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On 3/24/2023 at 3:59 PM, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

The Tamil vowel sign is this: 

This is not the same thing as ௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌ

Its an artifact of normalization and that language

That language(Tamil) you can normalize a bunch of sounds together into one character. Unicode just has no idea how to do it for that sequence so it puts out each individual part of it. you notice that circle in the middle is its failed attempt to combine them. Its a fall back/fail safe when building unknown sounds to just have it remain expanded.

Simple example to explain what I mean 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul_Jamo_(Unicode_block)

This block is a bunch of sounds and you can normalize them/combine them into the entire Hangul (korean) dictionary.

So like 가 is ACTUALLY two characters in one normalized character of ᄀ and ᅡ    and if you ever put those two syllables together they form the initial word as it normalizes it.

Simpler example are accented letters

Á can be made with two Unicode characters, A Normalized with the accent
when normalization fails it will display as A◌́

However because Á is such a common character it just exists. however you can also just put ◌́ on almost any character. 


https://unicode.org/reports/tr15/ For more in-depth information, have fun. Learned all this when having an import bug with Hangul and normalization broke 

Important part to highlight as you can see what I mean (god have mercy on whoever wrote that webpage jumping between normalization protocols mid sentence constantly)

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So apparently this is a single character. I guess it's the widest character? What does it mean? What language is it in? Why was it created? Is it UTF-8, Unicode? I need to know!

 

 ௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌ

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Google is a very useful tool, cataloguing many different websites and spitting out the most relevant ones for a given query. If you copy and paste your own title question, unedited, directly into google, the first result will be this site: https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Unicode/whatisit.html. You then paste the character in and it identifies it: 

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It is in fact not a single character, but multiple repeats of a Tamil vowel sign. A google search for "Tamil Vowel" will return this wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_script. Which explains that the vowel sign is part of the written script for the Tamil language, which wikipedia itself links in case you wanted to read more about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language

 

I always recommend googling something before posting to the forums, as you can see above you can find an answer for most casual questions very quickly. 

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1 hour ago, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

The Tamil vowel sign is this: 

This is not the same thing as ௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌ

Yes. This:

U+0BC6 : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN E

is indeed not the same as this:  ௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌ

U+0020 : SPACE [SP]
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU
U+0BCC : TAMIL VOWEL SIGN AU

You have correctly deduced that the Tamil Vowel Sign E is indeed different to the Tamil Vowel Sign AU repeated 22 times with a space at the beginning.

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On 3/24/2023 at 3:59 PM, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

The Tamil vowel sign is this: 

This is not the same thing as ௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌ

Its an artifact of normalization and that language

That language(Tamil) you can normalize a bunch of sounds together into one character. Unicode just has no idea how to do it for that sequence so it puts out each individual part of it. you notice that circle in the middle is its failed attempt to combine them. Its a fall back/fail safe when building unknown sounds to just have it remain expanded.

Simple example to explain what I mean 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul_Jamo_(Unicode_block)

This block is a bunch of sounds and you can normalize them/combine them into the entire Hangul (korean) dictionary.

So like 가 is ACTUALLY two characters in one normalized character of ᄀ and ᅡ    and if you ever put those two syllables together they form the initial word as it normalizes it.

Simpler example are accented letters

Á can be made with two Unicode characters, A Normalized with the accent
when normalization fails it will display as A◌́

However because Á is such a common character it just exists. however you can also just put ◌́ on almost any character. 


https://unicode.org/reports/tr15/ For more in-depth information, have fun. Learned all this when having an import bug with Hangul and normalization broke 

Important part to highlight as you can see what I mean (god have mercy on whoever wrote that webpage jumping between normalization protocols mid sentence constantly)

 image.png.66fac04f25d193d7e2dbd73bf11333d9.png

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15 hours ago, starsmine said:

Its an artifact of normalization and that language

That language(Tamil) you can normalize a bunch of sounds together into one character. Unicode just has no idea how to do it for that sequence so it puts out each individual part of it. you notice that circle in the middle is its failed attempt to combine them. Its a fall back/fail safe when building unknown sounds to just have it remain expanded.

Simple example to explain what I mean 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul_Jamo_(Unicode_block)

This block is a bunch of sounds and you can normalize them/combine them into the entire Hangul (korean) dictionary.

So like 가 is ACTUALLY two characters in one normalized character of ᄀ and ᅡ    and if you ever put those two syllables together they form the initial word as it normalizes it.

Simpler example are accented letters

Á can be made with two Unicode characters, A Normalized with the accent
when normalization fails it will display as A◌́

However because Á is such a common character it just exists. however you can also just put ◌́ on almost any character. 


https://unicode.org/reports/tr15/ For more in-depth information, have fun. Learned all this when having an import bug with Hangul and normalization broke 

Important part to highlight as you can see what I mean (god have mercy on whoever wrote that webpage jumping between normalization protocols mid sentence constantly)

 image.png.66fac04f25d193d7e2dbd73bf11333d9.png

How do I make a bigger character for an annoying username in games? 😂

Omg, it's a signature!

 

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4 minutes ago, WildDagwood said:

You start by asking yourself why you want to intentionally annoy people, for no reason. Then, you go to hell 😉.

 

Also, kudos to the mod that edited the title. You're doing god's work, lol.

I edited the title. And its not like its really going to affect game play. 

Omg, it's a signature!

 

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1 minute ago, WildDagwood said:

Depends on what you consider gameplay, but it can still potentially affect other things in the game, causing annoyance.

 

Hell, even the original title for this (thanks for changing it) was impacting the forum with the character bleeding outside the normal borders and making the page scrollable for no reason. Not a huge deal, but it does make scrolling on mobile more annoying if you're not careful in your swipe direction.

 

Point is, people shouldn't be trying to intentionally annoy/grieve others, outside of stupid jokes amongst friends.

I will use my own discernment as to how it affects gameplay. And make sure to test it before I join a match. My intent is to not obstruct anyone elses vision in a game, but for them to look at my name tag and think: wtf? And of course its funny when it flows off the side of the screen when listing players' teams during the beginning and end of the game. I would never use this in ranked play of any kind. Again, my intent is to not exploit, but to hear other players' confused  reactions when they see my username for my own entertainment. Again, I will/do not exploit or intend to make the game any less fun. But just to give people another thing to laugh about. 🙂

 

About the forums:

Sorry, I'm on pc. It just put a dot dot dot (...) after it ran out of space in the old title. It was not my intention to annoy anyone on the forums.

Omg, it's a signature!

 

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14 minutes ago, My_Computer_Is_Trash said:

I will use my own discernment as to how it affects gameplay. And make sure to test it before I join a match. My intent is to not obstruct anyone elses vision in a game, but for them to look at my name tag and think: wtf? And of course its funny when it flows off the side of the screen when listing players' teams during the beginning and end of the game. I would never use this in ranked play of any kind. Again, my intent is to not exploit, but to hear other players' confused  reactions when they see my username for my own entertainment. Again, I will/do not exploit or intend to make the game any less fun. But just to give people another thing to laugh about. 🙂

I don't mind players with Unicode chars for names,
but for me, they are very forgettable (I don't even try memorizing) and not entertaining. 
If we play a match and then an hour later matchmaking puts us together, chances are you will be just a random unicode dude and I won't remember I played with/against you.


I will easily remember something like "Jack Mehoff" (and find it funny, yes I know not very mature of me). Though I'm sure there are people out there who will find it lame or offensive or whatever.


Anyhow, humor/tastes differ is all I wanted to say. 😀

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