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[Pfaelzer_04]

Budget: ~1200€

Country: Germany

Games | workloads that it will be used for: Tomb Raider, Horizon Zero Dawn, Portal 2, Witcher 3, Minecraft, games coming up| some basic / light 3D-Design

Other details: 

 

CPU: 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (€ 189,00)

Intel Core i5-12400F / Core i5-12400 (€ 196,00 / € 214,00)

 

Motherboard: 

AMD MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge WIFI (€ 179,81) or GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Elite AX V2 (€ 177,16)

Intel GIGABYTE B660 Gaming X AX DDR4 (€ 186,99)

 

GPU: RTX 3060 or RTX 3060Ti or similar AMD card or wait for 3060 FE with GDDR6X and setup the PC with the Intel integrated APU (€ 379,98 - € 490,00)

 

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws V black DIMM Kit 16GB, DDR4-3200, CL16-18-18-38 (€ 59,89)

 

SSD: Samsung SSD 980 1TB, M.2 (€ 79,99) or a small bootdrive with a large SATA-SSD / 2nd M.2 drive

 

CPU-Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black (€ 36,88)

 

PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600W ATX (€ 79,49)

 

Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX black (€ 102,15) or DeepCool CL500 (€ 84,80) or a other option 

 

Casefans: 1-3 120mm or 140mm "be quiet! Pure Wings 2 PWM" (~3x€ 8,50) Depends on case

 

 

Extra: 4 Pin PWM Splitter 1 to 3 converter (form Amazon (€ 9,99) if needed

 

 

(not included in the budget)

OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit (€ 97,88)

 

Peripherals: 

Keyboard: Logitech G413 (€ 59,99)

Mouse: Logitech Gaming G305 (€ 37,49)

Monitor: (~200€ - 250€) 1080p or 1440p with 144Hz | I need a new Idea since my fist choice the "Aoc 24G2U" is 50€ more expensive than last time I checked

Mousepad: ???

 

This new mid range rig will be used for about 3-5 years (probably with some upgrades in 2024/2025)

 

I need some help with the things written in bold text

 

!!!Prices are from 11.10.2022 from the website "Geizhals"!!!

 

[RONOTHAN##]

8 minutes ago, Pfaelzer_04 said:

CPU: 

AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (€ 189,00)

Intel Core i5-12400F / Core i5-12400 (€ 196,00 / € 214,00)

 

Motherboard: 

AMD MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge WIFI (€ 179,81) or GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Elite AX V2 (€ 177,16)

Intel GIGABYTE B660 Gaming X AX DDR4 (€ 186,99)

Go for whichever platform is cheaper, 5600, 5600X, 12400, or 12400F, the performance for all of them is basically identical. Given those prices, the AMD system makes a bit more sense, but there might be other motherboards out there that would shift it to the Intel rig or more to the AMD rig (the B550-A Pro is usually the Gaming Edge but without RGB for a fair bit less, might be worth looking for a board like that). 

 

10 minutes ago, Pfaelzer_04 said:

GPU: RTX 3060 or RTX 3060Ti or similar AMD card or wait for 3060 FE with GDDR6X and setup the PC with the Intel integrated APU (€ 379,98 - € 490,00)

Pretty sure you meant the 4060FE, not 3060 FE, so I'm writing up my response based on that. 

 

A 4060 will take 6 months to release at the earliest, and that's a bit too long to have to deal with an iGPU. I'd go 3060 Ti or 6700 XT if you can afford them, those two cards are about the same performance (6700 XT is a little faster in pure rasterization performance, 3060 Ti is a lot faster in ray tracing, Nvidia's drivers are a little better, but the AMD card is usually significantly cheaper), so pick whichever you feel makes the most sense, you can't really go wrong either way. 

 

13 minutes ago, Pfaelzer_04 said:

SSD: Samsung SSD 980 1TB, M.2 (€ 79,99) or a small bootdrive with a large SATA-SSD / 2nd M.2 drive

 

Don't get the Samsung 980, it's really expensive for a relatively poor performing SSD. The last gen 970 Evo is significantly faster in every way for usually about the same price, and there are other drives out there that perform just as well for less. 

 

That said, if a large SATA drive is cheaper, just do that. Most people can't tell the difference between a decent SATA drive and a Gen 4 M.2 drive for day to day tasks, let alone a gen 3 drive, so going for one, larger drive so you don't have to worry about separate drive locations is a good idea. 

 

17 minutes ago, Pfaelzer_04 said:

Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX black (€ 102,15) or DeepCool CL500 (€ 84,80) or a other option 

Phanteks Eclipse series is good (P300A, P400A, G360A, etc.), as well as the Lancool 215, Corsair 4000D Airflow, and a bunch of other cases. The 500DX would be my pick out of the two, but case is very much a personal preference thing, so any one of those cases I mentioned would work great, just go for whatever you think looks the best. 

 

18 minutes ago, Pfaelzer_04 said:

Casefans: 1-3 120mm or 140mm "be quiet! Pure Wings 2 PWM" (~3x€ 8,50) Depends on case

 

Look at the Arctic P12s, they're usually super cheap in a 5 pack and have about the same performance and noise as the Pure Wings fans. 

[Pfaelzer_04]

18 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

A 4060 will take 6 months to release at the earliest, and that's a bit too long to have to deal with an iGPU. I'd go 3060 Ti or 6700 XT if you can afford them, those two cards are about the same performance (6700 XT is a little faster in pure rasterization performance, 3060 Ti is a lot faster in ray tracing, Nvidia's drivers are a little better, but the AMD card is usually significantly cheaper), so pick whichever you feel makes the most sense, you can't really go wrong either way. 

Nope, I did actually mean the 3000 series Cards

 

There are some rumors about newer versions with GDDR6x Memory.
But I am not quiet sure how real / possible the statements are.

 

Here is the link to a german newswebsite which claims that there will be the new 3000 Cards:

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafikkarten-Grafikkarte-97980/News/RTX-3060-Ti-Upgrade-auf-GDDR6X-Speicher-bei-FE-Modellen-1404935/

[RONOTHAN##]

1 hour ago, Pfaelzer_04 said:

Nope, I did actually mean the 3000 series Cards

 

There are some rumors about newer versions with GDDR6x Memory.
But I am not quiet sure how real / possible the statements are.

 

Here is the link to a german newswebsite which claims that there will be the new 3000 Cards:

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafikkarten-Grafikkarte-97980/News/RTX-3060-Ti-Upgrade-auf-GDDR6X-Speicher-bei-FE-Modellen-1404935/

Still though, it won't be faster than a 3060 Ti, so might as well get the faster card. Plus the 3060 doesn't really need that much memory bandwidth anyway, so G6X would be kinda wasted on it. 

 

Just get a 6700XT or 3060 Ti