Need help with building a desktop for Gaming in windows/Linux Workstation (dual boot) with 2-3 monitors. Appreciate any help I can get :)

[sl0th333]

Budget (including currency): USD $4000. Can go a bit more depending on the need.

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

• Dual boot - windows and linux
• Gaming 1440p/4K at 140+ hz. Games like cyberpunk, farcry, assassins creed, tomb rider, etc. - Gaming in Windows
• work in linux (ubuntu) - work on neural networks, computer vision and high computation algorithms, ros 1.0 and ros 2.0
• will use CUDA so need NVIDIA gpu

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

• Would connect 2-3 monitors to my desktop. Monitors are 1440p/4K resolution with high refresh rates 120+ hz 

This is my first own desktop and would like to buy and assemble a good one which can last me 5+ years on which I can work (in linux) and also game (in windows).

 

Appreciate any help and builds I can get. Thanks a lot

 

[Jeppes]

How crazy of a system do you need? Two gpu:s for neural stuff? Or is one 3080ti already more than enough.

[sl0th333]

6 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

How crazy of a system do you need? Two gpu:s for neural stuff? Or is one 3080ti already more than enough.

What about a 3090ti instead of two gpu's ? Is there a benefit with two gpu's over a single 3090ti?

[Jeppes]

10 minutes ago, sl0th333 said:

What about a 3090ti instead of two gpu's ? Is there a benefit with two gpu's over a single 3090ti?

Two is usually a lot faster than one. 3090ti might be +10% but another 3080ti could be closer to +80-90%.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Machine-Learning-AI-174/Hardware-Recommendations

[sl0th333]

1 hour ago, Jeppes said:

Two is usually a lot faster than one. 3090ti might be +10% but another 3080ti could be closer to +80-90%.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Machine-Learning-AI-174/Hardware-Recommendations

But also 3080ti does not support SLI. If I choose 3090ti now then maybe I can expand in the future as well? 
I am assuming when you say dual gpus, you mean 2 3080ti’s. But I feel a 3090ti for now is better because of gaming and if needed I can expand and get more vram in the future?

[GeorgeMKane]

3 hours ago, sl0th333 said:

Budget (including currency): USD $4000. Can go a bit more depending on the need.

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

• Dual boot - windows and linux
• Gaming 1440p/4K at 140+ hz. Games like cyberpunk, farcry, assassins creed, tomb rider, etc. - Gaming in Windows
• work in linux (ubuntu) - work on neural networks, computer vision and high computation algorithms, ros 1.0 and ros 2.0
• will use CUDA so need NVIDIA gpu

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

• Would connect 2-3 monitors to my desktop. Monitors are 1440p/4K resolution with high refresh rates 120+ hz 

This is my first own desktop and would like to buy and assemble a good one which can last me 5+ years on which I can work (in linux) and also game (in windows).

 

Appreciate any help and builds I can get. Thanks a lot

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dJTzk9

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($589.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($211.17 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($211.17 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card  ($1549.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair iCUE SP140 RGB ELITE 68.1 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
$3412.21

[igormp]

2 minutes ago, GeorgeMKane said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dJTzk9

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($589.98 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($211.17 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($211.17 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card  ($1549.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($174.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair iCUE SP140 RGB ELITE 68.1 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
$3412.21

2x32gb may be better than 2x16gb, but other than that this build seems solid.

 

3 hours ago, sl0th333 said:

What about a 3090ti instead of two gpu's ? Is there a benefit with two gpu's over a single 3090ti?

2 GPUs would be faster as long as you don't need that much VRAM and know how to distribute your workload across those devices. A single GPU is easier to work with and allows you to further expand later on.

 

2 hours ago, sl0th333 said:

But also 3080ti does not support SLI. If I choose 3090ti now then maybe I can expand in the future as well? 
I am assuming when you say dual gpus, you mean 2 3080ti’s. But I feel a 3090ti for now is better because of gaming and if needed I can expand and get more vram in the future?

SLI is not important whatsoever tho, you can run both GPUs without problems under tensorflow/pytorch without SLI/NVLink.

[sl0th333]

So should I go with the DDR4-3600 or the DDR5 ram? Sorry I don’t have much knowledge about Memory and things.

[Jeppes]

Most cheap Intel 1700-boards have the other physical x16 slots wired through chipset offering pcie3 x4 so more premium ones are ok for this use-case. You will also need a huge psu to be ready for dual 3090ti and a case that can handle the heat output.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900K 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($589.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler  ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory  ($409.34 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1539.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 ATX Full Tower Case  ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA T2 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($365.99 @ EVGA)
Case Fan: ARCTIC P14 PST 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fans 5-Pack  ($40.00)
Total: $3760.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 01:21 EDT-0400

[venomtail]

With your budget would it be smarter to go with two GPU's? Nvidia for Windows and AMD for Linux. Last I heard Nvidia cards were a nightmare to get working on Linux.

3 hours ago, sl0th333 said:

So should I go with the DDR4-3600 or the DDR5 ram? Sorry I don’t have much knowledge about Memory and things.

No. DDR5 is so new pretty sure no one right now takes advantage of DDR5 speeds at a consumer level.

[igormp]

1 hour ago, venomtail said:

With your budget would it be smarter to go with two GPU's? Nvidia for Windows and AMD for Linux. Last I heard Nvidia cards were a nightmare to get working on Linux.

No. DDR5 is so new pretty sure no one right now takes advantage of DDR5 speeds at a consumer level.

Nvidia works fine for Linux, and an AMD gpu would be useless for OP's task on Linux since it requires Cuda. If a 2nd slot ever ends up being used, it better be with a 2nd Nvidia gpu. 

 

4 hours ago, sl0th333 said:

So should I go with the DDR4-3600 or the DDR5 ram? Sorry I don’t have much knowledge about Memory and things.

Not really worth it, you'll barely get any performance improvements for a hefty cost.

[brob]

This build is constructed to allow for a second GPU. The motherboard supports two PCIe 5.0 slots from the CPU. They will run x8 when the second GPU is installed.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KF 3.2 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($549.97 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z690 FORCE WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($329.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4400 CL36 Memory  ($424.99 @ Corsair) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($239.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  ($1499.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL ATX Full Tower Case  ($221.89 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($194.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $3561.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-29 10:54 EDT-0400

[sl0th333]

All these are really helpful. I will probably use a mix of the suggested builds based on component pricing, discounts and my budget !!! 
thanks a lot for the help guys !!!

really appreciate it