Front USB compatibility

[MarcusHuddinge]

I have a Define R5 case with two USB 2.0 and two 3.0 ports. I've just bought a new Z790 motherboard which doesn't have any USB 3.0 headers. The USB 2.0 ports will obviously work as there are two USB 2.0 headers. But can i make the USB 3.0 ports on my case work through either of the F_U32 or F_C32C ports? Is either of them compatible or do i need to get some kind of an adapter?

[Middcore]

A brand new board has USB2 headers but not USB3???

[Eigenvektor]

6 minutes ago, MarcusHuddinge said:

I have a Define R5 case with two USB 2.0 and two 3.0 ports. I've just bought a new Z790 motherboard which doesn't have any USB 3.0 headers. The USB 2.0 ports will obviously work as there are two USB 2.0 headers. But can i make the USB 3.0 ports on my case work through either of the F_U32 or F_C32C ports? Is either of them compatible or do i need to get some kind of an adapter?

USB 3.2 Gen 1 is the same as USB 3.0

 

Cases don't really have USB versions. If its plug fits into the motherboard, the case will have whatever USB version the motherboard provides through that header.

 

1 minute ago, Middcore said:

A brand new board has USB2 headers but not USB3???

That's what the specs say:

2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers support additional 4 USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports
2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 4 USB 2.0

[MarcusHuddinge]

Just now, Middcore said:

A brand new board has USB2 headers but not USB3???

It has the F_U32 and F_U32C headers which are USB 3.2. Idk if they're compatible with my case's USB 3.0 front panel cable

[Middcore]

4 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

That's what the specs say:

2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers support additional 4 USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports
2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 4 USB 2.0

That's not the board he has. The Gigabyte "ultra durable" branding is clearly visible in his first pic.

 

@MarcusHuddinge, what is the specific model of your motherboard? 

[MarcusHuddinge]

3 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

USB 3.2 Gen 1 is the same as USB 3.0

 

Cases don't really have USB versions. If its plug fits into the motherboard, the case will have whatever USB version the motherboard provides through that header.

 

That's what the specs say:

2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers support additional 4 USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports
2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 4 USB 2.0

So my Fractal Design Define R5's front panel cable leading to the USB 3.0 ports will plugin to the F_U32 header on the motherboard?

[MarcusHuddinge]

Just now, Middcore said:

That's not the board he has. The Gigabyte "ultra durable" branding is clearly visible in his first pic.

 

@MarcusHuddinge, what is the specific model of your motherboard? 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-D-DDR4-rev-10

[Eigenvektor]

6 minutes ago, Middcore said:

That's not the board he has. The Gigabyte "ultra durable" branding is clearly visible in his first pic.

Yeah… don't know why I linked that board

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-D-DDR4-rev-10/sp#sp

 

1 x USB Type-C^® port with USB 3.2 Gen 1 support, available through the internal USB header

6 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports (4 ports on the back panel, 2 ports available through the internal USB header)

 

If I'm not mistaken your case should have the necessary plug for the non-USB-C header, so F_U32 (Front USB 3.2)

[Poinkachu]

10 minutes ago, MarcusHuddinge said:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-D-DDR4-rev-10

You have 2x USB 3 headers. One on the bottom, one on the left.
Bleh, I saw wrong, sorry.
1 Header

[MarcusHuddinge]

7 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Yeah… don't know why I linked that board

 

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-D-DDR4-rev-10/sp#sp

 

1 x USB Type-C^® port with USB 3.2 Gen 1 support, available through the internal USB header

6 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports (4 ports on the back panel, 2 ports available through the internal USB header)

 

If I'm not mistaken your case should have the necessary plug for the non-USB-C header, so F_U32 (Front USB 3.2)

These should be the headers on my current Z170 board. Does the same cable plugin to these and the header on my new Z790 motherboard?

Current board should be a GA-Z170X Gaming 3 i think. It's the "World of Tanks" themed board

[Poinkachu]

3 minutes ago, MarcusHuddinge said:

These should be the headers on my current Z170 board. Does the same cable plugin to these and the header on my new Z790 motherboard?

Current board should be a GA-Z170X Gaming 3 i think. It's the "World of Tanks" themed board

Yes. F_U32 . You should read the writing in the header instead that says USB3.2

 

Or refer to manual :

[MarcusHuddinge]

3 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Yes. F_U32 . You should read the writing in the header instead that says USB3.2

Yea i know it says USB 3.2. That's why i'm not sure if it's the same contact/header as the ones that say 3.0 on my old motherboard. I don't wanna risk trying to ram the wrong contact into my USB-header and wreck all the pins.
But you're certain they're the same and it will fit?

[Poinkachu]

3 minutes ago, MarcusHuddinge said:

Yea i know it says USB 3.2. That's why i'm not sure if it's the same contact/header as the ones that say 3.0 on my old motherboard. I don't wanna risk trying to ram the wrong contact into my USB-header and wreck all the pins.
But you're certain they're the same and it will fit?

It is the same. 3.2 just a newer generation of USB3 (faster speed)

That 1 USB3 header will work for 2 USB3 ports. as stated in the manual.

 

F_U32C is for Type-E connector for USB-C. You can convert it to USB3 header if you use adapter

[MarcusHuddinge]

4 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

It is the same. 3.2 just a newer generation of USB3 (faster speed)

F_U32C is for USB-C. You can convert it to USB3 header if you use adapter

Alright, thank you. Does this mean those two ports on my case will get a speed upgrade after i switch parts?

[Poinkachu]

5 minutes ago, MarcusHuddinge said:

Alright, thank you. Does this mean those two ports on my case will get a speed upgrade after i switch parts?

Should be. ?

I'm not entirely savvy on USB damned gen speed due to their naming changes throughout the years.
@Eigenvektor care to give insight ?
 

[MarcusHuddinge]

12 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Should be. ?

I'm not entirely savvy on USB damned gen speed due to their naming changes throughout the years.
@Eigenvektor care to give insight ?
 

Would be nice i guess, but in practice it's not really gonna make any difference anyways. All the files i transfer off of my computer using those ports are on mechanical hard drives so i only get 200-300 megabyte per second anyways. But as long as the case's cable fits in the port and it works i'm satisfied

That's also the reason i picked this specific motherboard btw, my hard drives. All Z790 motherboards only have 4 SATA ports unless you go up quite a bit in price, but then when i had given up on getting a 6 SATA port motherboard i randomly stumbled upon this one which was among the cheapest and also had 6 SATA ports so i had to go for it

[Poinkachu]

Just now, MarcusHuddinge said:

Would be nice i guess, but in practice it's not really gonna make any difference anyways. All the files i transfer off of my computer using those ports are on mechanical hard drives so i only get 200-300 megabyte per second anyways. But as long as the case's cable fits in the port and it works i'm satisfied

That's also the reason i picked this specific motherboard btw, my hard drives. All Z790 motherboards only have 4 SATA ports unless you go up quite a bit in price, but then when i had given up on getting a 6 SATA port motherboard i randomly stumbled upon this one which was among the cheapest and also had 6 SATA ports so i had to go for it

Yeah, it pretty much depends on the device you connect to it.

But yes, the header is the same 19pins header. Just be careful when plugging & unplugging it, USb3 headers is not known for it's sturdiness.

[MarcusHuddinge]

5 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Yeah, it pretty much depends on the device you connect to it.

But yes, the header is the same 19pins header. Just be careful when plugging & unplugging it, USb3 headers is not known for it's sturdiness.

Alright thanks for the help guys

[Eigenvektor]

39 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

Should be. ?

I'm not entirely savvy on USB damned gen speed due to their naming changes throughout the years.
@Eigenvektor care to give insight ?

Not really, unfortunately. USB 3.0 and USB 3.2 Gen 1 has the same speed.

Speed   | Name            | Previous names
5  Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 1x1 | USB 3.1 Gen 1, USB 3.0
10 Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 | USB 3.1 Gen 2
10 Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 1x2 |
20 Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 |

 

[MarcusHuddinge]

14 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Not really, unfortunately. USB 3.0 and USB 3.2 Gen 1 has the same speed.

Speed   | Name            | Previous names
5  Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 1x1 | USB 3.1 Gen 1, USB 3.0
10 Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 | USB 3.1 Gen 2
10 Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 1x2 |
20 Gbps | USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 |

 

So the F_U32 and F_U32C headers on my new Z790 motherboard are literally just the same old USB 3.0 but with the new absolute trash naming scheme? lol
Look at the unnecessary confusion these morons are creating...