pc suggestion Should I build PC with Ryzen 7 5800X, 12600K or wait for 13600k

[MD Utsho]

Hey everyone
I'm thinking about upgrading my PC 
For now i'll only change CPU, MOBO, RAM, CPU cooler and buy a new NVME SSD

I'm 3D artist, and I'll do a lot of multitasking, (Blender, Zbrush, Substance painter and more) 
I also do a lot of gaming, but right now my main priority is multitasking,
Gonna ignore ryzen 7000 series for DDR5 only.
It's too expensive for me, since I'll get 32GB of ram.

We also have to keep the price of the MOBO in mind, I've heard I can get good B series MOBO for AMD for much lower price than Intel. 
but willing to spend at least 150-200$ on a good budget MOBO if I have to. (Also let me know which MOBO should I get for the particular CPU)

So what should I do? 
Thanks.
 

[emosun]

4 minutes ago, MD Utsho said:

but right now my main priority is multitasking,

amd is kinda knocking multitasking out of the park right now so if your loads are heavy on multithreading then amd.

[Action_Johnson]

If you can wait, wait. It's known that 13th Gen will be terrific for multitasking, and you should go DDR5. Otherwise you'll have to buy twice to upgrade your CPU. 

Otherwise today, no matter what, you'll be buying into a dead end if you go DDR4.

 

If you're OK with buying twice, just go 5900X, a decent B550 board like an MSI Tomahawk or Gaming Plus, CL16 3600 RAM, call it a day. 

[Bombastinator]

Heh.  Depends if you have any use for ecores or not. For gamers not only not but probably never will.  Apparently there is a lag issue. 
 

That makes the 12600k effectively a 12400(k) now the 12400f does compete favorably against the 5600x.  I did something almost exactly the same as you only a little while ago and was talked into the 5700x.  Though the jury is still out.  A 12700f is an option.

[MD Utsho]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Heh.  Depends if you have any use for ecores or not. For gamers not only not but probably never will.  Apparently there is a lag issue. 
 

That makes the 12600k effectively a 12400(k) now the 12400f does compete favorably against the 5600x.  I did something almost exactly the same as you only a little while ago and was talked into the 5700x.  Though the jury is still out.  A 12700f is an option.

12700F is not available here. So i've only few choices if I go with previous gen. 5600x 5800x 12400, 12500 & 12600k in my budget. 
These intel cpu has low clock speed though, compared to AMD. 
So not sure what should I pick, have to consider the price for the MOBO too. 

But I guess If i wait for 13th gen, and then get x690 mobo instead of x790 that might work too. (of x790 get's too pricey)

[Xii-Nyth]

oh lol this is getting asked alot high capacity ddr5 should be cheaper, no idea if this is actually the case, but the motherboards alone ruin the cost

if your sure things with actually use the e cores jsut buy 12th gen when its being sold off, if not, 5900xs are always going on the cheap, but things might get cut prices unevenly, havent kept up.

 

Also randomly if youre in winnipeg mb, I have a good b450 board and dual rank 2x16 GB ddr4 at 3600 cl14, on a good memory controller it should be able to sacle upo to higher lcocks with more voltage since its micron rev e, but only tested on systems with a 1600x (limited to 3533) and 8700k (garbonzo imc was unstable at 3800 mhz)

 

edit: nvm lol, one day ill find someone who wants my ram...

[MD Utsho]

32 minutes ago, Action_Johnson said:

If you can wait, wait. It's known that 13th Gen will be terrific for multitasking, and you should go DDR5. Otherwise you'll have to buy twice to upgrade your CPU. 

Otherwise today, no matter what, you'll be buying into a dead end if you go DDR4.

 

If you're OK with buying twice, just go 5900X, a decent B550 board like an MSI Tomahawk or Gaming Plus, CL16 3600 RAM, call it a day. 

I'm using DDR3 ram right now xD Even if I get 3200MHZ CL16 ram that'll be a big upgrade for me
But since i'm already using 16GB of ram, I need more ram for what kind of work I do, So going for 32GB of ram, and getting 32GB of ram and DDR5 will be too expensive for me. 
3200MHZ will be fine for me I guess for couple years. 

[PDifolco]

57 minutes ago, MD Utsho said:

Hey everyone
I'm thinking about upgrading my PC 
For now i'll only change CPU, MOBO, RAM, CPU cooler and buy a new NVME SSD

I'm 3D artist, and I'll do a lot of multitasking, (Blender, Zbrush, Substance painter and more) 
I also do a lot of gaming, but right now my main priority is multitasking,
Gonna ignore ryzen 7000 series for DDR5 only.
It's too expensive for me, since I'll get 32GB of ram.

We also have to keep the price of the MOBO in mind, I've heard I can get good B series MOBO for AMD for much lower price than Intel. 
but willing to spend at least 150-200$ on a good budget MOBO if I have to. (Also let me know which MOBO should I get for the particular CPU)

So what should I do? 
Thanks.
 

If you can wait a bit I'd say get a 13600K : 6 Pcores + 8 Ecores will make it way better than a 5800X or 12600K

And it's still LGA1700, and DDR4 compatible if needed, not like new Ryzens which'll need new expensive AM5 boards and DDR5

[MD Utsho]

Well everyone, I guess it's better to wait for upcoming CPU's and then decide later. Since 13600K have fore E and P cores. It'll be better than 5800x. 
Since I already have a pc to work on, I'll keep working on this one until they release. I shouldn't rush things and regret later. 

[Action_Johnson]

1 hour ago, MD Utsho said:

Well everyone, I guess it's better to wait for upcoming CPU's and then decide later. Since 13600K have fore E and P cores. It'll be better than 5800x. 
Since I already have a pc to work on, I'll keep working on this one until they release. I shouldn't rush things and regret later. 

Probably wise, also buys you time to save in the event Raptor Lake isn't as good as Zen 4.

[Bombastinator]

5 hours ago, Xii-Nyth said:

oh lol this is getting asked alot high capacity ddr5 should be cheaper, no idea if this is actually the case, but the motherboards alone ruin the cost

if your sure things with actually use the e cores jsut buy 12th gen when its being sold off, if not, 5900xs are always going on the cheap, but things might get cut prices unevenly, havent kept up.

 

Also randomly if youre in winnipeg mb, I have a good b450 board and dual rank 2x16 GB ddr4 at 3600 cl14, on a good memory controller it should be able to sacle upo to higher lcocks with more voltage since its micron rev e, but only tested on systems with a 1600x (limited to 3533) and 8700k (garbonzo imc was unstable at 3800 mhz)

 

edit: nvm lol, one day ill find someone who wants my ram...

That’s what she said….ohwait….
 

Selling dram is sort of what eBay is for… or the classifieds here which is a lot cheaper but has minimum requirements.

[Bombastinator]

5 hours ago, MD Utsho said:

I'm using DDR3 ram right now xD Even if I get 3200MHZ CL16 ram that'll be a big upgrade for me
But since i'm already using 16GB of ram, I need more ram for what kind of work I do, So going for 32GB of ram, and getting 32GB of ram and DDR5 will be too expensive for me. 
3200MHZ will be fine for me I guess for couple years. 

“YOU WILL NEVER DEFEAT MY 800Mhz DDR2 on my core 2 board!!!  MUHAHAHAhahahah!”

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[@Spotty] “I beg to differ…”

 

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 There’s actually some pretty decent ddr3 out there.  Really Good ddr3 is better than bad early ddr4, if only just barely.  Just like there’s really good ddr2 that’s better than bad early ddr3.  It’s a major reason so many people think ddr5 will suck a lot less in a year or two.

Edited September 28, 2022 by Bombastinator