Intel i7 13700k vs Ryzen 7800x3d new builing

[Shohan000]

Will i get 7800x3d at the close price of intel i7 13th gen.

And will it perform better in productivity. (As intel perform much more better then 7700x 7600x).

Should i w8 and see  .

If intel the much better choose for work station and gaming i will order the intel ddr5 ram today.

 

[PDifolco]

3 minutes ago, Shohan000 said:

Will i get 7800x3d at the close price of intel i7 13th gen.

And will it perform better in productivity. (As intel perform much more better then 7700x 7600x).

Should i w8 and see  .

If intel the much better choose for work station and gaming i will order the intel ddr5 ram today.

 

There's a good part of speculation, but :

- 7800X3D will perform in games similarly to a 7950X (give or take a couple frames)  so say max 10% over a 13700K

- But outside of gaming 7800X3D will be 8P cores to 8P+8E cores; let's consider PCores are equivalent, E cores worth 70% of Pcores, then 13700k will be 70% more powerful

- 7800X3D will be $450 to $400 for a 13700k

Not even counting that 13700k will have OC room and can have faster RAM, seems 13700k wins easily on perf/price, but will be a tad behind in gaming ...

[JimTheBeet]

11 minutes ago, Shohan000 said:

Will i get 7800x3d at the close price of intel i7 13th gen.

And will it perform better in productivity. (As intel perform much more better then 7700x 7600x).

Should i w8 and see  .

If intel the much better choose for work station and gaming i will order the intel ddr5 ram today.

 

The two cpus will probably be selling for about the same price when the 7800x3d comes out (+/- $50). The intell chip will very likely perform better in productivity-focused tasks, and the 7800x3d will likely perform much better in gaming (many reviewers are predicting it'll be close to the 7950x3d). It depends on what your priorities are, but if you care much about gaming performance, I'd wait the extra couple of months and see how the x3d performs. From there, you can make the decision about gaming vs productivity and value.

[Shohan000]

8 minutes ago, JimTheBeet said:

The two cpus will probably be selling for about the same price when the 7800x3d comes out (+/- $50). The intell chip will very likely perform better in productivity-focused tasks, and the 7800x3d will likely perform much better in gaming (many reviewers are predicting it'll be close to the 7950x3d). It depends on what your priorities are, but if you care much about gaming performance, I'd wait the extra couple of months and see how the x3d performs. From there, you can make the decision about gaming vs productivity and value.

But i dont want w8 that much time.

If 7800x3d dont Perform 7700x in productivity  i would like to buy it

[Shohan000]

9 minutes ago, JimTheBeet said:

The two cpus will probably be selling for about the same price when the 7800x3d comes out (+/- $50). The intell chip will very likely perform better in productivity-focused tasks, and the 7800x3d will likely perform much better in gaming (many reviewers are predicting it'll be close to the 7950x3d). It depends on what your priorities are, but if you care much about gaming performance, I'd wait the extra couple of months and see how the x3d performs. From there, you can make the decision about gaming vs productivity and value.

 

11 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

There's a good part of speculation, but :

- 7800X3D will perform in games similarly to a 7950X (give or take a couple frames)  so say max 10% over a 13700K

- But outside of gaming 7800X3D will be 8P cores to 8P+8E cores; let's consider PCores are equivalent, E cores worth 70% of Pcores, then 13700k will be 70% more powerful

- 7800X3D will be $450 to $400 for a 13700k

Not even counting that 13700k will have OC room and can have faster RAM, seems 13700k wins easily on perf/price, but will be a tad behind in gaming ...

If what you are saying intel performing 70% better then 7800x3d which is hard to believe. And if i can get besically same performance in gaming .then intel is surely the best choose .also i am beginner. As i will not know Much difference. I whould like to learn blender ,photo or video editing.

[JimTheBeet]

2 minutes ago, Shohan000 said:

But i dont want w8 that much time.

If 7800x3d dont Perform 7700x in productivity  i would like to buy it

Depends on when you need the parts! If you have a perfectly functional pc right now, I see no harm in patience. On the other hand, if gaming isn't your priority, then you won't regret your purchase (and you lkely won't even if it is you priority - cpu is not the main factor for gaming performance). It's up to you!

[PDifolco]

1 minute ago, Shohan000 said:

 

If what you are saying intel performing 70% better then 7800x3d which is hard to believe. And if i can get besically same performance in gaming .then intel is surely the best choose .also i am beginner. As i will not know Much difference. I whould like to learn blender ,photo or video editing.

Indeed it's a huge gap, but that's what happens when 8 fast cores + 8 slower ones  go against just 8 fast cores (and the 3D cores will be slower than Intel's PCores)

Gaming wise at 1080p 7950X3D is currently ahead of 13900K by an overall 6% to 9% margin, so I expect that 7800X3D vs 13700K will be more or less the same

5 minutes ago, Shohan000 said:

But i dont want w8 that much time.

If 7800x3d dont Perform 7700x in productivity  i would like to buy it

In productivity 7800X3D will likely be 5-10% lower than a 7700X due to lower clock (and not much effect from cache except in  few apps)

[Shohan000]

Just now, JimTheBeet said:

Depends on when you need the parts! If you have a perfectly functional pc right now, I see no harm in patience. On the other hand, if gaming isn't your priority, then you won't regret your purchase (and you lkely won't even if it is you priority - cpu is not the main factor for gaming performance). It's up to you!

I am builing new.and i would like To Get rtx 4080 or 7900xtx few month later(7900xtx less likely)

[Ebony Falcon]

Intel dominate productivity, go check hardware unboxed review of the 7950x3d as they simulated a 7800x3d 

 

 

[Shohan000]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

In productivity 7800X3D will likely be 5-10% lower than a 7700X due to lower clock (and not much effect from cache except in  few apps)

The  i7 13th gen clearly my choose? If it lower then 7700x. And will i see any difference in editing ,3d rendering .

As i am full  new

[Shohan000]

1 minute ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Intel dominate productivity, go check hardware unboxed review of the 7950x3d as they simulated a 7800x3d 

 

 

I show some girl youtube video seeing 7900x3d or 7950x3d performing better is some productivity benchmark

[PDifolco]

1 minute ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Intel dominate productivity, go check hardware unboxed review of the 7950x3d as they simulated a 7800x3d 

 

 

Nope, 7950X is the real productivity king, it's as fast as a 13900K and 20% more efficient...

[WereCat]

7 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Nope, 7950X is the real productivity king, it's as fast as a 13900K and 20% more efficient...

That's not what he said though. Read again, they simulated 7800X3D so you can get an estimate of an actual 7800X3D performance in both gaming and productivity.

 

Yes, it's a 7950X3D but with the non-3D VCache part disabled

[Ebony Falcon]

22 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Nope, 7950X is the real productivity king, it's as fast as a 13900K and 20% more efficient...

He’s not on about either of those cpus tho is he 

he’s taking about a 7700x with b cache which will do fuck all for productivity 

and the 13700k which is way ahead of the 7700x

[Mister Woof]

5 minutes ago, MikadoWu said:

Gamers Nexus posted his review this week.  I would trust this over Hardware Unboxed all day, every day.

HUB does one thing well - they have huge tests suites. Often that is very useful. GN's problem is their suite for games is puny. I don't think any of them publishes bad data. It's just what data they have and how you apply it to your decision making.

[Mister Woof]

11 minutes ago, MikadoWu said:

You can publish all the games you want...  99.9% of the games suffer the same software limitation of not taking advantage of the hardware.  You do not need to review all 200 games using the same Gaming Engine.

 

These test love to use i9-xxxx and GeForce xx90 cards and 4k monitors.  Yet less the .5% of the gaming community use these setups.  Top end CPUs are not the bottleneck.

 

FTR, I love Monitors Unboxed, not a fan of Hardware Unboxed. Many of the statements to not align with general users. Yes, same guys.

Both HUB and GN tests CPUs at 1080p with a 4090 (to actually measure CPU performance, not GPU limits)....where are you getting 4k?

[PDifolco]

50 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Both HUB and GN tests CPUs at 1080p with a 4090 (to actually measure CPU performance, not GPU limits)....where are you getting 4k?

Also saw a 25 games 1080 1440p and 4K review at Techtesters (nice Dutch channel, in English, plus the gal is cute...  )

 

[Shohan000]

On 2/28/2023 at 9:21 PM, MikadoWu said:

I the end... you are never going to notice the difference in gaming between these 2 processors.  Great, one gives you 240fps and the other 244, which are both above and beyond what you can see.  Here is the thing... the 4080 will not saturate the PCIe lanes.  You will replace the GPU long before you need to replace the either CPU.  My old i7-3770 went through 4 CPUs before I retired her and the most recent one a 2060 is in my new box. Old cards where an ATI Radeon, Geforce 260ti, Geforce 660ti and then the 2060.

 

Reminder, Games are still mostly programed for the weakest computer, which still use SATA drives and PCIE3 x4 lanes.  Only 1 game presently support MS Direct Storage.  Very few truly take advantage of all the extra Cores, M.2 and all the other toys in your computer.

 

Benchmarks are cool and all, but reality is different.  This is why the i5 is often the gamers choice of CPU.

 

Pick the one that makes you happy... for me it was the i7-13700k and I do more production than gaming.

 

Thank you

From  Beginning i was amd fanboy .as people saying ryzen is better value for productivity and gaming.and it has 5 nm.so i wanted to build my first pc with it

[Shohan000]

And thank you all this forum is really Helpful.unlike facebook where people only give nonsense tip and idea.like they are building for them.in quora or reddit people dont even reply

[Fendrick]

On 2/28/2023 at 3:21 PM, MikadoWu said:

I the end... you are never going to notice the difference in gaming between these 2 processors.  Great, one gives you 240fps and the other 244, which are both above and beyond what you can see.  Here is the thing... the 4080 will not saturate the PCIe lanes.  You will replace the GPU long before you need to replace the either CPU.  My old i7-3770 went through 4 CPUs before I retired her and the most recent one a 2060 is in my new box. Old cards where an ATI Radeon, Geforce 260ti, Geforce 660ti and then the 2060.

 

Reminder, Games are still mostly programed for the weakest computer, which still use SATA drives and PCIE3 x4 lanes.  Only 1 game presently support MS Direct Storage.  Very few truly take advantage of all the extra Cores, M.2 and all the other toys in your computer.

 

Benchmarks are cool and all, but reality is different.  This is why the i5 is often the gamers choice of CPU.

 

Pick the one that makes you happy... for me it was the i7-13700k and I do more production than gaming.

 

Ahem, Hogwarts Legacy begs to differ, needs SSD and 32GB RAM.

[Fendrick]

7 hours ago, MikadoWu said:

You did read the part that I said MOSTLY and I never used the word HDD? Also, you do realize that SATA SSDs are a thing?  And the Hogwarts Specs page never mentions M.2

 

But seriously.... Why would you even comment on SSD and 32g ram.

Because people without experience talk too much.