12400 slower than 8700

[Internet Swag]

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-8700-vs-intel-core-i5-12400/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti?res=1&quality=ultra

 

Looking at the benchmarks above, it seems the 8700 non k is faster than the 12400. 

Is this true? 

I thought that 4 year newer i5 would be faster than old i7. 

[Pixelfie]

No, 12400 is way faster. 8700 is 20-40% slower iirc.

[Wolly9102]

6 minutes ago, Internet Swag said:

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-8700-vs-intel-core-i5-12400/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti?res=1&quality=ultra

 

Looking at the benchmarks above, it seems the 8700 non k is faster than the 12400. 

Is this true? 

I thought that 4 year newer i5 would be faster than old i7. 

 

Not even close.

[Lurick]

base frequency does not really tell you much of anything

IPC and benchmarks will give you a better idea of the performance differences.

[Mojo-Jojo]

11 minutes ago, Internet Swag said:

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu-compare/intel-core-i7-8700-vs-intel-core-i5-12400/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti?res=1&quality=ultra

 

Looking at the benchmarks above, it seems the 8700 non k is faster than the 12400. 

Is this true? 

I thought that 4 year newer i5 would be faster than old i7. 

Just some friendly advice: don't take sites like these seriously. Simply counting cores, threads and gigahertzes(?) and calling it a day isn't a benchmark. It's not a useful comparison at all. You'll want to look for sites that actually list test execution time or test scores. So real-world performance. Something like this. Although they don't have a 12400, you can already easily make out that even the 12300 beats or at least comes near the 8700. Not bad for half the power usage!

[Dedayog]

35 minutes ago, Mojo-Jojo said:

Just some friendly advice: don't take sites like these seriously. Simply counting cores, threads and gigahertzes(?) and calling it a day isn't a benchmark. It's not a useful comparison at all. You'll want to look for sites that actually list test execution time or test scores. So real-world performance. Something like this. Although they don't have a 12400, you can already easily make out that even the 12300 beats or at least comes near the 8700. Not bad for half the power usage!

This.

 

Or you'll start claiming that a 200 hp Civic Si can't beat a 400hp Ford F-150.  Specs are barely half the story.   Those sites are data, not analysis.

[Pasi123]

Oh, it's that website. I last saw it few years ago and it's hilariously bad.

 

For example a 2005 Pentium 4 vs the 12400:

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu-compare/intel-pentium-4-660-vs-intel-core-i5-12400/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti

"The Core i5-12400 targets mid-range customers while the Pentium 4 660 is a high-end CPU. The Core i5-12400 has 6 cores, while the Pentium 4 660 has 1. Having a higher number of cores improves running multiple applications and heavily multi-threaded tasks. Having an excellent base clock speed of 3.6GHz helps the Pentium 4 660 achieve better performance in most applications. The Core i5-12400 comes with an excellent boost clock speed for gaming and single-thread tasks. Core i5-12400 consumes less power at 65W. With an efficient 10nm manufacturing process, the Core i5-12400 has better thermals. The Core i5-12400 is relatively newer."

[Mister Woof]

13 minutes ago, Pasi123 said:

Oh, it's that website. I last saw it few years ago and it's hilariously bad.

 

For example a 2005 Pentium 4 vs the 12400:

https://www.cpuagent.com/cpu-compare/intel-pentium-4-660-vs-intel-core-i5-12400/summary/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti

"The Core i5-12400 targets mid-range customers while the Pentium 4 660 is a high-end CPU. The Core i5-12400 has 6 cores, while the Pentium 4 660 has 1. Having a higher number of cores improves running multiple applications and heavily multi-threaded tasks. Having an excellent base clock speed of 3.6GHz helps the Pentium 4 660 achieve better performance in most applications. The Core i5-12400 comes with an excellent boost clock speed for gaming and single-thread tasks. Core i5-12400 consumes less power at 65W. With an efficient 10nm manufacturing process, the Core i5-12400 has better thermals. The Core i5-12400 is relatively newer."

[Dedayog]

16 hours ago, Shimmy Gummi said:

I want that!