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5700G or 5700X for 2 monitors and RTX 3060

Hello and thank you for your thoughts, I would like to see what I should choose regarding an upgrade that I am doing right now, follows the previous issue and what I was wondering:

 

I had a GTX 1660 ti and connected 2 monitors with different scales and refresh rates on it (regular 144hz and ultrawide 60hz), there was some "sluggishness" while both were connected*, but what I want to know is:

 

Should I...

  1. Buy Ryzen 5700G and connect one monitor to it and the other one to the RTX 3060. (it would make the IGPU work on the second screen to avoid the previous problem?)
  2. Buy a Ryzen 5700x and connect both monitors to the RTX 3060.
  3. Open slot for your Idea of what I should do.

 

I don't know if I am thinking bs but I thought that this IGPU would work and still do 100% of the RTX 3060 without any "sluggishness".

 

Thank you all for your comments and your time!

 

* I know that is because of how different they were in specs and/or my GPU couldn't handle it (sorry if I am wrong) but I don't need to try to solve it because I already sold my GPU and CPU.

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I could be wrong, but I think the iGPU would be disabled when a dedicated GPU card is detected. So you're better off with the 5700X's better performance.

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The "sluggishness" you experience was probably some sort of driver issue or something else, not the fact you were using two different monitors (source: been running multiple, very different monitors for years, never experienced anything like that, from GPUs like 980s through cards like 3080s). 

 

Because of that, I don't see a reason to go for option 1. It's a slower CPU that costs the same amount as the 5800X, just so you get an iGPU that you won't even use. 

 

If you do care about the iGPU, you're better off going Intel or waiting for AM5 to release (that is rumored to have an iGPU). Personally I wouldn't be buying a CPU right now if you can avoid it since new CPUs are bound to launch within about a month, but seeing as you've already sold your current setup that might not be an option. If that's the case, I'd be looking 12600K or 12700F, but there are reasons to go 5700X.

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For multi-monitor setups, the multi-gpu don't work independently, the first GPU (main GPU) would still render the image and send it to the second GPU (for example the integrated one) to display on the second monitor, so both cards VRAM would be used, and the syncing would be probably the same. Meaning - use the main GPU, you don't actually need the iGPU unless you need it for a specific purpose (ie lack of display outputs on the main card, specific use for the iGPU like some acceleration, troubleshooting purposes, ...).

 

The 5700X would be an upgrade from what?

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4 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

If you do care about the iGPU, you're better off going Intel or waiting for AM5 to release (that is rumored to have an iGPU). Personally I wouldn't be buying a CPU right now if you can avoid it since new CPUs are bound to launch within about a month, but seeing as you've already sold your current setup that might not be an option. If that's the case, I'd be looking 12600K or 12700F, but there are reasons to go 5700X.

I sold it because of how good the deal was and how they would lose their value when AM5 arrives, I have a RTX 3050 laptop so I can wait until then.

 

I was thinking that turning on the "iGPU Multi-Monitor" would make them work together, but I don't know if it is true.

 

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3 minutes ago, Goodevil said:

I was thinking that turning on the "iGPU Multi-Monitor" would make them work together, but I don't know if it is true.

It would, but at the same time that's kinda unnecessary. 

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4 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

For multi-monitor setups, the multi-gpu don't work independently, the first GPU (main GPU) would still render the image and send it to the second GPU (for example the integrated one) to display on the second monitor, so both cards VRAM would be used, and the syncing would be probably the same. Meaning - use the main GPU, you don't actually need the iGPU unless you need it for a specific purpose (ie lack of display outputs on the main card, specific use for the iGPU like some acceleration, troubleshooting purposes, ...).

 

The 5700X would be an upgrade from what?

 

thanks, now I understand what happens with "iGPU Multi-Monitor".

 

upgrade from a ryzen 2700 non X.

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1 minute ago, Goodevil said:

 

thanks, now I understand what happens with "iGPU Multi-Monitor".

 

upgrade from a ryzen 2700 non X.

An B450, X470 or x570 motherboard?

Flashed the latest bios?

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5 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

An B450, X470 or x570 motherboard?

Flashed the latest bios?

TUF B450-PRO GAMING with latest bios.

32GB DDR4 RAM 3000Mhz

2 SSD NVME 1tb + 256gb (XPG SX8200 Pro)

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12 minutes ago, RONOTHAN## said:

It would, but at the same time that's kinda unnecessary. 

 

why unnecessary?

wouldn't it give more "space" to work with the RTX 3060?

 

That is what I want and knowing that I could use it for troubleshooting is what I want as well... 

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4 minutes ago, Goodevil said:

why unnecessary?

wouldn't it give more "space" to work with the RTX 3060?

Not really, it would perform within margin of error and pretty much just be a second display driver you need to have installed. You're giving up on CPU performance for it (the 5700G performs a fair bit worse than the 5700X, the only time the 5700G makes sense is when it's either super cheap or you need the iGPU for gaming) and getting no noticeable benefit from it. Yeah it would be helpful for troubleshooting, but at the same time 99% of the time it's unnecessary and you're giving up on more CPU performance, it's not a good trade IMO. 

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13 minutes ago, Goodevil said:

TUF B450-PRO GAMING with latest bios.

32GB DDR4 RAM 3000Mhz

2 SSD NVME 1tb + 256gb (XPG SX8200 Pro)

Corsair CX450 Watts

The PSU is kind-of weak for that system. 

 

As for the CPU, the 5700G is quite weaker than the 5700X/5800X, it's more like an 3700X or 3800X.

I'd go with the 5700X. Or the 5600X. Maybe even a used 3700X or 3800X if the prices are right.

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10 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The PSU is kind-of weak for that system. 

 

As for the CPU, the 5700G is quite weaker than the 5700X/5800X, it's more like an 3700X or 3800X.

I'd go with the 5700X. Or the 5600X. Maybe even a used 3700X or 3800X if the prices are right.

 I am going to change the PSU, maybe a 750w... I will check prices...

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