Computer unable to process 10-bit 4K 4:2:2 HEVC

[theslothsidd]

Hello, I figured this would be the place to ask.

 

My issue is that my computer has serious issues with playing / decoding 10-bit 4K 4:2:2 HEVC video files, I can tell it's also struggling a little with 1080i files if I try and edit it in Premiere,
but it can't even play 2160p in a media player.

I have tried all sorts of codecs and media players, however none of them can get the job done, which is why I think it's a hardware issue.

My PC doesn't have any issues playing 4K ProRes at around 6-700mbps, so it shouldn't be a hard drive issue either.

 

My setup:

CPU: i7-6700 @ 3.40 GHz

Motherboard: ASUS B150M-PLUS

RAM: 32GB DDR4 (dual)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX1070 MSI 8GB GDDR5

 

I suspect that the CPU is too old, but I'd still love to get a second opinion before I upgrade my setup.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Here is media info for files I have issues with with 2 different types of color primaries and chrome subsampling:

 

1)

Format                                   : MPEG-TS
File size                                : 87.2 GiB
Duration                                 : 3 h 30 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 59.3 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 2001 (0x7D1)
Menu ID                                  : 608 (0x260)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Format Range@L5.1@High
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 3 h 30 min
Bit rate                                 : 54.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 50.000 FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2 (Type 0)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.132
Stream size                              : 80.4 GiB (92%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : HLG / BT.2020 (10-bit)
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant

 

2)

Format                         : MPEG-TS
File size                      : 53.3 GiB
Duration                       : 3 h 4 min
Overall bit rate mode          : Constant
Overall bit rate               : 41.5 Mb/s
Network name                   : D-382
Frequency                      : 14064000000
OrbitalPosition                : 3.0W

Video
ID                             : 512 (0x200)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Format Range@L5.1@Main
Codec ID                       : 36
Duration                       : 3 h 4 min
Bit rate                       : 35.9 Mb/s
Width                          : 3 840 pixels
Height                         : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 50.000 FPS
Standard                       : Component
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:2 (Type 2)
Bit depth                      : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.087
Stream size                    : 46.2 GiB (87%)
Color range                    : Limited
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709

[Electronics Wizardy]

You don't have haradware decoding, you want hardware decoding for the videos to play back well. There is gpu accerlated playback on 11 +12 gen intel and m1 macs currently. 

 

When I'm working with this footage I just convert to prores and work with that footage, and normally delete the orginall files once I know the prores copies are good.

[Heliian]

I have a 9700k and rtx2060 win10 and I gave up trying to fix the mess and went back to h.264.  I tried different programs and drivers but it was always just unworkable.  I said f-it, I'll eat the storage.

 

If you find a solution, let us know! 

[theslothsidd]

28 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You don't have haradware decoding, you want hardware decoding for the videos to play back well. There is gpu accerlated playback on 11 +12 gen intel and m1 macs currently. 

 

When I'm working with this footage I just convert to prores and work with that footage, and normally delete the orginall files once I know the prores copies are good.

Thank you for the fast reply.

Rendering files in the range of 80-100GB to ProRes is not really an option, but I understand that my only issue would be the CPU that needs to be upgraded to one of the newer generations, so I will look into that.

Thank you

[theslothsidd]

3 minutes ago, Heliian said:

I have a 9700k and rtx2060 win10 and I gave up trying to fix the mess and went back to h.264.  I tried different programs and drivers but it was always just unworkable.  I said f-it, I'll eat the storage.

 

If you find a solution, let us know! 

I know a guy who records these files, and he should be able to play them himself without any issues. 

I will try and ask him what his setup is because I am pretty sure he doesn't have some insane setup for it.

[Heliian]

52 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

convert to prores

How are the file sizes afterwards compared to the hevc?  

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 hours ago, Heliian said:

How are the file sizes afterwards compared to the hevc?  

Not that bad. About the same size in prores 422 compared to my r5s all i 10bit, and about 3x the ipb. Its about 600mbit for 2160p 30fps.