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New 1gig service - Wifi speeds?

Hello everyone,

 

We just got our new internet installed, symmetrical 1gig fiber connection. We live in a small 4plex building, what would the real world speeds I would see with a top end router?

 

Reason I am asking is I have a Asus ax82u router and even when I am right next to it I am only getting roughly 300-400 mbps via speed test(multiple different servers I've tried) on our 5ghz connection. Our upload is doing perfect, right around ~950 via speedtest. I have our channel set to 100 which is clear, no one else is on it. And I am also using 160mhz. I have also disabled the security suite and turned off qos to see if those were causing issues.

 

The speedtest on the router ui is pulling the correct speeds, ~900mbps down and ~950mbps up. I've also tried multiple different devices.

 

Anyone have any clue?

 

Thank you.

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My 1GB Fibre at home gets 950/950 and 250-275 wifi with Ubiquitus Amplifi HD mesh system.

 

Girlfriend's Comcast 900 service gets 270-280 with the Arris Surfboard I bought (as opposed to using Comcast's).

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4 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

My 1GB Fibre at home gets 950/950 and 250-275 wifi with Ubiquitus Amplifi HD mesh system.

 

Girlfriend's Comcast 900 service gets 270-280 with the Arris Surfboard I bought (as opposed to using Comcast's).

So realistically I'm right where we should be? I know wifi degrades the actual speed, just didn't know by how much. We had spectrum before with 400mbps down and 25 up and I got close to 400mbps(with a different router tho) on our wifi. I just figured i'd be a bit higher with this 1gig connection.

 

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5 minutes ago, Squanchy said:

So realistically I'm right where we should be? I know wifi degrades the actual speed, just didn't know by how much. We had spectrum before with 400mbps down and 25 up and I got close to 400mbps(with a different router tho) on our wifi. I just figured i'd be a bit higher with this 1gig connection.

 

To clarify, I get 950/950 WIRED and 250-275 WIFI with fiber.  You're getting better wifi than I am, as tested with an iPhone 10 and OnePlus 7T Pro.

 

 

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Yeah I'd say its about right, I can generally get anywhere between 500-900Mbit depending on how the stars align on a given day.  I'm also on channel 100 with nothing else showing on that channel.

I have no idea why it varies so much when I'm right next to my WiFi Access Point at all times, my guess is some other interference that is not WiFi so wont show up on a WiFi scan.

My signature 1.44Gbit result is an outlier, as I've only achieved that on one specific device that I do not use very often (and it was a WiFi to LAN speed, not to the Internet).

 

Generally my upload speeds are much worse than my downloads over WiFi too.

Router:  Intel N100 (pfSense) WiFi6: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.7Gbit peak at 160Mhz)
WiFi5: Ubiquiti NanoHD OpenWRT (~500Mbit at 80Mhz) Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, MS510TXPP, GS110EMX
ISPs: Zen Full Fibre 900 (~930Mbit down, 115Mbit up) + Three 5G (~800Mbit down, 115Mbit up)
Upgrading Laptop/Desktop CNVIo WiFi 5 cards to PCIe WiFi6e/7

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I want to be clear that I've got some enterprise APs and this is with 30-35 other clients and fairly dense network (town house area), that being said I know my results are atypical but still here is what I can achieve on my S22 phone:

On WiFi 6 (5GHz) I get about 600-800Mbps over WiFi up and down

On WiFi 6E (6GHz) I can get around 1000 to 1500Mbps up and down depending on the location and distance from the AP.

If I was on a network with far fewer clients I could probably up that a bit but this is also done with a client that's got a 2x2 antenna only (I don't believe the S22 is 4x4).

 

WiFi factors can depend on a LOT of factors as others have mentioned but even just the number of clients on lower end consumer gear can really hamper things, higher end systems with beefier CPUs can generally perform better with more clients but you're still looking at some impact past a certain point. WiFi is for convenience not raw speed, that's what hardwired is for.

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Bearing in mind my results are from the Zyxel NWA210AX and it will generally only have six clients on the 5Ghz with most of them basically idle.

 

Overall, WiFi 7 is going to be the game changer I think where we should at least be able to more consistently hit Gigabit.  Of course then we'll have people on 10Gbit complaining (also completely unaware that most if not all 10Gbit services are sharing that 10Gbit with all other users on that fibre). 😉

 

At the end of the day it will always come back to only use WiFi if you absolutely HAVE to.  I'm actually impressed phones can go as fast as they can, considering the power constraints and how tiny the antennas are.

I'm absolutely blown away that I can pull 180MB/s off Steam, wired of course, and any faster would be nice to have but kinda unrealistic given how broadband speeds are increasing much faster than data centre speeds are now.  There comes a point where the other end is deliberately throttling you so they can service everyone.  They're not going to let you hammer an entire cloud instance to yourself.

eg As I understand it, neither Xbox or Playstation actually allow Gigabit downloads and especially if you're in a game they will throttle down dramatically to avoid disrupting the game running properly.  So even if your WiFi is absolutely perfect, your real-world speeds can vary considerably from what a speed test says you can do.

Router:  Intel N100 (pfSense) WiFi6: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.7Gbit peak at 160Mhz)
WiFi5: Ubiquiti NanoHD OpenWRT (~500Mbit at 80Mhz) Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, MS510TXPP, GS110EMX
ISPs: Zen Full Fibre 900 (~930Mbit down, 115Mbit up) + Three 5G (~800Mbit down, 115Mbit up)
Upgrading Laptop/Desktop CNVIo WiFi 5 cards to PCIe WiFi6e/7

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