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I'm debating whether to get it or not. So I have questions and hopefully you guys can convince me to get it or not...

 

1. If I do get it, it'll be teamed up with an AMD 6800 GPU, good combo?

 

2. I keep hearing about ppl undervolting the CPU, do I need to do this or can I rock it out of the box?  How easy is it to do and set up?

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4 minutes ago, Ragingsilver said:

I'm debating whether to get it or not. So I have questions and hopefully you guys can convince me to get it or not...

 

1. If I do get it, it'll be teamed up with an AMD 6800 GPU, good combo?

 

2. I keep hearing about ppl undervolting the CPU, do I need to do this or can I rock it out of the box?  How easy is it to do and set up?

1. yes

2. Just update bios if on a older AM4 board and run at stock. Make sure you got a decent cooler.

3. edit: Also depends if you already got, motherboard and ram. If not, I would get AM5 + 7800X3D if you got the cash

Gaming PC:

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: Crucial 2x16gb, 3200  JEDEC. | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Asus Prime RTX 5070ti OC| Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: Kingston Renegade 2TB and Corsair MP510 960gb | Cooling: CPU: Alphacool ST30 420mm rad, Alphacool CPU and GPU Core LT and Core blocks, D5 pump and res combo 

 

Linux PC:

CPU: Ryzen 7700| Motherboard: Asus A620M-CSM | RAM: Crucial Pro 2x48gb, 5600  JEDEC. | PSU: Corsair CX750 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: MSI Gaming X RTX 3090 | Case: Lian Li Dan Cases A3-mATX black |Storage: SN7100 2TB + Samsung 860 EVO 512gb | Cooling: CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin Mini Fan(s): Noctua 1x NF-A14x25 Chromax

 

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9 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

1. yes

2. Just update bios if on a older AM4 board and run at stock. Make sure you got a decent cooler.

3. edit: Also depends if you already got, motherboard and ram. If not, I would get AM5 + 7800X3D if you got the cash

Thanks for quick reply. Yeah I def have to update the BIOS, I stopped it on purpose before the windows 11 BIOS, I didn't want my PC prompting me to install Win 11 all the time.

 

I plan to team the CPU up with the noctua U12A cooler. I got a meshify case with lots of fans inside, hopefully should be enough.

 

Edit: I could get an AM5 and 7800X3D but I'd rather save a bit of cash and make the most out of the AM4 mobo I got now.

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5 minutes ago, Ragingsilver said:

Thanks for quick reply. Yeah I def have to update the BIOS, I stopped it on purpose before the windows 11 BIOS, I didn't want my PC prompting me to install Win 11 all the time.

I plan to team the CPU up with the noctua U12A cooler. I got a meshify case with lots of fans inside, hopefully should be enough.

That'll be fine. BIOS don't have anything to do with windows 11. You'll have to go to your motherboards support page to get it.

Temps should be about the same, using two fans: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/25.html

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Gaming PC:

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: Crucial 2x16gb, 3200  JEDEC. | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Asus Prime RTX 5070ti OC| Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: Kingston Renegade 2TB and Corsair MP510 960gb | Cooling: CPU: Alphacool ST30 420mm rad, Alphacool CPU and GPU Core LT and Core blocks, D5 pump and res combo 

 

Linux PC:

CPU: Ryzen 7700| Motherboard: Asus A620M-CSM | RAM: Crucial Pro 2x48gb, 5600  JEDEC. | PSU: Corsair CX750 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: MSI Gaming X RTX 3090 | Case: Lian Li Dan Cases A3-mATX black |Storage: SN7100 2TB + Samsung 860 EVO 512gb | Cooling: CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin Mini Fan(s): Noctua 1x NF-A14x25 Chromax

 

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10 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

That'll be fine. BIOS don't have anything to do with windows 11. You'll have to go to your motherboards support page to get it.

Temps should be about the same, using two fans: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/25.html

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82 degrees on load!!!

 

but I guess that doesn't reflect real world usage. I'm just not used to seeing those high temps. I remember when hitting 90 was "bad". These days it seems to be the norm haha

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3 minutes ago, Ragingsilver said:

82 degrees on load but I guess that doesn't reflect real world usage. I'm just not used to seeing those high temps. I remember when hitting 90 was "bad". These days it seems to be the norm haha

Oh I did the comparison with U12S, not A. May expect slightly worse temps. 5800X3D does respond very good to different coolers though, and will adjust boost accordingly. 

Gaming PC:

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: Crucial 2x16gb, 3200  JEDEC. | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Asus Prime RTX 5070ti OC| Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: Kingston Renegade 2TB and Corsair MP510 960gb | Cooling: CPU: Alphacool ST30 420mm rad, Alphacool CPU and GPU Core LT and Core blocks, D5 pump and res combo 

 

Linux PC:

CPU: Ryzen 7700| Motherboard: Asus A620M-CSM | RAM: Crucial Pro 2x48gb, 5600  JEDEC. | PSU: Corsair CX750 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: MSI Gaming X RTX 3090 | Case: Lian Li Dan Cases A3-mATX black |Storage: SN7100 2TB + Samsung 860 EVO 512gb | Cooling: CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin Mini Fan(s): Noctua 1x NF-A14x25 Chromax

 

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3 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Oh I did the comparison with U12S, not A. May expect slightly worse temps. 5800X3D does respond very good to different coolers though, and will adjust boost accordingly. 

oh I thought the A was better than the S?  It's newer and apparently performs like the 14.

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5 minutes ago, Ragingsilver said:

oh I thought the A was better than the S?  It's newer and apparently performs like the 14.

You're right! 

Gaming PC:

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: Crucial 2x16gb, 3200  JEDEC. | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Asus Prime RTX 5070ti OC| Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: Kingston Renegade 2TB and Corsair MP510 960gb | Cooling: CPU: Alphacool ST30 420mm rad, Alphacool CPU and GPU Core LT and Core blocks, D5 pump and res combo 

 

Linux PC:

CPU: Ryzen 7700| Motherboard: Asus A620M-CSM | RAM: Crucial Pro 2x48gb, 5600  JEDEC. | PSU: Corsair CX750 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: MSI Gaming X RTX 3090 | Case: Lian Li Dan Cases A3-mATX black |Storage: SN7100 2TB + Samsung 860 EVO 512gb | Cooling: CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin Mini Fan(s): Noctua 1x NF-A14x25 Chromax

 

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On 4/25/2023 at 3:10 PM, Ragingsilver said:

oh I thought the A was better than the S?  It's newer and apparently performs like the 14.

Just getting back to you to say, maybe try out PBO enabled and set to advanced. Set curve optimizer to Negative: 30 (aka -30) to get lower load vcore. Mine is stable at 4450mhz vs 4250mhz stock all cores at 1.137v on full load and this did cut the power consumption by 15W, lowering the max temp to ~ 80C vs 90C in Cinebench R23 with NH-D15 with a single fan.

Gaming PC:

CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Elite V2 | RAM: Crucial 2x16gb, 3200  JEDEC. | PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: Asus Prime RTX 5070ti OC| Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K | Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout |Storage: Kingston Renegade 2TB and Corsair MP510 960gb | Cooling: CPU: Alphacool ST30 420mm rad, Alphacool CPU and GPU Core LT and Core blocks, D5 pump and res combo 

 

Linux PC:

CPU: Ryzen 7700| Motherboard: Asus A620M-CSM | RAM: Crucial Pro 2x48gb, 5600  JEDEC. | PSU: Corsair CX750 | Monitor: LG 27GL850-B , Samsung C27HG70 | 
GPU: MSI Gaming X RTX 3090 | Case: Lian Li Dan Cases A3-mATX black |Storage: SN7100 2TB + Samsung 860 EVO 512gb | Cooling: CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin Mini Fan(s): Noctua 1x NF-A14x25 Chromax

 

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I did some research on this underclocking thing. I watched this video...

 

Is what he did in the BIO the same thing as that PBO2 tuner app?  I got a ASUS TUF X570-PLUS GAMING mobo which supposedly has it.

 

So I don't need to use the app and do all that scheduling set up?

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Here is mine after a quick R23 run.. 

 

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