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[Toruk Makto 69]

Hello...want to ask...what does it mean...does it mean i can run 4 slot 8gb ram at 3200 speed?..i want to use 4 stick of ram ..8gb 3200mhz kingston hyper x fury...my motherboard is msi b550m p gen 3..with r5 5600 cpu

[dizmo]

Yes. Though most would probably suggest going with 2 16GB sticks.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Apparently 2 dual sided (dual rank) stivks clock lower than 4 single sided (still dual rank) sticks?

 

For performance 4x8 single sided (since newer 16gb sticks are single sided) is the way to go, for compatibility then 2x16

 

 

Though 4x8 should be avoided with sticks that you dont know the ics of cause that can cause incompatibility so slower speeds or outright no post, id only advise 4x8 with stuff like bare pcb rams or rams directly from an ic manufacturer (or atleast a branch like crucial/klevv) since you know what ics you are gonna get (though bare pcbs you gotta check manually)

[PDifolco]

9 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Apparently 2 dual sided (dual rank) stivks clock lower than 4 single sided (still dual rank) sticks?

 

For performance 4x8 single sided (since newer 16gb sticks are single sided) is the way to go, for compatibility then 2x16

 

 

Though 4x8 should be avoided with sticks that you dont know the ics of cause that can cause incompatibility so slower speeds or outright no post, id only advise 4x8 with stuff like bare pcb rams or rams directly from an ic manufacturer (or atleast a branch like crucial/klevv) since you know what ics you are gonna get (though bare pcbs you gotta check manually)

Problem is most 16GB sticks nowadays are single rank... and there's no easy way to find which ones are dual ranks

[Somerandomtechyboi]

24 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Problem is most 16GB sticks nowadays are single rank... and there's no easy way to find which ones are dual ranks

Unless you buy used that is

[mariushm]

28 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Apparently 2 dual sided (dual rank) stivks clock lower than 4 single sided (still dual rank) sticks?

 

For performance 4x8 single sided (since newer 16gb sticks are single sided) is the way to go, for compatibility then 2x16

 

 

Though 4x8 should be avoided with sticks that you dont know the ics of cause that can cause incompatibility so slower speeds or outright no post, id only advise 4x8 with stuff like bare pcb rams or rams directly from an ic manufacturer (or atleast a branch like crucial/klevv) since you know what ics you are gonna get (though bare pcbs you gotta check manually)

dual sided <> dual rank , it's not always the case that a stick with memory chips on both sides is dual rank

 

Single rank is lighter on the memory controller, making it possible to achieve higher frequencies with no or minimal transmission errors. 

Dual rank is a bit more difficult, but there are benefits to it that often outweigh the basic increase in frequency.

 

Two sticks per channel make it more difficult because the electric "noise" added by the second stick.

 

I would say that no, most 16 GB sticks should still be dual rank.  the high capacity chips (2 GB per chip) will be most likely used on 32 GB sticks, not 16 GB ones. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just now, mariushm said:

dual sided <> dual rank , it's not always the case that a stick with memory chips on both sides is dual rank

 

Single rank is lighter on the memory controller, making it possible to achieve higher frequencies with no or minimal transmission errors. 

Dual rank is a bit more difficult, but there are benefits to it that often outweigh the basic increase in frequency.

 

Two sticks per channel make it more difficult because the electric "noise" added by the second stick.

 

I would say that no, most 16 GB sticks should still be dual rank.  the high capacity chips (2 GB per chip) will be most likely used on 32 GB sticks, not 16 GB ones. 

Most older 16gb sticks you mean cause literally all the new ones are single rank and single sided afaik

 

and im talking about consumer rams not server stuff which can be quad rank or more on a single stick, so dual sided = dual rank is true for most consumer rams

[Toruk Makto 69]

31 minutes ago, mariushm said:

dual sided <> dual rank , it's not always the case that a stick with memory chips on both sides is dual rank

 

Single rank is lighter on the memory controller, making it possible to achieve higher frequencies with no or minimal transmission errors. 

Dual rank is a bit more difficult, but there are benefits to it that often outweigh the basic increase in frequency.

 

Two sticks per channel make it more difficult because the electric "noise" added by the second stick.

 

I would say that no, most 16 GB sticks should still be dual rank.  the high capacity chips (2 GB per chip) will be most likely used on 32 GB sticks, not 16 GB ones. 

is my b550m and r5 5600 memory controller good enough to run it?..far as i know my 8gb kingston hyper x fury is single rank..so 4 8gb sticks mean?

[mariushm]

Those values in the picture are sort of minimum guarantees for the motherboard. 

The Ryzen CPU also has some official specifications, minimal guarantees, and they're even lower. 

So do Intel processors - I think officially Intel processors support maximum 3200 Mhz DDR4 sticks, but in real world, you can reach much more. 

 

The 5th generation Ryzen processors should have no problem running with 4 sticks at 3600 Mhz, and that motherboard is built well enough to also support that. 

Worst case scenario, if you happen to have a poorly binned 5600x or just a less good motherboard (somebody coughed on it while it was being built on production line, or something like that)  it could happen to not be able to have all four sticks running at 3600 Mhz, in which case you should be able to simply run the sticks at 3200 Mhz.

[Toruk Makto 69]

4 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Those values in the picture are sort of minimum guarantees for the motherboard. 

The Ryzen CPU also has some official specifications, minimal guarantees, and they're even lower. 

So do Intel processors - I think officially Intel processors support maximum 3200 Mhz DDR4 sticks, but in real world, you can reach much more. 

 

The 5th generation Ryzen processors should have no problem running with 4 sticks at 3600 Mhz, and that motherboard is built well enough to also support that. 

Worst case scenario, if you happen to have a poorly binned 5600x or just a less good motherboard (somebody coughed on it while it was being built on production line, or something like that)  it could happen to not be able to have all four sticks running at 3600 Mhz, in which case you should be able to simply run the sticks at 3200 Mhz.

sheesh...no wonder my motherboard has yellow goo when i unbox it