Seeing really poor temperatures on my 5900x with Asus B550i in the NR200P max.

[Rock|GTR|]

I just built the system and I have tweaked every setting possible to land at the following temperatures in the NR200P max with the default 280 AIO. The closest comparable AIO to this in the market would be the ML280 from cooler master.

My current setting are:
PBO is set to advance.
PPT 165
TDC 116
EDC 130

Curve optimizer set to per core:
-30 on all cores except the two performance cores selected by the OS, those are on -10.

Voltage offset of -0.05625

With these settings, I get an all-core boost to 4.5 GHz and 4.85 GHz on a single core.

It is not the performance I am concerned with at this moment, but rather the temperatures.

Seeing as a 280 AIO would take some time before the water in the loop is heated up and the temperatures being to spike, I am concerned for my setup as I see very frequent temperature spikes and the temperature finally settles at around 88 C.

This would not be bad if I had the cooler taking air from within the case however, I have changed the radiator fans to intake cool air from the top.

For a CPU consuming 170 Watts at full tilt, seeing 88 C from a 280 AIO is very disappointing.

I have tried remounting the cooler several times with no improvement whatsoever.

And from doing this so many times, I have noticed that the mounting pressure is not even on the CPU block even when I gradually tighten the screws.

The paste always looks like it gets squeezed out from the middle and accumulates on the sides.

I am out of all ideas and I would appreciate any help I can get on this.

[NorKris]

can you give us picture from hwinfo46  while doing ur stresstest?

 

also a pic from the side of ur system?

 

 

GPU and PSU feeding hot air into a rad that i assume is exhaust, 170watt on the cpu... 88 sounds about right 

[PDifolco]

Seems quite normal to me, and you can't do much to change it

 

I have a 5900X on a X570 board, 280mm AIO + D5 pump and reservoir (so 2 pumps)

With PBO OC+200 CO-20 all cores (cause I'm lazy) LLC to High, standard TL I get 20.5K CBR23 (4.3GHz all cores) with 65C temp, in gaming best 2 cores to 5025MHz/ Worst 4900MHz, temp 75C

Now with PPT/TDC/EDC to 200/130/200, CBR23 gives 22.3K (4.55GHz all cores)  but temp to 85C quite quickly, gaming max clock is 4950 best/ 4850 worst...at 78C

 

As I really have no use of 100% CPU loads I went back to the cooler base TL, the perf gain isn't worth +20C, and it don't help at all in gaming

 

 

 

 

[Rock|GTR|]

7 hours ago, NorKris said:

can you give us picture from hwinfo46  while doing ur stresstest?

 

also a pic from the side of ur system?

 

 

GPU and PSU feeding hot air into a rad that i assume is exhaust, 170watt on the cpu... 88 sounds about right 

The Rad is set as intake, so that's not it unfortunately.
The concerning part is even after doing that I hit 81 C while gaming.
I have added the hwinfo ss while running the stress test.
This was the after 4 minutes of running C23.
The clocks started at 4500 and slowly dropped to 4450 as the temperature increased.

Edit: Added photos. Don't mind the dust ;-;

Edited April 26, 2022 by Rock|GTR|
Added photos.

[Rock|GTR|]

5 hours ago, PDifolco said:

Seems quite normal to me, and you can't do much to change it

 

I have a 5900X on a X570 board, 280mm AIO + D5 pump and reservoir (so 2 pumps)

With PBO OC+200 CO-20 all cores (cause I'm lazy) LLC to High, standard TL I get 20.5K CBR23 (4.3GHz all cores) with 65C temp, in gaming best 2 cores to 5025MHz/ Worst 4900MHz, temp 75C

Now with PPT/TDC/EDC to 200/130/200, CBR23 gives 22.3K (4.55GHz all cores)  but temp to 85C quite quickly, gaming max clock is 4950 best/ 4850 worst...at 78C

 

As I really have no use of 100% CPU loads I went back to the cooler base TL, the perf gain isn't worth +20C, and it don't help at all in gaming

 

 

 

 

With those PPT/TDC/EDC values my CPU hits 90C almost instantly and hence the concern.
Even after running a 280 AIO I can't push my CPU and face a performance hit.

My CPU sucks at the stock setting as it only boosts to 3.8 GHz on all cores and barely hits 4800 on a single core.

[PDifolco]

12 minutes ago, Rock|GTR| said:

With those PPT/TDC/EDC values my CPU hits 90C almost instantly and hence the concern.
Even after running a 280 AIO I can't push my CPU and face a performance hit.

My CPU sucks at the stock setting as it only boosts to 3.8 GHz on all cores and barely hits 4800 on a single core.

Well maybe your cooler ain't the best, plus the small case may have high ambient temp. Unless you really need +5% perf on high core count long workloads, I wont bother with high TL and even reduce them to maybe around 130/70/130 (that's a bit of a guess, you can use RyzenMaster to test). It shouldn't hurt single core perf at all, all core perf only a bit, and you'll reduce temps by 10C+ if not 20

[NorKris]

whate thermal paste are u using?

 

these are things i would do:
Run the stress test with the rad outside the case 

Buy 2x P14 fans from Arctic 

[DickSwordOnDiscord]

I know this is old. I just registered on here. 

 

That looks like a 3090 - could be what aids keeping these high temperatures. 

 

My open rig, Core P5 with 5900X & 3090 acts as a spaceheater, upping the ambient temperature in the room.

Quite a lot, too.