overclocking ram on b660?

[kerriya]

will overclocking ram work on b660 motherboard with a non k cpu? and if it will which ram should i choose? budget is 75$. 

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, kerriya said:

will overclocking ram work on b660 motherboard with a non k cpu?

Yes but actually no. B660 itself has no issue with RAM overclocking, I've gotten DDR4 4000 CL16 stable on a B660 board without too much effort, but the issue comes with non-K CPUs. The non-K chips technically do support RAM overclocking, you can run memory speeds higher than the 3200MT/s official stats, but the issue that comes into play with the non-K chips is that they don't have support for adjusting memory controller voltages. When trying to do memory overclocking on 12th gen DDR4, there are two different voltages you need to raise in order to get it stable, VDDQ TX and VCCSA. On the locked SKUs, however, those voltages are locked, so getting any sort of impressive speed in Gear 1 is rather difficult. If you switch over to Gear 2, then you can get some more decent speeds, but Gear 2 has such a massive latency penalty that the speed bump you get doesn't make up for the performance loss.

 

If you're doing DDR5, then it's not too much of a concern, you generally don't need to touch those voltages until you're trying to get speeds above 6600MT/s, but on DDR4 those CPUs practically speaking don't support memory overclocking.

 

11 minutes ago, kerriya said:

and if it will which ram should i choose? budget is 75$. 

DDR4 or DDR5? For the most part you should just stick to a kit of 3200 CL16 as that should work on all non-K CPUs and be pretty inexpensive (also generally good enough performance for most situations). 3600MT/s is about 50/50 whether it would work or not, so if it's not too much more expensive you could take the gamble and go for that, but whether it's worth it or not is up to you. If you go DDR5, though, you're not gonna get a good kit for $75. 

[kerriya]

5 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Yes but actually no. B660 itself has no issue with RAM overclocking, I've gotten DDR4 4000 CL16 stable on a B660 board without too much effort, but the issue comes with non-K CPUs. The non-K chips technically do support RAM overclocking, you can run memory speeds higher than the 3200MT/s official stats, but the issue that comes into play with the non-K chips is that they don't have support for adjusting memory controller voltages. When trying to do memory overclocking on 12th gen DDR4, there are two different voltages you need to raise in order to get it stable, VDDQ TX and VCCSA. On the locked SKUs, however, those voltages are locked, so getting any sort of impressive speed in Gear 1 is rather difficult. If you switch over to Gear 2, then you can get some more decent speeds, but Gear 2 has such a massive latency penalty that the speed bump you get doesn't make up for the performance loss.

 

If you're doing DDR5, then it's not too much of a concern, you generally don't need to touch those voltages until you're trying to get speeds above 6600MT/s, but on DDR4 those CPUs practically speaking don't support memory overclocking.

 

DDR4 or DDR5? For the most part you should just stick to a kit of 3200 CL16 as that should work on all non-K CPUs and be pretty inexpensive (also generally good enough performance for most situations). 3600MT/s is about 50/50 whether it would work or not, so if it's not too much more expensive you could take the gamble and go for that, but whether it's worth it or not is up to you. If you go DDR5, though, you're not gonna get a good kit for $75. 

thank you. so should i just get the cheapest 3200MT/s cl16 ram?

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, kerriya said:

thank you. so should i just get the cheapest 3200MT/s cl16 ram?

Pretty much. If you're going for a CPU like a 12400 or 13400F it's what generally makes the most sense. 

[kerriya]

Just now, RONOTHAN## said:

Pretty much. If you're going for a CPU like a 12400 or 13400F it's what generally makes the most 

tysm:)

[amir2927]

On 1/9/2023 at 12:51 PM, RONOTHAN## said:

Yes but actually no. B660 itself has no issue with RAM overclocking, I've gotten DDR4 4000 CL16 stable on a B660 board without too much effort, but the issue comes with non-K CPUs. The non-K chips technically do support RAM overclocking, you can run memory speeds higher than the 3200MT/s official stats, but the issue that comes into play with the non-K chips is that they don't have support for adjusting memory controller voltages. When trying to do memory overclocking on 12th gen DDR4, there are two different voltages you need to raise in order to get it stable, VDDQ TX and VCCSA. On the locked SKUs, however, those voltages are locked, so getting any sort of impressive speed in Gear 1 is rather difficult. If you switch over to Gear 2, then you can get some more decent speeds, but Gear 2 has such a massive latency penalty that the speed bump you get doesn't make up for the performance loss.

 

If you're doing DDR5, then it's not too much of a concern, you generally don't need to touch those voltages until you're trying to get speeds above 6600MT/s, but on DDR4 those CPUs practically speaking don't support memory overclocking.

 

DDR4 or DDR5? For the most part you should just stick to a kit of 3200 CL16 as that should work on all non-K CPUs and be pretty inexpensive (also generally good enough performance for most situations). 3600MT/s is about 50/50 whether it would work or not, so if it's not too much more expensive you could take the gamble and go for that, but whether it's worth it or not is up to you. If you go DDR5, though, you're not gonna get a good kit for $75. 

can i overclock my ripjaws 3600 ram on b660 with i7 1200??
with hz and with voltage i need? xmp or manually?
T Y S M

[RONOTHAN##]

8 minutes ago, amir2927 said:

xmp or manually?

Start by seeing if XMP will enable properly, though if it doesn't you'll probably have to resort to having a lower memory speed like 3500MT/s or 3466MT/s. If you want to do a full manual overclock, you can do that as well, just know that it's a lot more than enabling XMP and seeing if that's stable but with some performance improvements as well. 

 

11 minutes ago, amir2927 said:

with hz and with voltage i need?

This very much depends on the exact kit of RAM you have. No two kits overclock identically, some overclock similarly to each other, but never the exact same. Your kit might only do 3600MT/s at 1.35V, nothing higher helps, or you might be able to do 4000MT/s at 1.45V if your CPU is capable of it. There are ways to get an idea of how well it should do by figuring out what IC is present on the kit (you can usually figure this out by looking at the label of the memory stick, at least for G.Skill and Corsair kits), but your mileage will vary in what you can do. 

[amir2927]

7 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Start by seeing if XMP will enable properly, though if it doesn't you'll probably have to resort to having a lower memory speed like 3500MT/s or 3466MT/s. If you want to do a full manual overclock, you can do that as well, just know that it's a lot more than enabling XMP and seeing if that's stable but with some performance improvements as well. 

 

This very much depends on the exact kit of RAM you have. No two kits overclock identically, some overclock similarly to each other, but never the exact same. Your kit might only do 3600MT/s at 1.35V, nothing higher helps, or you might be able to do 4000MT/s at 1.45V if your CPU is capable of it. There are ways to get an idea of how well it should do by figuring out what IC is present on the kit (you can usually figure this out by looking at the label of the memory stick, at least for G.Skill and Corsair kits), but your mileage will vary in what you can do. 

thanks 
i have rare question : my pc restarting and blue screen every 7 - 8 hours ok?
and i cant fix it so can i just restart my pc like every 5 hours you know??? i dont wana see blue screen So
i want to knwo if i restart my pc every 5 hours it wont be happend to my pc ( blue screen )
it will damage my pc or my mainboard or my ram or cpu?

[RONOTHAN##]

1 hour ago, amir2927 said:

my pc restarting and blue screen every 7 - 8 hours ok?

What's the blue screen error code it's giving? You system really shouldn't be blue screening at all. 

 

1 hour ago, amir2927 said:

it will damage my pc or my mainboard or my ram or cpu?

No, a restart won't damage your computer. I'd still be more concerned about why your system is blue screening though. 

[amir2927]

38 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

What's the blue screen error code it's giving? You system really shouldn't be blue screening at all. 

 

No, a restart won't damage your computer. I'd still be more concerned about why your system is blue screening though. 

should i reinstall windows 10 pro again??
one more question : i want to enable xmp and dropdown hz to 3200 or 3000hz and then i restart my pc every 5 hours so bluescreen wont comes up    what you think about this trick??

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, amir2927 said:

should i reinstall windows 10 pro again??

I wouldn't start off with tht. That would be the last thing I'd try. 

 

1 minute ago, amir2927 said:

i want to enable xmp and dropdown hz to 3200 or 3000hz and then i restart my pc every 5 hours so bluescreen wont comes up    what you think about this trick??

Start by just dropping the memory speed down and see if that fixes it, you might not have to restart your system if the RAM was just unstable at 3600. 

[amir2927]

1 hour ago, RONOTHAN## said:

I wouldn't start off with tht. That would be the last thing I'd try. 

 

Start by just dropping the memory speed down and see if that fixes it, you might not have to restart your system if the RAM was just unstable at 3600. 

now i did xmp enable and my pc boot with 3600hz
im waiting for see result and im gonna tel you here
ty

[amir2927]

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