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1 hour ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

This is a monster build though, I would be very satisfied with RTX 3070 as I would much rather finish my build with monitor included in total sum of around 2000 eur. Now I realize that I will need to buy this pieces separately and build it myself cause it's gonna be cheaper. Though I'm scared shitless cause I could easily fk this up.

Aight, overkill it is. Have a look at this new one. Still overkill in comparison to what most people have but 500eur cheaper and comes with a monitor. Hard to say what monitor you want as it's all preference but this one seems similar to what you selected at the start. An ultrawide? Ultrawides are a pricy premium, normal 16:9 2k should go for some 300~ eur.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€336.94 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€79.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€159.00 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€111.88 @ Alternate)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€132.13 @ Senetic)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Speedster SWFT 319 Video Card  (€639.00 @ Amazon France)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€119.99 @ Amazon France)
Monitor: Xiaomi Mi 34.0" 3440x1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor  (€423.59 @ Amazon France)
Total: €2092.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-17 18:49 CEST+0200

PC CONFIGURATION

1) Case: Corsair 4000D - 138 eur
2) CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X - 420 eur
3) Motherboard: Tomahawk B550 - 189 eur
4) RAM: Kingston 1x16 GB DDR4 3200 PC25600 - 105 eur
5) GPU: Asus TUF-RTX3070-O8G-V2 - 810 eur
6) RAM: Kingston 1TB M.2 NVMe - 110 eur
7) Power supply: Corsair ATX 750W - 199 eur
8) CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15 - 135 eur
9) Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G5 LS32AG550EU 32" 165hz 2560x1440 - 385 eur

 

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts and any recommendations. Is this a good build or is there something to be replaced with something that is in the same price range (or even less) but works better (alone or in combination with other parts)?

Thank you kindly in advance!

 

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8 minutes ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

PC CONFIGURATION

1) Case: Corsair 4000D - 138 eur
2) CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X - 420 eur
3) Motherboard: Tomahawk B550 - 189 eur
4) RAM: Kingston 1x16 GB DDR4 3200 PC25600 - 105 eur
5) GPU: Asus TUF-RTX3070-O8G-V2 - 810 eur
6) RAM: Kingston 1TB M.2 NVMe - 110 eur
7) Power supply: Corsair ATX 750W - 199 eur
8) CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15 - 135 eur
9) Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G5 LS32AG550EU 32" 165hz 2560x1440 - 385 eur

 

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts and any recommendations. Is this a good build or is there something to be replaced with something that is in the same price range (or even less) but works better (alone or in combination with other parts)?

Thank you kindly in advance!

 

Seem pretty pricey for some of the parts, 135 eur for NH-D15!? What country are you in?

CPU: i7 9700K@5ghz all core (silence + summer)

cache x47, AVX offset 0

Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero

RAM: Patriot Viper Steel 2x8gb@3733mhz @jedec cl15

PSU: EVGA SuperNova 750 G3

Mon:  LG 27GL850-B, 144Hz Nano IPS - G-Sync compatible/Freesync

GPU: EVGA 1080ti SC Black Edition w/ G12 bracket

Sound: Odac + Fiio E09K

Case: Fractal Design R6 TG Blackout

Storage: MP510 960gb and 860 Evo 500gb

Cooling: CPU: Kraken X62 - GPU: Kraken X42(RIP) -> X53 (From RMA)

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Where are you buying from?

 

This is quite expensive for this system.

 

Some edits:

a 12400f is plenty for gaming a 12600k(f) is cheaper and better at gaming and performs the same in other tasks compared to a 5800x. 420euros for a 5800x is very overpriced

 

1 stick of ram is TERRIBLE for ryzen and even intel. You can lose up to 50% performance. Make sure to always get 2 sticks.

 

What psu is that 750w atx corsair is not specific enough

 

What kingston ssd is that?

 

190 euros for a b550 tomahawk is a lot of money.

 

Very expensinve noctua. Is the sycthe fuma 2, deepcool ak620 or dark rock 4 available?

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53 minutes ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

PC CONFIGURATION

1) Case: Corsair 4000D - 138 eur
2) CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X - 420 eur
3) Motherboard: Tomahawk B550 - 189 eur
4) RAM: Kingston 1x16 GB DDR4 3200 PC25600 - 105 eur
5) GPU: Asus TUF-RTX3070-O8G-V2 - 810 eur
6) RAM: Kingston 1TB M.2 NVMe - 110 eur
7) Power supply: Corsair ATX 750W - 199 eur
8) CPU cooler: Noctua NH-D15 - 135 eur
9) Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G5 LS32AG550EU 32" 165hz 2560x1440 - 385 eur

 

I'd be happy to hear your thoughts and any recommendations. Is this a good build or is there something to be replaced with something that is in the same price range (or even less) but works better (alone or in combination with other parts)?

Thank you kindly in advance!

 

Try using PCPartpicker.com to look for some better prices. Go with 2x8GB ram instead of 1x16GB, it will help performance. I would also try to find a 4000D airflow, the one with the mesh front, rather then the normal 4000D with the solid front panel, but that all depends on availability where you live. As a system, after fixing the ram, it's fine. I have a 5800x myself, and I love it. Your prices are quite high compared to what I paid here in the US, but depending on where you live, there's unfortunately not much you can do about that. Shop around as much as you can to find better prices, fix the ram, and you should be good to go. What are your plans for storage?

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"Dimitrijevic Stefan" gives me Balkan/Slavic vibes and has to use Euro so Slovakia?

Desktop: Ryzen 7 2700X - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3200MHz 16GB Dominator Platinum - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 4TB HDD - XFX 5600XT - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - AOC E2460SH 24.0 Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - HyperX Cloud - Mackie CR5X's

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First of all, thank you all for responding so quick. I'm very noob at this and every piece of advice is appreciated.

@venomtail A Serbian who moved to France.

@RandomlyEpic103 Is this website/store available in France? 2x8gb, I was thinking 2x16gb but I don't really need 32gb for gaming, do I? 4000D with mesh front (wanted that one but was not in option). For storage I'm satisfied with 1 Tb of M.2 NVMe SSD (though I am confused as I'm familiar with the works and looks of regular HDD and SSD SATA III, but this M.2 NVMe is supposed to be much faster than SATA III but it's a damn stick, where does everything get written into there? XD). I live in France so the prices are not cheap. I'll look for more websites.

@jaslion When you say 12600 is that Intel i5? What psu is that 750w atx corsair is not specific enough - I'm not sure what to write here as I don't understand what would be the unit of this.. 😞 Kingston Fury Beast stick KINGSTON KF432C16BBA. That tomahawk was amongst the cheapest motherboards... Only dark rock 4 available for 76 eur.

@DoctorNickFrance, Paris

 

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Psu I mean what is the model name like is it a corsair rmx 750w, cx 750w,... the model name of the unit

 

The 12600k is the i5 yes.

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8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Psu I mean what is the model name like is it a corsair rmx 750w, cx 750w,... the model name of the unit

 

The 12600k is the i5 yes.

rm750x is that it? 😄

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About what id reccommend and should come to ~200€ cheaper 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/JhnNsL

I'm assuming you're just gaming Since that's what was said previously, but if you have cpu intensive workloads, then a 12600k might be warranted. But a 12400f is sufficient 

Cheap aftermarket cooler to keep the cpu cool

Good board for the price

Cheapest kit kf 16gb ram

Good 1tb storage

308p 12gb instead of 3070

Case that was wanted and a good 850 watt psu

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Just now, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

rm750x is that it? 😄

I dunno. You tell me you are buying it. rmx750 is a psu model and it is an excellent psu.

 

Corsair has good and terrible power supplies. So go check what you are buying and tell us the model of the psu.

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5 minutes ago, jaslion said:

I dunno. You tell me you are buying it. rmx750 is a psu model and it is an excellent psu.

 

Corsair has good and terrible power supplies. So go check what you are buying and tell us the model of the psu.

This is the page that says everything about it, I'm sorry but as I said I'm very bad at this and I don't know what is the model of the psu.
https://www.cybertek.fr/alimentation/corsair/99030.aspx

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24 minutes ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

A Serbian who moved to France.

I was about to say Serbia but they don't use Euro's so I had to guess 😄

 

This will be a monster and totally overkill and unnecessary, but below your 2500eur budget I assume? Also enough left over for you to get a monitor. Plenty of good ones for 300eur:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€506.77 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€83.09 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€286.74 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€150.88 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€132.13 @ Senetic) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB GAMING OC Video Card  (€918.23 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€119.99 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €2287.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-17 17:20 CEST+0200

Desktop: Ryzen 7 2700X - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3200MHz 16GB Dominator Platinum - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 4TB HDD - XFX 5600XT - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - AOC E2460SH 24.0 Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - HyperX Cloud - Mackie CR5X's

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4 minutes ago, venomtail said:

I was about to say Serbia but they don't use Euro's so I had to guess 😄

 

This will be a monster and totally overkill and unnecessary, but below your 2500eur budget I assume? Also enough left over for you to get a monitor. Plenty of good ones for 300eur:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€506.77 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€83.09 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG X570S TOMAHAWK MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€286.74 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  (€150.88 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€132.13 @ Senetic) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB GAMING OC Video Card  (€918.23 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€119.99 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €2287.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-17 17:20 CEST+0200

This is a monster build though, I would be very satisfied with RTX 3070 as I would much rather finish my build with monitor included in total sum of around 2000 eur. Now I realize that I will need to buy this pieces separately and build it myself cause it's gonna be cheaper. Though I'm scared shitless cause I could easily fk this up.

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1 hour ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

This is a monster build though, I would be very satisfied with RTX 3070 as I would much rather finish my build with monitor included in total sum of around 2000 eur. Now I realize that I will need to buy this pieces separately and build it myself cause it's gonna be cheaper. Though I'm scared shitless cause I could easily fk this up.

Aight, overkill it is. Have a look at this new one. Still overkill in comparison to what most people have but 500eur cheaper and comes with a monitor. Hard to say what monitor you want as it's all preference but this one seems similar to what you selected at the start. An ultrawide? Ultrawides are a pricy premium, normal 16:9 2k should go for some 300~ eur.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€336.94 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€79.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€159.00 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€111.88 @ Alternate)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€132.13 @ Senetic)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Speedster SWFT 319 Video Card  (€639.00 @ Amazon France)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€119.99 @ Amazon France)
Monitor: Xiaomi Mi 34.0" 3440x1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor  (€423.59 @ Amazon France)
Total: €2092.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-17 18:49 CEST+0200

Desktop: Ryzen 7 2700X - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3200MHz 16GB Dominator Platinum - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 4TB HDD - XFX 5600XT - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - AOC E2460SH 24.0 Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - HyperX Cloud - Mackie CR5X's

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2 hours ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

 

@RandomlyEpic103 Is this website/store available in France? 2x8gb, I was thinking 2x16gb but I don't really need 32gb for gaming, do I? 4000D with mesh front (wanted that one but was not in option). For storage I'm satisfied with 1 Tb of M.2 NVMe SSD (though I am confused as I'm familiar with the works and looks of regular HDD and SSD SATA III, but this M.2 NVMe is supposed to be much faster than SATA III but it's a damn stick, where does everything get written into there? XD). I live in France so the prices are not cheap. I'll look for more websites.

 

PCPartPicker.com should work. I have a few friends in Europe that use it regularly. I know it can be scary to build your first PC, but it's not as hard as you might think, and very rewarding. And yes, it will save you a ton of money compared to prebuilds. Just make sure to do plenty of research, watch some build videos on YouTube, and you'll be fine. 32GB of ram might be a bit overkill, but it can come in handy. It's all about what you can afford, and what you want to use it for. My advice would be to buy 16GB (2x8gb), then upgrade if you need more(just buy 2 more sticks of 8gb ram, but make sure it's the exact same as the one already in the PC). But it's your build, so feel free to get the 2x16gb if you want, nothing wrong with that. As for the NVMe, they're easy too install, and you don't have to mess around with cable. Good luck with your build.

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2 hours ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

This is the page that says everything about it, I'm sorry but as I said I'm very bad at this and I don't know what is the model of the psu.
https://www.cybertek.fr/alimentation/corsair/99030.aspx

200 for that thing? Its a good psu but damn you are overpaying

 

https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-dalimentation-Entièrement-Compatibilité-Condensateurs/dp/B08ZYW3HYS/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=3AZT86QAJYS4I&keywords=rm750&qid=1660759375&sprefix=rm750%2Caps%2C73&sr=8-3

 

Not even the best deal but already 60 less

 

Just getting this pc from amazon would save you 500 already. That site you are using is massively overcharging.

 

Pcpartpicker exists for france and that will give you the best deal usually.

 

Whilst writing this @venomtail made a build that wipes the floor with yours so defo get that you get a lot more pc for the money.

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22 minutes ago, jaslion said:

200 for that thing? Its a good psu but damn you are overpaying

 

https://www.amazon.fr/Corsair-dalimentation-Entièrement-Compatibilité-Condensateurs/dp/B08ZYW3HYS/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=3AZT86QAJYS4I&keywords=rm750&qid=1660759375&sprefix=rm750%2Caps%2C73&sr=8-3

 

Not even the best deal but already 60 less

 

Just getting this pc from amazon would save you 500 already. That site you are using is massively overcharging.

 

Pcpartpicker exists for france and that will give you the best deal usually.

 

Whilst writing this @venomtail made a build that wipes the floor with yours so defo get that you get a lot more pc for the money.

@jaslion

Thanks man, appreciate your dedication to help me on this! 😄

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1 hour ago, RandomlyEpic103 said:

PCPartPicker.com should work. I have a few friends in Europe that use it regularly. I know it can be scary to build your first PC, but it's not as hard as you might think, and very rewarding. And yes, it will save you a ton of money compared to prebuilds. Just make sure to do plenty of research, watch some build videos on YouTube, and you'll be fine. 32GB of ram might be a bit overkill, but it can come in handy. It's all about what you can afford, and what you want to use it for. My advice would be to buy 16GB (2x8gb), then upgrade if you need more(just buy 2 more sticks of 8gb ram, but make sure it's the exact same as the one already in the PC). But it's your build, so feel free to get the 2x16gb if you want, nothing wrong with that. As for the NVMe, they're easy too install, and you don't have to mess around with cable. Good luck with your build.

@RandomlyEpic103

Thanks bro! Really appreciate your advice, I'll go with 2x8 gb most def!

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1 hour ago, venomtail said:

Aight, overkill it is. Have a look at this new one. Still overkill in comparison to what most people have but 500eur cheaper and comes with a monitor. Hard to say what monitor you want as it's all preference but this one seems similar to what you selected at the start. An ultrawide? Ultrawides are a pricy premium, normal 16:9 2k should go for some 300~ eur.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  (€336.94 @ Amazon France)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  (€79.90 @ Amazon France)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  (€159.00 @ Amazon France)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€111.88 @ Alternate)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€132.13 @ Senetic)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Speedster SWFT 319 Video Card  (€639.00 @ Amazon France)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 215 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€89.90 @ Amazon France)
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€119.99 @ Amazon France)
Monitor: Xiaomi Mi 34.0" 3440x1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor  (€423.59 @ Amazon France)
Total: €2092.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-08-17 18:49 CEST+0200

@venomtail

Must say this is a B-E-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-UTIFUL build! As for monitor I don't give a shit what kind of it is, I just want for it to be able to follow up with the GPU to the fullest.

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@venomtailDoes this motherboard come with internet and sound card and what other crap do I need to think about before proceeding with this build?

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16 minutes ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

@venomtailDoes this motherboard come with internet and sound card and what other crap do I need to think about before proceeding with this build?

All modern motherboard come with internet and audio cards built in. Built in WIFI also means you have bluetooth. Of course they most often the bare minimum spec but 99% of the time users don't need anything more.

This board does not have WIFI but does have ethernet, the cable internet. It has basic audio so connections via audio jack won't be a problem. Only if you want to run specialised audio gear might you run into issues.

If you want wifi it's a 20-50eur extra. We'll just swap do a different board And it would look something like this.

Desktop: Ryzen 7 2700X - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3200MHz 16GB Dominator Platinum - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 4TB HDD - XFX 5600XT - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - AOC E2460SH 24.0 Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - HyperX Cloud - Mackie CR5X's

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1 hour ago, Dimitrijevic Stefan said:

@venomtail I don't know where you from but thanks a lot for all your advices. I will definitely go with your build.

Hvala puno majstore! 😄

Great to hear. Don't forget to mark post as "solved" once your happy with it.

Desktop: Ryzen 7 2700X - Kraken X62 Rev 2 - STRIX X470-I - 3200MHz 16GB Dominator Platinum - 250GB 970 Evo boot - 2x 500GB 860 Evo - 4TB HDD - XFX 5600XT - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold - Manta

SetupZowie XL2740 27.0" 240hz - AOC E2460SH 24.0 Roccat Burt Pro Corsair K70 LUX browns - HyperX Cloud - Mackie CR5X's

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