Refurbished 3070

[Lil-Dabbie]

Recently I started hunting for graphics cards to get rid of my 1060 which has been showing its age heavily in games I want to play. So I looked around I decided I really wanted a 3060ti but found they were around $100 over MSRP (from major retailers). Then I stumbled upon 3070's in stock on newegg for only $60 over msrp at $560. However, they are refurbished from "Computer Headquarters Store". Does anyone know if they are legit and can I trust this? I feel like this is a pretty decent deal considering the pricing but I have never bought used or refurbished before. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[Middcore]

I see no reason to buy a refurb card from a possibly sketchy seller when you can get brand new 3070's for $40 more: 

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-rtx-3070-gaming-z-trio-lhr/p/N82E16814137670

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098Q4M4WH

 

$560 is not a compelling enough price to take a risk. 

[G3R489]

Although I’ve never bought from them, I would say go for it, but use PayPal to pay as they seem very good at refunding if you’ve been scammed for stuff like this.

 

Best of luck!

[xg32]

refurbished on newegg typically means used and broken, and you are better off buying a 3060ti for 480usd new

[Lil-Dabbie]

2 minutes ago, Middcore said:

I see no reason to buy a refurb card from a possibly sketchy seller when you can get brand new 3070's for $40 more: 

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3070-rtx-3070-gaming-z-trio-lhr/p/N82E16814137670

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B098Q4M4WH

 

$560 is not a compelling enough price to take a risk. 

My goal has been to get a high refresh rate 1080p card for as close to MSRP as possible. Paying $100 extra just seems like too much, thats why I feel like trying to take a risk with these cards. Reviews show ~80% positive though which seems kind of low.

[IkeaGnome]

1 minute ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

as close to MSRP as possible

MSRP that Nvidia releases is only for their reference cards even in good times. 

[Lil-Dabbie]

2 minutes ago, xg32 said:

refurbished on newegg typically means used and broken, and you are better off buying a 3060ti for 480usd new

Did you find one for $480? I only see them for $500 and up.

[xg32]

Just now, Lil-Dabbie said:

Did you find one for $480? I only see them for $500 and up.

https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+30+Series+Family&chipset=RTX+3060+Ti, the best cards right now are 3060ti for 480 (i've seen it as low as 450) 3080 for 750-780 and 3080ti for 950

[Lil-Dabbie]

Just now, IkeaGnome said:

MSRP that Nvidia releases is only for their reference cards even in good times. 

Are there MSRPs listed for the non reference cards?

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

My goal has been to get a high refresh rate 1080p card for as close to MSRP as possible. Paying $100 extra just seems like too much, thats why I feel like trying to take a risk with these cards. Reviews show ~80% positive though which seems kind of low.

Not sure the logic.  $100 over MSRP for new, or $200 over value for used?

 

Check your math.

[Middcore]

4 minutes ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

My goal has been to get a high refresh rate 1080p card for as close to MSRP as possible. Paying $100 extra just seems like too much, thats why I feel like trying to take a risk with these cards. Reviews show ~80% positive though which seems kind of low.

 

3060 ti and 3070 are both probably overkill if all you want is to game at 1080p. 

[Lil-Dabbie]

6 minutes ago, xg32 said:

https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+30+Series+Family&chipset=RTX+3060+Ti, the best cards right now are 3060ti for 480 (i've seen it as low as 450) 3080 for 750-780 and 3080ti for 950

Oh this looks great!

[Lil-Dabbie]

6 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Not sure the logic.  $100 over MSRP for new, or $200 over value for used?

 

Check your math.

I thought refurbished was it wasn't working from the factory so they fix it and then resell it. I must be mistaken, I figured it was still essentially new

[Lil-Dabbie]

7 minutes ago, Middcore said:

 

3060 ti and 3070 are both probably overkill if all you want is to game at 1080p. 

I thought a 3060ti was a "high end" card for 1080p. Since it can play most if not all games at 1080p maxed out and well over 60 fps to keep the lows above 60.

 

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

I thought refurbished was it wasn't working from the factory so they fix it and then resell it. I must be mistaken, I figured it was still essentially new

That is what refurbished is supposed to mean, but there is a disturbing trend for resellers to refurb technology on their own.  Sure, they can be certified by a manufacturer to do so, but you have to understand that they get something in, test it, fix what they see is wrong, and resell.  Did they get all the issues?   Not a bet I want to take on PC tech.

 

Refrigerator, TV, stereo?  Sure.  PC tech?  No.

[Lil-Dabbie]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

That is what refurbished is supposed to mean, but there is a disturbing trend for resellers to refurb technology on their own.  Sure, they can be certified by a manufacturer to do so, but you have to understand that they get something in, test it, fix what they see is wrong, and resell.  Did they get all the issues?   Not a bet I want to take on PC tech.

 

Refrigerator, TV, stereo?  Sure.  PC tech?  No.

Ah okay. Do they normally allow you to resend it back if it doesn't work still or can that be fairly sketchy too? Maybe it differs between resellers?

 

[IkeaGnome]

9 minutes ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

Are there MSRPs listed for the non reference cards?

The first price it dropped at was $550.

However a 6750 is a much better option at the same price.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=6750

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

Ah okay. Do they normally allow you to resend it back if it doesn't work still or can that be fairly sketchy too? Maybe it differs between resellers?

 

It's all where you buy it from.  If it's an Amazon refurb, you'll deal with Amazon still.  If it's a 3rd party selling... too much hassle.  Again, not enough savings to take on the risk.

[Lil-Dabbie]

2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

The first price it dropped at was $550.

However a 6750 is a much better option at the same price.

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=6750

Is the 6750 XT just as good as the 3070? I'm not as familiar with AMD cards.

(I'm at work and can't watch the video).

[IkeaGnome]

Just now, Lil-Dabbie said:

Is the 6750 XT just as good as the 3070? I'm not as familiar with AMD cards.

(I'm at work and can't watch the video).

I'll grab screenshots of the FPS in a few different games and the average. Do note that AMD's ray tracing isn't as good, so Vulkan and DX12 benchmarks.

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That being said, if you don't use RTX it becomes very viable as an option.

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There's a ton of pictures so I put them all in spoilers to save peoples' scrolling fingers.

[Lil-Dabbie]

3 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

I'll grab screenshots of the FPS in a few different games and the average. Do note that AMD's ray tracing isn't as good, so Vulkan and DX12 benchmarks.

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That being said, if you don't use RTX it becomes very viable as an option.

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There's a ton of pictures so I put them all in spoilers to save peoples' scrolling fingers.

So the XFX variant would be worth $540? From these few screenshots I think it could be... Also is XFX a decent brand, I don't see their name throw around when I hear about reputable brands. I'm also assuming a ~700W power supply is needed.

[Lil-Dabbie]

Nvm, I see it says 650W on the website.

 

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

So the XFX variant would be worth $540? From these few screenshots I think it could be... Also is XFX a decent brand, I don't see their name throw around when I hear about reputable brands. I'm also assuming a ~700W power supply is needed.

XFX is good to get. So is Sapphire and Power Color. They make good cards, they just aren't as known since they stick to AMD cards and not Nvidia. 

 

2 minutes ago, Lil-Dabbie said:

Nvm, I see it says 650W on the website.

 

This depends on your power supply. They don't have the transient spikes that Nvidia's Ampere cards had/have. The 3070 didn't get them nearly as bad and most of the issues have been fixed in drivers. A good power supply and you can get away with less wattage. 

For reference, I get away with a really good 600 watt powering a 12900k and a 6800xt. The 6750xt CAN pull a little bit more power than a 3070 though, so I'd just stick with what ever PSU you were planning on going with for that as long as it's a good one. 

[Lil-Dabbie]

2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

XFX is good to get. So is Sapphire and Power Color. They make good cards, they just aren't as known since they stick to AMD cards and not Nvidia. 

 

This depends on your power supply. They don't have the transient spikes that Nvidia's Ampere cards had/have. The 3070 didn't get them nearly as bad and most of the issues have been fixed in drivers. A good power supply and you can get away with less wattage. 

For reference, I get away with a really good 600 watt powering a 12900k and a 6800xt. The 6750xt CAN pull a little bit more power than a 3070 though, so I'd just stick with what ever PSU you were planning on going with for that as long as it's a good one. 

I'm currently using some sort of 600W from my prebuilt that I bought back in 2016, so I feel as though a new one wouldn't hurt. I have an i7 9700k, so maybe a 700 or 750W to be safe?

[IkeaGnome]

Just now, Lil-Dabbie said:

I'm currently using some sort of 600W from my prebuilt that I bought back in 2016, so I feel as though a new one wouldn't hurt. I have an i7 9700k, so maybe a 700 or 750W to be safe?

If you're already looking at buying a power supply it would make sense to just go with 750 to not be pushing it. My 600 is only because I didn't want to buy a new SF 750.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v3VG3C/msi-mpg-a-gf-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a750gf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/97zFf7/corsair-cxf-750-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020218-na

Those are both good power supplies under $100. The RMx is a bit more than $100 but is my normal go to as well as many other people.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6NcG3C/corsair-rmx-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020199-na

These are some other good power supplies that are a little bit cheaper. Not sure what you had planned for a PSU budget.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J9drxr/evga-supernova-gt-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-gt-0750-y1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RYH8TW/evga-g5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g5-0750-x1