Is this too much for high fps 1440p/144Hz gaming?

[minato]

Hi folks!

 

As the title says I'd mainly use it for gaming in 2K 144Hz with the occasional video editing.

 

Here's my wish list for the build:

 

Here's the link as well for it.

 

Every answer will be much appreciated, thanks!

[brob]

Post the link, screen grabs are unreadable on portable devices.

[OddOod]

Depends on the games, but not really overkill

[minato]

6 minutes ago, brob said:

Post the link, screen grabs are unreadable on portable devices.

Didn't know, sorry about that!
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/aktai/saved/fXT8Q7

[minato]

3 minutes ago, OddOod said:

Depends on the games, but not really overkill

Honestly I'd play the original CoD Warzone and with some Battlefield 1 too

[191x7]

46 minutes ago, minato said:

Hi folks!

 

As the title says I'd mainly use it for gaming in 2K 144Hz with the occasional video editing.

 

Here's my wish list for the build:

 

 

Here's the link as well for it.

 

Every answer will be much appreciated, thanks!

If it's a new build, don't go Zen3 in 2023, go with something newer.

[minato]

1 hour ago, 191x7 said:

If it's a new build, don't go Zen3 in 2023, go with something newer.

I've seen people say a lot of good things about it even if it's almost 3 years old now since the new ones are really prices, do you think I should wait for the 3D ones of 7000 series from AMD now?

[191x7]

4 minutes ago, minato said:

I've seen people say a lot of good things about it even if it's almost 3 years old now since the new ones are really prices, do you think I should wait for the 3D ones of 7000 series from AMD now?

You could go with a non-X from AMD, those release in a matter of days. Or you can go Intel Alder Lake / Raptor lake.

[minato]

Just now, 191x7 said:

You could go with a non-X from AMD, those release in a matter of days. Or you can go Intel Alder Lake / Raptor lake.

Will keep an eye on them, thank you!

[Queen Chrysalis]

Most of this stuff won’t effect performance.  You could spend a lot less and still get the same performance on stuff that still looks pretty rad.

[OddOod]

2 hours ago, minato said:

I've seen people say a lot of good things about it even if it's almost 3 years old now since the new ones are really prices, do you think I should wait for the 3D ones of 7000 series from AMD now?

TBH I agree. The 5800x is wildly overkill for most games these days and will be for years to come. I'd recommend getting it used for some savings though.

 

[Queen Chrysalis]

7 hours ago, OddOod said:

TBH I agree. The 5800x is wildly overkill for most games these days and will be for years to come. I'd recommend getting it used for some savings though.

 

This.  Just because faster products exist, it doesn't mean that they're needed.  This is a serious problem for chipmakers right now, as their old products are still more than adequate for the needs of software.  Most non-gamers can still use desktops from 2010 and not have issues or even really be able to tell the difference as long as they have a SATA SSD and 8GB of RAM.  For gaming, unless you really, really care about marginal differences in ultra-high framerates, there is absolutely no point in upgrading from a CPU made in the last 5 years as long as it has enough threads.

[minato]

12 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Most of this stuff won’t effect performance.  You could spend a lot less and still get the same performance on stuff that still looks pretty rad.

Could you give me some examples in regards to CPU and GPU maybe?

[minato]

11 hours ago, OddOod said:

TBH I agree. The 5800x is wildly overkill for most games these days and will be for years to come. I'd recommend getting it used for some savings though.

 

Will keep an eye for it then, thank you!

[OddOod]

Oh! also, *highly* recommend a tower cooler over an AIO. Sure, AIOs look cool, but average time to death is 3 years and I've never got one to last more than 5. Noctua has a long history of providing free mounting bracket upgrades and they carry some stonking coolers, though they lost the performance king. 

 

4 hours ago, minato said:

examples in regards to CPU and GPU

You could probably comfortably rock a 5600x which runs 150 used vs a 5800x which is selling for 250 used. You only lose 2 cores for 60% of the price and nothing stops you from grabbing a 5950x down the line to keep the platform alive. 
Looking at this range of benchmarks it seems that there is zero advantage to more CPU
In fact, the first and only time I've seen any game use more than half my 16 cores was Division 2 which amazingly uses something like 85% of my 5950x when paired with 3080ti at 4kHigh. Still cranked out 100-120fps. Aside from that nothing has come close

 

As for GPU, I think you're good. Those AAA FPS games love to suck back power. Those same benches show this

[SteveGrabowski0]

I don't think there is such a thing as overkill on gpu for 1440p high refresh rate gaming.

[minato]

1 hour ago, OddOod said:

Oh! also, *highly* recommend a tower cooler over an AIO. Sure, AIOs look cool, but average time to death is 3 years and I've never got one to last more than 5. Noctua has a long history of providing free mounting bracket upgrades and they carry some stonking coolers, though they lost the performance king. 

 

You could probably comfortably rock a 5600x which runs 150 used vs a 5800x which is selling for 250 used. You only lose 2 cores for 60% of the price and nothing stops you from grabbing a 5950x down the line to keep the platform alive. 
Looking at this range of benchmarks it seems that there is zero advantage to more CPU
In fact, the first and only time I've seen any game use more than half my 16 cores was Division 2 which amazingly uses something like 85% of my 5950x when paired with 3080ti at 4kHigh. Still cranked out 100-120fps. Aside from that nothing has come close

 

As for GPU, I think you're good. Those AAA FPS games love to suck back power. Those same benches show this

Thank you very much for your time man!

 

Sad thing is I already have a AIO that I bought like last year since I thought the build would be done by December but here we are.. 

 

I actually never bought an used CPU so I'm not sure if I'd venture into those waters haha

But honestly I think that one day I'm gonna go for the AM4 socket still even though the new 7000 (X-less) series looks really like a good deal but I guess only time will tell. 

 

Thanks once again!

 

[minato]

11 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

I don't think there is such a thing as overkill on gpu for 1440p high refresh rate gaming.

Good point, thank you for the reply!

[OddOod]

On 1/9/2023 at 9:45 AM, minato said:

I actually never bought an used CPU so I'm not sure if I'd venture into those waters haha

Given that CPUs have no moving parts and not components that significantly degrade, they are the *best* part to buy used. Sure, maybe if you overclocked the snot out of one and slammed it with 100% load for a decade you might start to be able to measure some performance degradation, but for all intents and purposes there is extremely little risk in buying a used CPU, especially with Ebay's buyer protection