Strange behavior during upgrade.

[Gannam]

So while I was waiting on AMD to release hopefully a 7000 series 3d, I bought a 5500 because it was 120$ and in stock at work.

 

Same day I brought it home and updated my Bios from 3.50 (Latest for my 2700x) to 4.70, which was the last stable version of bios my x470 Taichi MB has.

 

Install went fine, but trying to boot I noticed it never fully went through all of the Dr debug codes like it should during the 3 restarts, it got hung up on the 2nd one, with the error 95.

 

Tried to remove everything possible, cleared Cmos, same error. Tried all combos of ram I can do.

 

Put in my old 2700x, and for some reason it boots? I was told this from Taichi's page, Do I assume that my bios update went poorly? or that I should just return the CPU?

 

Pic of Bios and cpu



Also Should I go back to the old bios 3.50 for my 2700x in the meantime?

[Dukesilver27-]

Off topic, I have to ask, in what way 5500 is an upgrade over 2700x? If anything, it's a side grade, is there something I'm missing other than slightly faster single core?

[Gannam]

Just now, Dukesilver27- said:

Off topic, I have to ask, in what way 5500 is an upgrade over 2700x? If anything, it's a side grade, is there something I'm missing other than slightly faster single core?

I was wanting to see if Smart Access Memory or having a much more up to date CPU would help my cpu performance and my 6900xt, and my 2700x has been a little inconsistent with stability, and stuff like XMP, also the 5500 supported faster memory. (And it was in stock at work, so impulse buy) 

Maybe it was me also buying into the RDNA 2 stuff, was hoping it would do more than just the 12-14% improvement with base and overclocks are at face value

[Dukesilver27-]

Ah, that's why I didn't think of SAM, you didn't mention the GPU, carry on then. Hope you find the solution.

[191x7]

1 hour ago, Gannam said:

I was wanting to see if Smart Access Memory or having a much more up to date CPU would help my cpu performance and my 6900xt, and my 2700x has been a little inconsistent with stability, and stuff like XMP, also the 5500 supported faster memory. (And it was in stock at work, so impulse buy) 

Maybe it was me also buying into the RDNA 2 stuff, was hoping it would do more than just the 12-14% improvement with base and overclocks are at face value

Check the 5500 for bent pins. You might have had an oopsie. 

Also, the 5500 is pretty-much a 3600, a sidegrade from a 2700X, a bit better for gaming. 

A 5700X would be a far better upgrade. or the 5800X3D that performs on the Zen 4 level in games.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

5500 is somewhere inbetween a 3600 and 5600 in performance, faster zen3 cores beat the 3600 with slower zen2 cores (not to mention oc higher, likely 4.6-4.8g max on zen3) but the cache is a handicap so it loses to the 5600, i think that can be made up by clocking the balls off the rams, 2500 ish fclk is possible on these cezanne monolithic ryzens (5500 is a 5600g but disabled igpu) so ~5000 would be the sweetspot, doable with 8gbit rev e/j in the form of ballistix or 2666c19 bare pcbs or decent binned djrs like youd find in a 3600 or faster kit from klevv, just gotta sacrifice your sanity and ram fan for 1.6v vdimm (safe to 1.7v before imc may start slightly degrading)

 

I think multicore wise the 5500 should match the 2700 but destroy it in singlecore, sidegrade if you were looking for more multicore but upgrade if you were looking for more singlecore

 

 

At this point id just try a beta bios and see if those properly support the 5500 which they likely will

[Gannam]

54 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Check the 5500 for bent pins. You might have had an oopsie. 

Also, the 5500 is pretty-much a 3600, a sidegrade from a 2700X, a bit better for gaming. 

A 5700X would be a far better upgrade. or the 5800X3D that performs on the Zen 4 level in games.

Obviously I'd want the 5800x3d, but that's 4x the price. And as for pins ye I checked those, checked it out of the box and the 3 or 4 times I took it out to clean between installs

[Gannam]

11 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

5500 is somewhere inbetween a 3600 and 5600 in performance, faster zen3 cores beat the 3600 with slower zen2 cores (not to mention oc higher, likely 4.6-4.8g max on zen3) but the cache is a handicap so it loses to the 5600, i think that can be made up by clocking the balls off the rams, 2500 ish fclk is possible on these cezanne monolithic ryzens (5500 is a 5600g but disabled igpu) so ~5000 would be the sweetspot, doable with 8gbit rev e/j in the form of ballistix or 2666c19 bare pcbs or decent binned djrs like youd find in a 3600 or faster kit from klevv, just gotta sacrifice your sanity and ram fan for 1.6v vdimm (safe to 1.7v before imc may start slightly degrading)

 

I think multicore wise the 5500 should match the 2700 but destroy it in singlecore, sidegrade if you were looking for more multicore but upgrade if you were looking for more singlecore

 

 

At this point id just try a beta bios and see if those properly support the 5500 which they likely will

Yeah I might try that tomorrow night if I don't end up returning the cpu. Rethinking if I just wanta try to get a AIO with the return money, or try to get another 5000 series to test if same issue

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 minutes ago, Gannam said:

Yeah I might try that tomorrow night if I don't end up returning the cpu. Rethinking if I just wanta try to get a AIO with the return money, or try to get another 5000 series to test if same issue

Aio is pointless garbage unless you need the cooling

 

You should prob get a 5600 if its not that much more than the 5500 (>40$ more than the 5500) since you wont really use that insane imc on a t top board (t top dont clock as high as daisy chain and ryzen imc gets worse with more ranks if you do decide to go 4 stick) and the 5600 has more cache so no need to clock the rams sky high

[191x7]

21 minutes ago, Gannam said:

Obviously I'd want the 5800x3d, but that's 4x the price. And as for pins ye I checked those, checked it out of the box and the 3 or 4 times I took it out to clean between installs

 

Do this; update to the AGESA 1207 (that's the only one that solves almost all the issues on Ryzen, I don't know why AsRock calls it a Beta bios ?!) and install the 5500.

 

Also, the 95 Dr Debug code means...

 

Have you tried that?

 

[Gannam]

12 hours ago, 191x7 said:

 

Do this; update to the AGESA 1207 (that's the only one that solves almost all the issues on Ryzen, I don't know why AsRock calls it a Beta bios ?!) and install the 5500.

 

Also, the 95 Dr Debug code means...

 

Have you tried that?

 

Na I haven't tried the beta bios but I can try when I get home, and yes that 95 error popped up on my other b550 board I had to test, that has never had any GPU installed. Tried to do the remove all PCI E devices including wifi on board

[Gannam]

12 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Aio is pointless garbage unless you need the cooling

 

You should prob get a 5600 if its not that much more than the 5500 (>40$ more than the 5500) since you wont really use that insane imc on a t top board (t top dont clock as high as daisy chain and ryzen imc gets worse with more ranks if you do decide to go 4 stick) and the 5600 has more cache so no need to clock the rams sky high

The AIO was for the future 7000x3d that will hopefully come out at least next year

[Gannam]

12 hours ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

5500 is somewhere inbetween a 3600 and 5600 in performance, faster zen3 cores beat the 3600 with slower zen2 cores (not to mention oc higher, likely 4.6-4.8g max on zen3) but the cache is a handicap so it loses to the 5600, i think that can be made up by clocking the balls off the rams, 2500 ish fclk is possible on these cezanne monolithic ryzens (5500 is a 5600g but disabled igpu) so ~5000 would be the sweetspot, doable with 8gbit rev e/j in the form of ballistix or 2666c19 bare pcbs or decent binned djrs like youd find in a 3600 or faster kit from klevv, just gotta sacrifice your sanity and ram fan for 1.6v vdimm (safe to 1.7v before imc may start slightly degrading)

 

I think multicore wise the 5500 should match the 2700 but destroy it in singlecore, sidegrade if you were looking for more multicore but upgrade if you were looking for more singlecore

 

 

At this point id just try a beta bios and see if those properly support the 5500 which they likely will

Ye I have two kits I own, one 3200, and the other 3600. But if the cpu isn't working then hard to test ram atm

[NekoBubbles]

Make sure you have the right drivers and chipset