats not automagicly done on this forum.

When i ask for more specs, don't expect me to know the answer!
I'm just helping YOU to help YOURSELF!
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53 minutes ago, john b said:

Hi, all these cpus I can get for the same price which one should I get 

i5 8400

i3 9100f

ryzen 3 3100

 

my gpu is a 1650btw

Whats the price of those cpus?

3100 pricing tends to be very close to 4500 pricing which will be a ton faster cause more cores, for the cache deficit just buy some proper used rams (hma42gu6afr8n) and clock to 4000-4400 which will alleviate it

 

also what other existing parts, what budget, and what country?

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r5 2600 for sure

The 3400g is on the same architecture as the 2600 but has only 4 cores

And despite the 9100f being on a (slightly) better arch, it still has only 4 cores, which is quite diminishing by today's standards

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8 minutes ago, john b said:

I have a 1650 4GB GDDR6 which cpu should I get 

 

i3 9100f

ryzen 5 3400g

ryzen 5 2600

Which price/budget? And do you already have a compatible board?

Rly I won't take any if those but rather a 12100 or r5 5500

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39 minutes ago, john b said:

I didn’t ask for a recommendation. I asked which one is better 

The 2600 then

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13 minutes ago, john b said:

R5 2600x

or

i5 8400

probably i5, because the Ryzen 2000 generation is pretty much a waste of money. Although, if I were you, I'd just wait till I have enough money to buy a 3000 series Ryzen, as it is a whole lot better than both the i5 8400 and R5 2600x

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8 minutes ago, Space646 said:

probably i5, because the Ryzen 2000 generation is pretty much a waste of money. Although, if I were you, I'd just wait till I have enough money to buy a 3000 series Ryzen, as it is a whole lot better than both the i5 8400 and R5 2600x

What I'd say. It would also give them a better upgrade path in the future 

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25 minutes ago, john b said:

R5 2600x

or

i5 8400

If your only decision is between the AMD or Intel then I'd go for the i5 8400. Not really sure what was going on at AMD at that time but even on the newer process node and double the thread count the intel beats the 2600x in most cases.

 

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If you have to go with one of those, the 2600X, because it's stronger as an all-around option and has a way better upgrade path. The 8400 is often better if just gaming, but not always, and it has no real upgrade options worth considering except for the often overpriced 9900K, whereas the 2600X can be upgraded to a 5700X, 5800X3D, or 5950X down the line.

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1 hour ago, shoutingsteve said:

For crying out loud.

 

 

Also +1 on the 2600X, but honestly id try to hunt for a banger deal on Ryzen 5 3600 combo that pops from time to time than the 2600. It chugs on modern games.

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in todays standard, none

idk what motherboard you have but id say save up for a 5600, ill need to see ur other pc specs first tho

 

personaly i dont have much experience with intel, but i believe it is the i5 8500 thats fastest

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