Budget build, is this parts list ok?

[Beef McNugget]

Budget (including currency): ~1000€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: general gaming, a variety of stuff

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I was asked by a friend to put together a pc for about 1000€, including a monitor. So this is what i put together so far - MB and SSD especially are not set in stone (neither is the case), I definitley cut some corners there, going to have to ask if 15, 20€ more are ok for a 500GB nvme, maybe downgrade the mb or the case a bit, depending on specific needs. Wanted to check in with you guys first though, to see if there's anything majorly wrong with my provisional list, or if you have any ideas for parts i might have overlooked. So that's that - one link is pc part picker, the other is geizhals, which gives you more realistic germany prices - thanks for taking the time!

 

PC Part Picker: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sdknv3

Geizhals: https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-2972483

 

[will0hlep]

So,

 

1) 5600 comes with a stock cooler and the cooler you've selected isn't going to get you noticably better performance. Drop the be quiet! cooler and save the 40€

 

2) When buying MB: buy the cheapest board that has the features you need. Spending any more than this won't give you any performance benefits (it's a bit different if you plan on overclocking)

 

3) The ram you've choosen is very expensive, dropping to a 3200Mhz set isn't going to give a noticeable drop in performance but will save you 30€

 

4) Case is expensive and looks don't improve performance

5) using the cash saved from the above changes I've added a 1TB nvme and a PSU that imo is preferable

 

After doing all that I've come to this:
 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mqxmcb

[will0hlep]

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor                                                                        €129.99                

ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard                                                       €112.93                

Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory                                       €40.90  

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive                        €102.90                

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive                                   €48.90  

MSI MECH 2X OC Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card                                                      €375.99                

NOX Hummer ZS ATX Mid Tower Case                                                                                   €57.90  

Corsair RM650x (2021) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply             €97.89                  

Total:     €967.40

[will0hlep]

Make sure to ask mobo seller to update the Bios before shipping it

[Beef McNugget]

9 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

So,

 

1) 5600 comes with a stock cooler and the cooler you've selected isn't going to get you noticably better performance. Drop the be quiet! cooler and save the 40€

 

2) When buying MB: buy the cheapest board that has the features you need. Spending any more than this won't give you any performance benefits (it's a bit different if you plan on overclocking)

 

3) The ram you've choosen is very expensive, dropping to a 3200Mhz set isn't going to give a noticeable drop in performance but will save you 30€

 

4) Case is expensive and looks don't improve performance

5) using the cash saved from the above changes I've added a 1TB nvme and a PSU that imo is preferable

 

After doing all that I've come to this:
 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mqxmcb

First of all, thank you for the review!

 

1) Yeah, totally right about the cooler, somehow i thought it came without the stock one...

 

2) As i said, MB is more of a placeholder - will definitly be tailored to specific needs, so i went for a little bit more expensive to leave some wiggleroom

 

3) RAM makes a difference of 4€ when I'm checking - the one I chose is 44€, cheaper kingston 3200 is 40€ - so I figured why not go for 3600

 

4) also somewhat of a placeholder and more on the expensive side, but yes, you are right, will definitley be optimized.

 

5) looks great, thanks! I'm a bit of a be quiet fanboy, admittedly, so that actually helps a lot

[Beef McNugget]

3 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Make sure to ask mobo seller to update the Bios before shipping it

will do - allthough mindfactory (one of the most prominent hardware sellers in germany) often even sais on their website, if a mobo comes updated for ryzen 5000 iirc

[Rysters Tech]

25 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

So,

 

1) 5600 comes with a stock cooler and the cooler you've selected isn't going to get you noticably better performance. Drop the be quiet! cooler and save the 40€

 

2) When buying MB: buy the cheapest board that has the features you need. Spending any more than this won't give you any performance benefits (it's a bit different if you plan on overclocking)

 

3) The ram you've choosen is very expensive, dropping to a 3200Mhz set isn't going to give a noticeable drop in performance but will save you 30€

 

4) Case is expensive and looks don't improve performance

5) using the cash saved from the above changes I've added a 1TB nvme and a PSU that imo is preferable

 

After doing all that I've come to this:
 

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mqxmcb

I tried using the stock 5600 cooler when i got, and its crap, ended up buying an NH-D9L. A series motherboards do not have good built quality, mine for example has a dead pcie slot and broken onboard sound,only 2 controllable fan headers, and even then they are pwm only, no dc control, i had a friend who built a system with a different a series board. B-series boards are the bare minimum i would get if you value your money.

[Rysters Tech]

i would consider an nhu-12s redux instead as it likely is much quieter, easier to install, better mounting system, and support for future sockets for free.

[will0hlep]

1 minute ago, SiliconMagician said:

I tried using the stock 5600 cooler when i got, and its crap, ended up buying an NH-D9L. A series motherboards do not have good built quality, mine for example has a dead pcie slot and broken onboard sound,only 2 controllable fan headers, and even then they are pwm only, no dc control, i had a friend who built a system with a different a series board. B-series boards are the bare minimum i would get if you value your money.

Never had any such issue myself. OP, I suggest you do your own research on the issue raised here.

[Rysters Tech]

12 minutes ago, Beef McNugget said:

First of all, thank you for the review!

 

1) Yeah, totally right about the cooler, somehow i thought it came without the stock one...

 

2) As i said, MB is more of a placeholder - will definitly be tailored to specific needs, so i went for a little bit more expensive to leave some wiggleroom

 

3) RAM makes a difference of 4€ when I'm checking - the one I chose is 44€, cheaper kingston 3200 is 40€ - so I figured why not go for 3600

 

4) also somewhat of a placeholder and more on the expensive side, but yes, you are right, will definitley be optimized.

 

5) looks great, thanks! I'm a bit of a be quiet fanboy, admittedly, so that actually helps a lot

DO NOT CONSIDER THE STOCK ONE! I tried it with mine in a relatively high airflow case, very noisy, 95c all the time, i had good contact, i took off the plastic. Got an NHD-9L for mine as the u12s redux doesnt fit, but if it does, go for that.

[Ryuikko]

I actually think your list on geizhals is actually very solid, barring the storage situation. The custom prices on this list come from the geizhals website as most parts are cheaper there

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€129.99 @ Mindfactory) 

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer A35 A-RGB CPU Cooler (€33.89 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€123.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€46.98) 

Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€52.90 @ Alza) 

Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card (€319.00) 

Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€73.90) 

Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€88.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Total: €868.56

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-25 18:57 CET+0100

Note is that this list is under budget, and you can easily fit a 6700xt in this list if wanted

* I actually see that you have a monitor in that list so something like This would fit in your budget 

[Beef McNugget]

1 hour ago, SiliconMagician said:

I tried using the stock 5600 cooler when i got, and its crap, ended up buying an NH-D9L. A series motherboards do not have good built quality, mine for example has a dead pcie slot and broken onboard sound,only 2 controllable fan headers, and even then they are pwm only, no dc control, i had a friend who built a system with a different a series board. B-series boards are the bare minimum i would get if you value your money.

alright, so that's a nope on the stock cooler then, thanks for pointing that out - as for the mainboard: idk, an A520 would somehow just feel wrong to me with a midrange CPU, don't ask me why

[Beef McNugget]

1 hour ago, Ryuikko said:

I actually think your list on geizhals is actually very solid, barring the storage situation. The custom prices on this list come from the geizhals website as most parts are cheaper there

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€129.99 @ Mindfactory) 

CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer A35 A-RGB CPU Cooler (€33.89 @ notebooksbilliger.de) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€123.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€46.98) 

Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€52.90 @ Alza) 

Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 210 Core Radeon RX 6650 XT 8 GB Video Card (€319.00) 

Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case (€73.90) 

Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€88.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Total: €868.56

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-25 18:57 CET+0100

Note is that this list is under budget, and you can easily fit a 6700xt in this list if wanted

* I actually see that you have a monitor in that list so something like This would fit in your budget 

Thanks! Yeah, storage was definitley a weak point. I do think I have a better idea of what to do now

About being under budget: Yes, this was sort of on purpose, since afaik monitor is supposed to be included in that price. If budget frees up though, I will def go for mor GPU power

[Rysters Tech]

3 minutes ago, Beef McNugget said:

alright, so that's a nope on the stock cooler then, thanks for pointing that out - as for the mainboard: idk, an A520 would somehow just feel wrong to me with a midrange CPU, don't ask me why

the one you had the list the gigabyte b550 is just fine, just make sure the retailer updates the bios. If your case can fit an NHU-12S redux go for that as the nhd9l is not a great value, my case just didnt fit the 12s.

[Beef McNugget]

1 minute ago, SiliconMagician said:

the one you had the list the gigabyte b550 is just fine, just make sure the retailer updates the bios. If your case can fit an NHU-12S redux go for that as the nhd9l is not a great value, my case just didnt fit the 12s.

yeah, since the case isn't decided on yet, I can work with that, sort of setting that as a requirement. Might even be able to get the 5600 a bit cheaper without the cooler then, if I'm lucky

[Rysters Tech]

2 minutes ago, Beef McNugget said:

yeah, since the case isn't decided on yet, I can work with that, sort of setting that as a requirement. Might even be able to get the 5600 a bit cheaper without the cooler then, if I'm lucky

as far as i know, you cannot buy it without the cooler new. Gamers nexus does reviews on cases that go very in depth, would recommend going over there and seeing what you can find. 

[Beef McNugget]

6 minutes ago, SiliconMagician said:

as far as i know, you cannot buy it without the cooler new. Gamers nexus does reviews on cases that go very in depth, would recommend going over there and seeing what you can find. 

yeah, just checked, boxed with cooler only.

 

I think it's hard to find anything good old tech-jesus doesn't do in depth reviews of

I'll check his reviews out, but ultimately, what it comes down to for me, is that the guy who's gonna be looking at it likes it, and it's not a pile of dogsh*t with no airflow that can fit everything it needs to - there won't be any (major) overclocking, so as long as some fresh air gets in, it should mostly be fine.

[Wardus]

A lower rated power supply (in terms of efficiency) would be a place to cut corners, and I would definitely find like a simple NZXT or Corsair case instead of that one too. I would also switch out the HDD for an SSD.

 

Here’s a slight modification:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8CPqm

(The price is higher because the psu you selected didn’t have one listed)

[Beef McNugget]

2 minutes ago, Wardus said:

A lower rated power supply (in terms of efficiency) would be a place to cut corners, and I would definitely find like a simple NZXT or Corsair case instead of that one too. I would also switch out the HDD for an SSD.

 

Here’s a slight modification:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8CPqm

(The price is higher because the psu you selected didn’t have one listed)

 

yeah, after all those replies, a 1TB Nvme seems like the way to go, instead of small system SSD + large HDD. Especially since adding a SATA drive is probably one of the easiest upgrades to do

[Wardus]

1 hour ago, Beef McNugget said:

alright, so that's a nope on the stock cooler then, thanks for pointing that out - as for the mainboard: idk, an A520 would somehow just feel wrong to me with a midrange CPU, don't ask me why

My experience with AMD stock coolers is actually the polar opposite. they always worked great for me, and I have one running silently in my server right now.