Next Gen Build Advice

[Shenanaguy]

Budget (including currency): $2500 USD (subject to change +/-)

Country: United States 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Streaming/recording, writing documents, next gen games at 120 fps if possible 

Other details: This is for a build I plan on completing within the next year, I'm just trying to get an idea of the direction I want to go and what parts I can buy earlier on vs what I should wait on. 

 

I like to think I'm fairly up to date with tech but I also recognize there are certainly people out there that know a lot more than I do with a lot more experience than I have, thus why I'm posting here today. I'll give you the run down;

 

I want to build an am5 platform PC, probably in the Hyte Y60. This is the first build I plan on doing as a 'themed build' (as far as theme I was thinking Kakashi but I'm leaning towards a Kiseki theme ((The legend of heroes: trails of cold steel arc))) anyway, I know early adopting am5 is an option but it's best to wait until at least the second Gen in any new platform (worst case any hardware level bugs are usually fixed in the 2nd gen best case the new gen makes previous gen cheaper)

 

I plan on doing an all AMD build, as I'm pretty fed up with NVIDIA at this point and also not a big fan of Intel these days. They make great products and I hope for competition but in my personal build I'd rather AMD. So now for the questions I have;

 

Any Kiseki fans have ideas for a cold steel themed build? 

What components (if any) would I be good with getting within the next few months?

This will be my second custom water cooled system, and my first hardline. Any advice on that side of things? 

Also, since I'm recording and uploading videos to YT, I need good storage space. Should I do internal or maybe go with a NAS? (NAS would be a separate budget)

And finally, any other advice or even components to look into is always appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

[greeatzy]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($439.99 @ Adorama) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.95 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X670-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($289.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($988.68 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case: HYTE Y60 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.95 @ B&H) 
Total: $2613.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-16 00:42 EST-0500

[Forleb]

38 minutes ago, Shenanaguy said:

I want to build an am5 platform PC, probably in the Hyte Y60. This is the first build I plan on doing as a 'themed build' (as far as theme I was thinking Kakashi but I'm leaning towards a Kiseki theme ((The legend of heroes: trails of cold steel arc))) anyway, I know early adopting am5 is an option but it's best to wait until at least the second Gen in any new platform (worst case any hardware level bugs are usually fixed in the 2nd gen best case the new gen makes previous gen cheaper)

 

I plan on doing an all AMD build, as I'm pretty fed up with NVIDIA at this point and also not a big fan of Intel these days. They make great products and I hope for competition but in my personal build I'd rather AMD.

Ryzen 7000 doesn't make much sense vs Intel 13th gen in my opinion. The 13700K beats the 7900X in a majority of games and wipes the floor in productivity, yet even after the price drops, the 7900X is still more expensive. Yes, Z790 is more expensive than the B650 you could technically use for the AM5 build, but I'm assuming you want all the bells and whistles if you're investing in a custom loop. Radeon 7000 definitely has fine-wine potential, so a 7900 XTX would make the most sense right now (in MSRP lala land), though I'm not sure if there are blocks out for any of them yet.

[brob]

1 hour ago, Shenanaguy said:

and what parts I can buy earlier

 

None. Wait until you can buy everything. Even relatively static parts like the case can undergo significant improvement.

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 hours ago, Shenanaguy said:

This will be my second custom water cooled system, and my first hardline. Any advice on that side of things? 

Why even bother?

 

If its for overclocking go for a ghetto loop (use car rad instead of flimsy looking puny pc rads) cause you want the lowest temps possible at all costs, aesthetics wise haha no atleast not for a clean build but itll make your pc look masculine af xD   though ryzen 7000 has garbage imc design (too thicc to the point that direct die yeilds 20c+ lower temps) so if you arent running direct die dont even bother with overclocking

 

If its for silence a normal loop will do, just make sure you dont use a flimsy looking thin rad and get a thicc rad, and also dont get ripped off by big brands and look for the cheaper alternatives like bykski, barrow, and i think even alphacool is affordable but not exactly familiar with normie loops cause i have gone the ghetto route in search of ridicolous cooling capabilities for dirt cheap

 

If you dont need absolute silence or ocing a decent dual tower like the fuma 2 or ak620 will do, no maintenece to deal with and you can keep em for a lifetime cause after all theyre just hunks of metal, maybe swap the fans every decade or so when they die

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZTgmpH

Ill just put these specs as baseline, use the rest of the budget on other stuff, not advisable to sacrifice performance if its for less important things like aesthetics

[Shenanaguy]

3 hours ago, brob said:

 

None. Wait until you can buy everything. Even relatively static parts like the case can undergo significant improvement.

 

I actually hadn't considered that, funny enough better to just put the money away for now. Never know if better things will come out

[Shenanaguy]

4 hours ago, Forleb said:

Ryzen 7000 doesn't make much sense vs Intel 13th gen in my opinion. The 13700K beats the 7900X in a majority of games and wipes the floor in productivity, yet even after the price drops, the 7900X is still more expensive. Yes, Z790 is more expensive than the B650 you could technically use for the AM5 build, but I'm assuming you want all the bells and whistles if you're investing in a custom loop. Radeon 7000 definitely has fine-wine potential, so a 7900 XTX would make the most sense right now (in MSRP lala land), though I'm not sure if there are blocks out for any of them yet.

Well, even though 13th gen just take the top position right now, I'm pretty fed up with Intel and Nvidia. Sure, AMD isn't a perfect company either but they are a little better. I don't need to take any top 10 spots in benchmarks

[Shenanaguy]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Why even bother?

 

If its for overclocking go for a ghetto loop (use car rad instead of flimsy looking puny pc rads) cause you want the lowest temps possible at all costs, aesthetics wise haha no atleast not for a clean build but itll make your pc look masculine af xD   though ryzen 7000 has garbage imc design (too thicc to the point that direct die yeilds 20c+ lower temps) so if you arent running direct die dont even bother with overclocking

 

If its for silence a normal loop will do, just make sure you dont use a flimsy looking thin rad and get a thicc rad, and also dont get ripped off by big brands and look for the cheaper alternatives like bykski, barrow, and i think even alphacool is affordable but not exactly familiar with normie loops cause i have gone the ghetto route in search of ridicolous cooling capabilities for dirt cheap

 

If you dont need absolute silence or ocing a decent dual tower like the fuma 2 or ak620 will do, no maintenece to deal with and you can keep em for a lifetime cause after all theyre just hunks of metal, maybe swap the fans every decade or so when they die

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZTgmpH

Ill just put these specs as baseline, use the rest of the budget on other stuff, not advisable to sacrifice performance if its for less important things like aesthetics

True. Knowing AMD they will probably (hopefully) fix the thermal issues in the second Gen of am5. I'm not trying to do any crazy over clocking or anything either. Thermals are of course important and noise reduction is a huge benefit to LC. Mainly, I'm going for aesthetic with this build. So, performance is of course important but AIOs and bulky/ugly components won't make it into the build. Plus, in a full size case the cooling isn't different enough to cause issues, as long as the loop is build properly 

[Shenanaguy]

4 hours ago, greeatzy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($439.99 @ Adorama) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($199.95 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X670-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($289.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Best Buy) 
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card  ($988.68 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case: HYTE Y60 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($159.99 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.95 @ B&H) 
Total: $2613.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-12-16 00:42 EST-0500

Not a bad list. Id probably go for a couple different choices just based on personal preference but that's a solid starting place

[Forleb]

9 hours ago, Shenanaguy said:

Well, even though 13th gen just take the top position right now, I'm pretty fed up with Intel and Nvidia. Sure, AMD isn't a perfect company either but they are a little better. I don't need to take any top 10 spots in benchmarks

It isn't about who's the absolute fastest, it's about Intel beating Ryzen for value at every price point. Once the 13400 comes out, AMD will have 0 pressure on the CPU market unless their platform cost keeps going down a lot. If it's future-proofing you're worried about, yes, AM5 is new while LGA1700 is finished; It's up to you if that matters enough to top the cons of going AMD right now.

[Shenanaguy]

2 hours ago, Forleb said:

It isn't about who's the absolute fastest, it's about Intel beating Ryzen for value at every price point. Once the 13400 comes out, AMD will have 0 pressure on the CPU market unless their platform cost keeps going down a lot. If it's future-proofing you're worried about, yes, AM5 is new while LGA1700 is finished; It's up to you if that matters enough to top the cons of going AMD right now.

Fair. I still think there's going to be a lot more performance available with am5. Future proofing is part of it. The other part is simply that Intel really irks me. Sure, the chips themselves are good. I don't want AMD to always be the best performance or lowest price, as competition is what drive tech forward. For my personal build though, I just can't overlook Intel's constant underhanded tactics and lack of care for any consumer base below the corporate level. As I already stated, I know AMD isn't a perfect company either, but they are still more respectable than Intel. 

 

Again, I would like to make myself clear. I'm not throwing shade at Intel's products. Just the way the company is run and their apparent lack of values. I'm also not claiming AMD is some technology saint or something, just that they are better. 

[brob]

17 minutes ago, Shenanaguy said:

I know AMD isn't a perfect company either, but they are still more respectable than Intel. 

 

 

Both are very large profit seeking companies. Motivation is strictly increasing profit by any legal means.

 

I'm not knocking your preference. In fact the more that chose team red the better. But I don't think the stated justification is based on reality.