New PC Build - need review

[SpartanA259]

Budget (including currency): ~$1500 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: It's by first PC so I will be exploring lots of different games.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Anything with a customized price is something I found at microcenter. I have also purchased a few items as well as a rgb mouse and keyboard, so I wanted to go with an rgb theme. I got another monitor because the one I have is only 60 hertz and I wouldn't be able to get my PC's full potential out of it. i have a fan/argb hub because the motherboard doesn't have enough argb ports. And I have a few custom parts, so if you don't find something, make sure to scroll to the bottom. Iwill be building this PC soon, maybe July or so. Anything helps, thanks.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DjgMFg

 

[ZetZet]

Did you already buy the 12600K or just found it? For a budget build it makes more sense to get something like 12400F+B660 and shift all that extra money to the GPU. 

[SpartanA259]

I just found it at microcenter

[ZetZet]

6 minutes ago, SpartanA259 said:

I just found it at microcenter

Well then I recommend 12400F (or non F, if you can find it for similar price)+B660 and you can bump the GPU all the way to 6750XT or 3060 Ti whichever team you prefer to represent. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T8kQyK

[trevb0t]

33 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

Well then I recommend 12400F (or non F, if you can find it for similar price)+B660 and you can bump the GPU all the way to 6750XT or 3060 Ti whichever team you prefer to represent. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T8kQyK

I think this is a solid notion. Do you (OP) feel like you want to overclock your CPU? If so, you'll want a better cooler than the Ventroo Chinese express.

But either way, the primary performance element in your PC is going to be your GPU at the end of the day.

 

As a personal preference, I'd drop the case, the fans and the hub. Just grab a decent case with the RGB elements built in for the same price or less.

I have built in a handful and can say the Gugnir is a VERY comfortable build with decent fan/hub inclusion. It has a port for your CPU cooler.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gLZzK8/msi-mpg-gungnir-110r-atx-mid-tower-case-mpg-gungnir-110r

 

some other RGB cases with full inclusion I've built in are:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QYzkcf/cooler-master-masterbox-mb511-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b511d-kgnn-rgb

and:

https://www.amazon.com/MUSETEX-Computer-Translucent-Tempered-Pre-Installed/dp/B07MDFYW3N/ref=sr_1_7_sspa?crid=1K7BQHXNW2WPT&keywords=rgb+pc+case&qid=1654635916&sprefix=rgb+pc+c%2Caps%2C512&sr=8-7-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUVEzMFFMVEgxWDJFJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMTQ2Nzg3MzBQRjkzREtEVkVCOSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTUzMjYwQ0pNOUE2RlVFRUw1JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

 

And just RE the cheap satelite speaker sets, you can always grab a cheap pair of RGB ones 

https://www.amazon.com/SOULION-R40-Computer-Speakers-Surround/dp/B09S9ZBC4K/ref=sr_1_12_sspa?crid=J20SM4A4VP9C&keywords=rgb+pc+speakers&qid=1654636102&sprefix=rgb+pc+sp%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-12-spons&psc=1&smid=A22HC2YCGVTJQ2&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNFBaTE5ETlRFS0tJJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDE0NDkxODc1NTEwWjZWNjVLJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0NTA1NjgyS0ZSODdCSkZCN0c2JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

[Pixelfie]

This would be better for the price.

• The 12400F is good enough, and the money we save by getting that over the 12600K will help upgrading other parts.
• The Freezer 34 is much better. Quieter and cooler
• The MSI B660M Bazooka is also a lot better. It's one of the best budget boards, and you don't need a Z690 for a 12400F so just save $20. And I don't recommend the Asus board recommend by someone else. The lower end Asus board aren't that good for what you pay. MSI and Gigabyte usually have better budget boards.
• This RAM is just as good but cheaper.
• This SSD is slightly cheaper and also great.
• The 6750 XT is a great GPU, and because we saved money on other things you can get that.
• This PSU is better.
• These fans are cheaper and will get the job done.
• The upgrade from 1080p to 1440p is pretty nice, so I included a decent 1440p monitor.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($164.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B660M BAZOOKA DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($62.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Black SN750 SE 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Challenger Pro OC Video Card  ($539.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI MPG A-GF 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F120SK 50 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 
Speakers: Creative Labs Pebble 2.0 4.4 W 2.0 Channel Speakers  ($18.99 @ GameStop) 
Total: $1506.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-07 17:44 EDT-0400

[ahmad13610]

use amd storemi if you wanna play a ton of game

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.98 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ID-COOLING SE-226-XT BLACK 68.2 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON MAX WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($50.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage(storemi): ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($37.99 @ Newegg Sellers) 
Storage: Seagate 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($93.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($524.99 @ Walmart) 
Case: Cougar DarkBlader X5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Samsung LC27RG50FQNXZA 27.0" 1920x1080 240 Hz Monitor  ($248.50 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1478.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-08 00:07 EDT-0400

 

 

 

[TECHNOMANCER303]

11 hours ago, SpartanA259 said:

Budget (including currency): ~$1500 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: It's by first PC so I will be exploring lots of different games.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Anything with a customized price is something I found at microcenter. I have also purchased a few items as well as a rgb mouse and keyboard, so I wanted to go with an rgb theme. I got another monitor because the one I have is only 60 hertz and I wouldn't be able to get my PC's full potential out of it. i have a fan/argb hub because the motherboard doesn't have enough argb ports. And I have a few custom parts, so if you don't find something, make sure to scroll to the bottom. Iwill be building this PC soon, maybe July or so. Anything helps, thanks.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DjgMFg

 

Id Skip 12th gen since its like half your gpu budget and your not using ddr5. that would allow you to go to nvidia or better amd gpu. 

 

10th gen is usually always on sale or even 11th gen for cheap. 80-150 range for 10th i7

 

I would buy anything else from offeroupor craigslist, there are so many good deals there and you can find almost anything. Usually 20% off.

[Ryuikko]

3 minutes ago, TECHNOMANCER303 said:

Id Skip 12th gen since its like half your gpu budget and your not using ddr5. that would allow you to go to nvidia or better amd gpu. 

 

10th gen is usually always on sale or even 11th gen for cheap. 80-150 range for 10th i7

Could you please elaborate on your first paragraph? I mean sure a 12600k isn't the most cost efficient cpu, but thats not a reason to ditch the whole generation. In my opinion it's never a good option to go previous gen cpus for many reasons. First of all, a 10 or 11th gen no longer has a upgrade path while 12gens lga1700 socket will at least continued with 13th gen raptor lake that is coming out soon. Secondly most higher end chips on the 10 gen Intel will simply be outclassed by lower end 12gen cpus.  There's also the hassle of finding a mobo and then older mounting brackets ect. Really in my opinion at least, I would stick with 12gen 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, TECHNOMANCER303 said:

Id Skip 12th gen since its like half your gpu budget and your not using ddr5. that would allow you to go to nvidia or better amd gpu. 

 

10th gen is usually always on sale or even 11th gen for cheap. 80-150 range for 10th i7

 

I would buy anything else from offeroupor craigslist, there are so many good deals there and you can find almost anything. Usually 20% off.

You are not getting a 10th gen i7 for $80-$150.

 

That is the cheapest on pcpartpicker, so your top end estimate is $100 off. As for $80 you must be in dreamland. You will get an i3 for that sort of money.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700F 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($248.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $248.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-08 06:18 EDT-0400

[shak0]

11 hours ago, ahmad13610 said:

Case: Cougar DarkBlader X5 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($66.98 @ Newegg) 

cringes in lack of airflow

Honestly just get a Phanteks P300a (or P360a if you want RGB). It's $10 more for the P300a but the airflow advantage is worth the money

[trevb0t]

6 hours ago, lee32uk said:

You are not getting a 10th gen i7 for $80-$150.

I did recently pick up a used 10700F for $120 for a build. That didn't include a cooler or anything, so a cooler would need to be factored in, too. perhaps @TECHNOMANCER303 was referring to local used prices?

 

That said for a 1080p monitor, I'm not convinced the 10700F would even show significant performance gains over the 12600/5600X series in gaming applications anyway; and you don't sacrifice the security and the benefits of new gear.

 

@SpartanA259 Since you have a microcenter, they often offer discounts on motherboards if you buy a CPU. So take parts advice for units, but price check that at your shop. It could save you $30 bucks or so. They often have some really inexpensive SSDs, so be on the lookout!

[Guest]

2 hours ago, trevb0t said:

I did recently pick up a used 10700F for $120 for a build. That didn't include a cooler or anything, so a cooler would need to be factored in, too. perhaps @TECHNOMANCER303 was referring to local used prices?

 

That said for a 1080p monitor, I'm not convinced the 10700F would even show significant performance gains over the 12600/5600X series in gaming applications anyway; and you don't sacrifice the security and the benefits of new gear.

He could be referring to 2nd hand, but that always carries a risk. Never know what you are getting with used parts. A 12400F should outperform a 10700 for gaming.

[TECHNOMANCER303]

21 hours ago, Ryuikko said:

Could you please elaborate on your first paragraph? I mean sure a 12600k isn't the most cost efficient cpu, but thats not a reason to ditch the whole generation. In my opinion it's never a good option to go previous gen cpus for many reasons. First of all, a 10 or 11th gen no longer has a upgrade path while 12gens lga1700 socket will at least continued with 13th gen raptor lake that is coming out soon. Secondly most higher end chips on the 10 gen Intel will simply be outclassed by lower end 12gen cpus.  There's also the hassle of finding a mobo and then older mounting brackets ect. Really in my opinion at least, I would stick with 12gen 

12th gen was new architecture and support for pcie 5.0 and ddr5 both of which will not be mainstream or stable for awhile. 

 

I see your point for upgrading but you don't need to upgrade. 10700k is multi core and plenty fast for a long time (5 years) by then tech will be so different you will need to upgrade anyways.

18 hours ago, lee32uk said:

You are not getting a 10th gen i7 for $80-$150.

 

That is the cheapest on pcpartpicker, so your top end estimate is $100 off. As for $80 you must be in dreamland. You will get an i3 for that sort of money.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700F 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($248.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $248.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-08 06:18 EDT-0400

Microcenter had the sale for 10700k new for $80 and most 10 and 11th gen is regularly on sale. The i3 was like $40 but none really bought it.

 

I made the mistake of buying when it came out, never again. Ill wait till next gen and buy on sale. Or for 11th gen Ill wait for 2 gens by now. since 13th gen is here.

9 hours ago, lee32uk said:

He could be referring to 2nd hand, but that always carries a risk. Never know what you are getting with used parts. A 12400F should outperform a 10700 for gaming.

No I'm talking new from microcenter.

 

And almost every game doesn't need those cpus for marginal improvements. Use the money for 3070 instead. On offerup there are scalpers that are trying to sell the cards fast. and EVGA usually has sales under msrp.

[Ryuikko]

5 minutes ago, TECHNOMANCER303 said:

12th gen was new architecture and support for pcie 5.0 and ddr5 both of which will not be mainstream or stable for awhile. 

 

I see your point for upgrading but you don't need to upgrade. 10700k is multi core and plenty fast for a long time (5 years) by then tech will be so different you will need to upgrade anyways.

? I can't seem to understand here. Ddr5 isn't supported pretty much at all on 12gen intel. While it will work the voltages are locked on the cpus making it almost impossible to hit ddr5 speeds making it worthless. While yes the 10700k isn't the worst cpu it's certainly not better than a 12400 purely based on the new tech that has come out supporting it. Precesion boost, better igpus, their overclocking improvements, their thread director tech, ect ect... yet again, I really can't see a reason to go earlier gen 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, TECHNOMANCER303 said:

Microcenter had the sale for 10700k new for $80 and most 10 and 11th gen is regularly on sale. The i3 was like $40 but none really bought it.

 

I made the mistake of buying when it came out, never again. Ill wait till next gen and buy on sale. Or for 11th gen Ill wait for 2 gens by now. since 13th gen is here.

No I'm talking new from microcenter.

 

And almost every game doesn't need those cpus for marginal improvements. Use the money for 3070 instead. On offerup there are scalpers that are trying to sell the cards fast. and EVGA usually has sales under msrp.

I can't even see any 10700K cpu's on their website. I can see the 11700K for $199.99. I am not in the USA so obviously I don't have access to their stores.

 

If I was the op I would do something like this. Or he can go with an AMD gpu if he prefers.

 

The 3070 is on Newegg.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.94 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($599.99) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: HP Z24i 24.0" 1920x1200 60 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Keyboard: EVGA Z20 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Mouse: Redragon Centrophorus M601 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Speakers: Creative Labs Pebble 2.0 4.4 W 2.0 Channel Speakers  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Custom: AOPEN 27HC5R Pbiipx 27" 1500R Curved Full HD (1920 x 1080) VA Gaming Monitor with AMD Radeon FREESYNC Premium Technology, 165Hz (Display Port & 2 x HDMI Ports), Black  ($159.99) 
Total: $1475.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-09 07:38 EDT-0400

[trevb0t]

10 hours ago, TECHNOMANCER303 said:

The i3 was like $40 but none really bought it.

Kinda amazing that people are passing up essentially brand new i7-7700s for $40!

That said, those of us who don't live anywhere near Microcenters... Those discounts don't extend to the rest of the market.

10 hours ago, TECHNOMANCER303 said:

12th gen was new architecture and support for pcie 5.0 and ddr5 both of which will not be mainstream or stable for awhile. 

 

I see your point for upgrading but you don't need to upgrade. 10700k is multi core and plenty fast for a long time (5 years) by then tech will be so different you will need to upgrade anyways.

Some motherboards in the Z6X series are DDR5 capable, but that wasn't the purpose of 12th gen by any means.

12th gen showed such significant performance benefits to 10th/11th gen, that's like saying "Go with the Ryzen 2700. It's half the price of the 5600X."

At those prices, I'll be keeping my eyes open for personal budget builds, though! Thanks for the heads up!

[trevb0t]

4 hours ago, lee32uk said:

CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 

I've not seen anything on this one. How does it hold up to the standard ~$40 units? (esports duo, hyper212 black, Scythe, etc?)

[Guest]

1 hour ago, trevb0t said:

I've not seen anything on this one. How does it hold up to the standard ~$40 units? (esports duo, hyper212 black, Scythe, etc?)

It is pretty decent for the asking price. Just don't go putting it on an overclocked i9 

 

 

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/deepcool-ak400-air-cooler-review,1.html

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/luke-hill/deepcool-ak400-cpu-cooler-review/

 

 

[TECHNOMANCER303]

On 6/8/2022 at 10:23 PM, Ryuikko said:

? I can't seem to understand here. Ddr5 isn't supported pretty much at all on 12gen intel. While it will work the voltages are locked on the cpus making it almost impossible to hit ddr5 speeds making it worthless. While yes the 10700k isn't the worst cpu it's certainly not better than a 12400 purely based on the new tech that has come out supporting it. Precesion boost, better igpus, their overclocking improvements, their thread director tech, ect ect... yet again, I really can't see a reason to go earlier gen 

Why do you need a good igpu when your buying a dedicated one? 

 

That's my point ddr5 is not available. 

 

Neither is pcie 5.0.

 

Get what you need not what you dont. 

 

 

On 6/9/2022 at 4:37 AM, lee32uk said:

I can't even see any 10700K cpu's on their website. I can see the 11700K for $199.99. I am not in the USA so obviously I don't have access to their stores.

 

If I was the op I would do something like this. Or he can go with an AMD gpu if he prefers.

 

The 3070 is on Newegg.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.94 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($57.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($599.99) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: HP Z24i 24.0" 1920x1200 60 Hz Monitor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Keyboard: EVGA Z20 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Mouse: Redragon Centrophorus M601 Wired Optical Mouse  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Speakers: Creative Labs Pebble 2.0 4.4 W 2.0 Channel Speakers  ($24.99 @ Newegg) 
Custom: AOPEN 27HC5R Pbiipx 27" 1500R Curved Full HD (1920 x 1080) VA Gaming Monitor with AMD Radeon FREESYNC Premium Technology, 165Hz (Display Port & 2 x HDMI Ports), Black  ($159.99) 
Total: $1475.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-09 07:38 EDT-0400

Im sorry for your loss. Microcenter is a gift to us in the US.

On 6/9/2022 at 9:09 AM, trevb0t said:

Kinda amazing that people are passing up essentially brand new i7-7700s for $40!

That said, those of us who don't live anywhere near Microcenters... Those discounts don't extend to the rest of the market.

Some motherboards in the Z6X series are DDR5 capable, but that wasn't the purpose of 12th gen by any means.

12th gen showed such significant performance benefits to 10th/11th gen, that's like saying "Go with the Ryzen 2700. It's half the price of the 5600X."

At those prices, I'll be keeping my eyes open for personal budget builds, though! Thanks for the heads up!

Again sorry for your loss. 

 

For this build I would would not go 12th gen that's just me. 10thor11th wont bottleneck CPU as proven by gamersnexus or jays2cents.

 

I dont build with upgrading in mind because tech standards just change and will lead to new requirements. 

 

plus if you buy something cheap now and then go buy better later why waste that money and just save in the first place. 

 

I had 2 jobs and saved for 6 months for my first computer.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, TECHNOMANCER303 said:

Im sorry for your loss. Microcenter is a gift to us in the US.

Unless you live in one of the states that doesn't have one  We had pc world which was a similar thing, but they went under in 2018.

[SpartanA259]

Thanks for all the advice. At microcenter I found a 12400 for $159.99. I'd assume that's better than the f version because it's the same but with graphics for a cheaper price. I don't know why you would need a better gpu, if someone could answer that that would be great. If I do upgrade the gpu, I'd probably want a better monitor like 1440p. The motherboard I would want to stay the same even with the 12400 because it has good IO and most importantly, it has wifi. I can't really use ethernet so I have to use wifi. I'd preferable want ATX for future expansion. Due to popular demand and self contemplation, I will probably change the cooler to a better non rgb one. I would then be able to get rid of the rgb hub. This PC I'd want to be as long lasting as possible, despite the new rapid improvements. And rgb speakers :D.

[trevb0t]

On 6/11/2022 at 8:03 PM, SpartanA259 said:

Thanks for all the advice. At microcenter I found a 12400 for $159.99. I'd assume that's better than the f version because it's the same but with graphics for a cheaper price. I don't know why you would need a better gpu, if someone could answer that that would be great. If I do upgrade the gpu, I'd probably want a better monitor like 1440p. The motherboard I would want to stay the same even with the 12400 because it has good IO and most importantly, it has wifi. I can't really use ethernet so I have to use wifi. I'd preferable want ATX for future expansion. Due to popular demand and self contemplation, I will probably change the cooler to a better non rgb one. I would then be able to get rid of the rgb hub. This PC I'd want to be as long lasting as possible, despite the new rapid improvements. And rgb speakers :D.

Basically for a gaming PC, the GPU is going to be the main star of the show.

Getting the best GPU you can for your build at your budget is generally the thing to do on a gaming PC, and since NVENC (nVidia) exists, unless you want to record your gameplay in UHD or something, then GPU is more important than CPU for streaming also.

I generally agree. I'd personally be going for a 3070 in this budget range.

[TECHNOMANCER303]

On 6/11/2022 at 3:36 AM, lee32uk said:

Unless you live in one of the states that doesn't have one  We had pc world which was a similar thing, but they went under in 2018.

[TECHNOMANCER303]

On 6/13/2022 at 8:18 AM, trevb0t said:

Basically for a gaming PC, the GPU is going to be the main star of the show.

Getting the best GPU you can for your build at your budget is generally the thing to do on a gaming PC, and since NVENC (nVidia) exists, unless you want to record your gameplay in UHD or something, then GPU is more important than CPU for streaming also.

I generally agree. I'd personally be going for a 3070 in this budget range.

This is 100% my point with GPU focus