Thoughts on 12700k + 6700XT build?

[Dedayog]

Budget (including currency):  $2,000 (USD)

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  AAA Gaming (mostly shooters like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II), minimal video and photo editing

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  Looking for a good bang for buck build running 1080p 165Hz+, with support for possible 1440p monitor upgrade in the future (1-2 years).

 

Hard budget of $2000 USD, but definitely think it's doable.

 

All peripherals and monitor are already accounted for, will use from the current system.  Replacing an i7 8700 + 2070 build that is being passed down.

 

Thanks, and anything else I can answer let me know.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GtcXnt

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($349.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($142.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Red Devil Video Card  ($469.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($175.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1703.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-05 10:04 EDT-0400

[Motifator]

Why not use the 2070? It's a great card for COD as MW makes use of DLSS, I was getting decent frames with my 2080 down there. Unless MW2 supports FSR 2.0, I actually think primarily for COD, an Nvidia card might be a better choice.

[Dedayog]

5 minutes ago, Motifator said:

Why not use the 2070? It's a great card for COD as MW makes use of DLSS, I was getting decent frames with my 2080 down there. Unless MW2 supports FSR 2.0, I actually think primarily for COD, an Nvidia card might be a better choice.

Sorry, entire machine is being passed down.  Little sister gets an upgrade too

As to the 6700XT vs 3070, performance is similar-ish but price is very much not.

 

 

[Motifator]

Fair enough, I have to look deeper into how much of a performance hit you get with other forms of AA down there... AFAIK, it was worse when I didn't have DLSS. Now that I have a 3060 Ti with newer Tensor cores, my upper FPS can get well above 100 which is nice (3440x resolution).

6700 XT should be workable, but knowing the devs of this title, FSR 2.0 support might not come soon. I'd suspect you'd have more luck towards lower resolutions and high details if you're going to use 2 to 4x AA.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

7 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($142.99 @ Newegg) 

 

Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama) 

Case: Fractal Design Define 7 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($175.98 @ Newegg)

Garbage

 

8 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 

Cheaper alternative available

 

 

Ram choice is terrible as itll get wiped by overclocked ballistix which does 3800-4200 c14 - 4600+ c18 depending on how you wanna set it up and volts. As ram speed is largely unimportant just buy the cheapest 32gb 3200 c16 kit (vulcan z last time i shecked at 80$) and if you like just look at your ic in thaiphoon burner (likely some hynix ic like mjr) and yoink a 3800 profile off someone online as a lazy oc

 

Why 2 ssds? Theyre mediocre dramless samsungs, maybe worth it at ~90$ but def not at 100$, get an actually decent ssd like silicon power a80, crucial p5, etc. that has dram cache or you can just buy some sub 70$ dramless ssd since speed doesnt really matter for gaming since its already wayyy faster than an hdd and sata ssd

 

Overpriced garbage case with no airflow, cases >100$ are just overpriced and not worth it at all so get a decent mesh case like the nx260, athena m2, p400a, neo air, etc.

 

 

Fuma 2 is at ~65$ and peerless assasin 120 is at 41$ which will perform similarly to the d15s. No you are not able to do proper overclocks anyways (unless you run subzero cooling) since the silicon has already been pushed to the limit from the factory, you are better off undervolting for efficiency and ocing the balls off rams and gpu instead

[Dedayog]

7 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Garbage

 

Cheaper alternative available

 

 

Ram choice is terrible as itll get wiped by overclocked ballistix which does 3800-4200 c14 - 4600+ c18 depending on how you wanna set it up and volts. As ram speed is largely unimportant just buy the cheapest 32gb 3200 c16 kit (vulcan z last time i shecked at 80$) and if you like just look at your ic in thaiphoon burner (likely some hynix ic like mjr) and yoink a 3800 profile off someone online as a lazy oc

 

Why 2 ssds? Theyre mediocre dramless samsungs, maybe worth it at ~90$ but def not at 100$, get an actually decent ssd like silicon power a80, crucial p5, etc. that has dram cache or you can just buy some sub 70$ dramless ssd since speed doesnt really matter for gaming since its already wayyy faster than an hdd and sata ssd

 

Overpriced garbage case with no airflow, cases >100$ are just overpriced and not worth it at all so get a decent mesh case like the nx260, athena m2, p400a, neo air, etc.

 

 

Fuma 2 is at ~65$ and peerless assasin 120 is at 41$ which will perform similarly to the d15s. No you are not able to do proper overclocks anyways (unless you run subzero cooling) since the silicon has already been pushed to the limit from the factory, you are better off undervolting for efficiency and ocing the balls off rams and gpu instead

Good info, thank you.  Will look into.  

 

Dual SSD's due to having a good buy on them for $80 but your point stands... if they're not that good, why use them?  I didn't alter price because I was more concerned with are they good or not.

 

I'll look at that Vulcan kit for him too, appreciate it.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Dual SSD's due to having a good buy on them for $80 but your point stands... if they're not that good, why use them?  I didn't alter price because I was more concerned with are they good or not.

Actually at 80$ its pretty good, samsung makes up for dramless by having tons of slc cache (iirc ~60gb), though ofc dram ssd is preffered, doesnt really matter since games dont exactly care as long as its faster than an hdd

[Guest]

Cheaper option with a 12700F and B660 board. Money saved could go towards that new monitor.

 

You might need to order mounting bracket for the cooler from Thermalright/Amazon etc if it doesn't come with one. The 12700F does come with a stock cooler as a temp solution if needed.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($41.30 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Red Devil Video Card  ($469.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Corsair) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.48 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.48 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($9.48 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1407.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-05 11:09 EDT-0400

[Jeppes]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($41.30 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($84.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($167.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB VENTUS 3X PLUS OC Video Card  ($769.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($8.13 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($8.13 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1987.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-05 12:16 EDT-0400

[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, Jeppes said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($312.96 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($41.30 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($84.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($167.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB VENTUS 3X PLUS OC Video Card  ($769.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($8.13 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PST 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($8.13 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1987.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-05 12:16 EDT-0400

I like how you shoehorned a 3080 in there, and if we take out the monitor (for now), we're looking at less then $1700.  I'll run that by.  

 

Very good option, depending where his final budget lies.  

[Motifator]

It's surely a solid build for COD. I'd second that, just not the PNY SSD though... they've been faking on flash ever since SATA SSDs and they still do it. They were some of the first to change NAND to super low quality crap without informing anybody. That alone does not give me confidence through their SSDs tbh... I'd probably grab a different SSD.

[Dedayog]

1 hour ago, Motifator said:

It's surely a solid build for COD. I'd second that, just not the PNY SSD though... they've been faking on flash ever since SATA SSDs and they still do it. They were some of the first to change NAND to super low quality crap without informing anybody. That alone does not give me confidence through their SSDs tbh... I'd probably grab a different SSD.

Thanks.  Like I mentioned above, I have a few Samsung 980's that I can get for $80 a pop for him, we'll most likely use those.  I am attached (probably unhealthily) to Samsung SSD's.

[Jeppes]

11 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Thanks.  Like I mentioned above, I have a few Samsung 980's that I can get for $80 a pop for him, we'll most likely use those.  I am attached (probably unhealthily) to Samsung SSD's.

980 aint that great. Its dramless but that wont matter much for gaming.