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which one is better 13980HX VS 13950HX

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3 minutes ago, BradfordD said:

Do you think I should spend the extra money or save a buck. thank you for the info.

You'd have to ask Razer support, their specs are confusing. They have the 80HX down as having less cache than the lower SKU 50HX for some reason: 

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Assuming that's a derp and everything else is the same on both laptops... I see no reason 100Mhz higher boost (usually imperceptible, you need 200-300Mhz lead to even start noticing a difference at all) would be worth $500. The price difference being that massive makes me think there must be something else that's different about the laptops. 

 

I would question that laptop altogether honestly. Razer needs to provide actual detail on the configuration of them. Notebookcheck's review model only had a 4070 and it peaked at 100W: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer-Blade-18-laptop-review-Smaller-than-many-17-inch-gaming-laptops.694686.0.html. If the 4090 is choked down to a similar power target it will be massively slower than it should be. I can't find a good written review of one with a 4090. The Verge has one with a 4080 but they don't seem to say anything about the wattage it runs at from my skim of their review: https://www.theverge.com/23595235/razer-blade-18-2023-review-specs-13th-gen-performance-nvidia-rtx-4080-qhd-gaming-laptop

 

I am buying a new laptop and there are two chips one with the 80HX and the other with the 50HX CPU is there going to be that much of a difference that a gamer might notice. I could all ways upgrade the ram later. Should I spend the extra money. 

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Intel's ARK database has a nice compare function that highlights differences in blue: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=232138,232149

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Looks like the 80HX has Thermal Velocity Boost and thus can clock a bit higher depending on temp. Other than that they seem identical, same cache, power target, turbo boost clock, everything. The 50HX supports ECC memory and the 80HX doesn't... I guess they must put the 50HX in some mobile workstations or something. 

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Do you think I should spend the extra money or save a buck. thank you for the info.

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7 minutes ago, BradfordD said:

Do you think I should spend the extra money or save a buck. thank you for the info.

I'd save the money, the performance difference will be extremely small.

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3 minutes ago, BradfordD said:

Do you think I should spend the extra money or save a buck. thank you for the info.

You'd have to ask Razer support, their specs are confusing. They have the 80HX down as having less cache than the lower SKU 50HX for some reason: 

1700323659_ScreenShot2023-03-15at6_03_02PM.thumb.png.ef1a9c640d9cab99e729275317f5dd31.png

 

Assuming that's a derp and everything else is the same on both laptops... I see no reason 100Mhz higher boost (usually imperceptible, you need 200-300Mhz lead to even start noticing a difference at all) would be worth $500. The price difference being that massive makes me think there must be something else that's different about the laptops. 

 

I would question that laptop altogether honestly. Razer needs to provide actual detail on the configuration of them. Notebookcheck's review model only had a 4070 and it peaked at 100W: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Razer-Blade-18-laptop-review-Smaller-than-many-17-inch-gaming-laptops.694686.0.html. If the 4090 is choked down to a similar power target it will be massively slower than it should be. I can't find a good written review of one with a 4090. The Verge has one with a 4080 but they don't seem to say anything about the wattage it runs at from my skim of their review: https://www.theverge.com/23595235/razer-blade-18-2023-review-specs-13th-gen-performance-nvidia-rtx-4080-qhd-gaming-laptop

 

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There's a thumb rule (i made, lol) for Intel Chips:
Same Core Count & same TDP Class = Same Chip.

 

This one will not "have 100 Mhz more", it is allowed to boost 100 Mhz higher, as long Power Limit and Thermal Limit allow it. If the Device is hot, it probably won't boost as much.

And that 5,6 Ghz vs. 5,5 Ghz is probably only a very short Burst when you start an application for example.

 

You won't ever feel this difference, not even in 10 years. Even if you use heavy Applications.

Maybe you can measure an ever so slight difference in Benchmarks, when you actually get Numbers to compare. But without numbers you will never notice anything.

 

 

TL;DR: Not even worth 50 Dollar tbh.

But you do get 64gb RAM too, maybe other differences. But tbh, i'd save the money. Maybe even go down further in specs.

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On 3/15/2023 at 6:13 PM, Zando_ said:

If the 4090 is choked down to a similar power target it will be massively slower than it should be. I can't find a good written review of one with a 4090.

Note on this, and bit of a necro, but if you haven't decided yet, LTT did get one with a 4090:

Goes up to 175W which is Nvidia's limit.

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