First Build - Need Some Suggestions

[Ian D]

Budget (including currency): Under $3000 US

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I do a lot of rendering and 3D modeling in programs like Rhino, Blender, Lumion, etc.  But I also play a lot of games, I'm kind of aiming at something that will run Star Citizen well.

 I'm somewhat familiar with hardware, but this is the first time I've completely picked all my parts, so I just want some feedback before I pull the trigger.  Here's what I'm going for:

 

Ryzen 5900x

MSI MPG B550 WIFI Carbon

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x16GB

WD Black 2TB SN770

Seagate Barracuda 4TB

Corsair HX1000

RTX 3080 (Probably the GIGABYTE Gaming OC GeForce RTX 3080)

 

I also want some case suggestions.  I don't want it to be huge, and I would prefer something somewhat minimalistic.

For a monitor, I was thinking about the Asus VG27AQ, but feel free to suggest something else.

 

[Hybris5112]

Did my best translating your list over to PC part picker to make it easier to see the price of everything.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pdxp2m

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($394.09 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($225.73 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 Rev2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 10GB 10 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1699.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($184.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $3124.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-12 16:04 EDT-0400

 

So here is my suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFKvfv

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($394.09 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($225.73 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 Rev2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1299.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($184.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2814.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-12 16:10 EDT-0400

 

Found the Ti version of the 3080 to be a lot cheaper than the standard variant which fixed the overbudget issue.

Besides that you have managed to avoid the most common pitfalls as far as the actual computer goes. You could add more memory, upgrade the motherboard, more storage but other than that you have picked well.

Case wise I found this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yM2WGX/nzxt-h510-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h52fb-01

Which I believe fits the mid size minimalist setup you were after and should have good cooling being a mesh front case.

[Ian D]

13 minutes ago, Hybris5112 said:

Did my best translating your list over to PC part picker to make it easier to see the price of everything.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pdxp2m

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($394.09 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($225.73 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 Rev2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 10GB 10 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1699.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($184.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $3124.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-12 16:04 EDT-0400

 

So here is my suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFKvfv

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($394.09 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($225.73 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital WD_BLACK SN750 Rev2 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda Pro 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1299.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($184.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2814.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-12 16:10 EDT-0400

 

Found the Ti version of the 3080 to be a lot cheaper than the standard variant which fixed the overbudget issue.

Besides that you have managed to avoid the most common pitfalls as far as the actual computer goes. You could add more memory, upgrade the motherboard, more storage but other than that you have picked well.

Case wise I found this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yM2WGX/nzxt-h510-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h52fb-01

Which I believe fits the mid size minimalist setup you were after and should have good cooling being a mesh front case.

Thanks for the reply,

I found this 3080 10GB on Newegg for $1000, would this not be a better option? https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080gaming-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932459?quicklink=true

[Hybris5112]

1 hour ago, Ian D said:

Thanks for the reply,

I found this 3080 10GB on Newegg for $1000, would this not be a better option? https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080gaming-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932459?quicklink=true

The only good thing is that its cheaper besides that the 3080 Ti is faster and has a bit more VRAM which given your use case is something desirable.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YZtz78

Cost cut with upgraded rams and storage

 

Ballistix does 4000 cl16 with ease and up to a (pointless) 4500+ cl18 depending on how you wanna tune it

 

If you need more storage then you can go for a 14tb toshiba 7200rpm since its similar price/gb as the 6tb hdd i picked

 

Now you have 1800$ for the gpu so 3080(ti) is prob want you wanna go for

[Ian D]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YZtz78

Cost cut with upgraded rams and storage

 

Ballistix does 4000 cl16 with ease and up to a (pointless) 4500+ cl18 depending on how you wanna tune it

 

If you need more storage then you can go for a 14tb toshiba 7200rpm since its similar price/gb as the 6tb hdd i picked

 

Now you have 1800$ for the gpu so 3080(ti) is prob want you wanna go for

Great catch on the memory, thank you.

[Entropy.]

6 hours ago, Ian D said:

Budget (including currency): Under $3000 US

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I do a lot of rendering and 3D modeling in programs like Rhino, Blender, Lumion, etc.  But I also play a lot of games, I'm kind of aiming at something that will run Star Citizen well.

 I'm somewhat familiar with hardware, but this is the first time I've completely picked all my parts, so I just want some feedback before I pull the trigger.  Here's what I'm going for:

 

Ryzen 5900x

MSI MPG B550 WIFI Carbon

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2x16GB

WD Black 2TB SN770

Seagate Barracuda 4TB

Corsair HX1000

RTX 3080 (Probably the GIGABYTE Gaming OC GeForce RTX 3080)

 

I also want some case suggestions.  I don't want it to be huge, and I would prefer something somewhat minimalistic.

For a monitor, I was thinking about the Asus VG27AQ, but feel free to suggest something else.

 

I'd be shooting for a 12700 or a 12900 (any variant, the non-k variants will be cheaper as you would be fine on inexpensive motherboards and cooling solutions) and depending on how much you care about rendering and such. The 5900x is going to straddle the line between the 12700 and the 12900 for some productivity workloads (particularly 3d rendering), while the intel chips will beat the 5900x out in practically all gaming workloads. 

Let's go over what I spec'd out and what you can change: 

 

-I chose to go with the lowest-end 12700f in this configuration. You're losing a little, but not all too much over the 12700k, which would cost around $200 more for low single-digit gains (cooler+motherboard+chip). If you wish to have more power, I'd suggest upgrading to the 12900 (any variant), and if you decide to go with a k/f, a beefier cooler and perhaps motherboard (although the current one should be fine on it). 

-The cooler is a relatively performant and inexpensive, should absolutely be able to manage the 12700f, perhaps even the 12700k and 12900/f. 

- The motherboard is eh, has decent ports and alright VRMs, if you upgrade the CPU you'll also want to upgrade this. It should be fine and even has bios flashback, but not extremely good. 

- The ram is just the cheapest I could find. You could always upgrade to a more reliable, slightly more performant kit (crucial), or even go for 64gb if you feel like it. Lots of headroom in this build. 

- The NVME here is the team mp34- good value, performance, and lifetime/warranty. 

- The 6900xt is going to be around 3080ti-ish levels of performance in most workloads, cept' it has more vram, and is around $300 cheaper, currently. 

- Since you asked for a minimal case, I selected the Meshify C with a solid side panel. You could go for some nicer cases from fractal, phanteks cases, or even something like the corsair 4000d airflow, all just your preference of style.

Finally, the PSU is an excellent unit and will be sufficient for any build with a 12th gen cpu and a 6900xt, unless you're doing some pretty heavy overclocking. 

 

lmk if you'd like to change anything. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQKz78

[Entropy.]

5 minutes ago, Entropy. said:

I'd be shooting for a 12700 or a 12900 (any variant, the non-k variants will be cheaper as you would be fine on inexpensive motherboards and cooling solutions) and depending on how much you care about rendering and such. The 5900x is going to straddle the line between the 12700 and the 12900 for some productivity workloads (particularly 3d rendering), while the intel chips will be the 5900x out in practically all gaming workloads. 

Let's go over what I spec'd out and what you can change: 

 

-I chose to go with the lowest-end 12700f in this configuration. You're losing a little, but not all too much over the 12700k, which would cost around $200 more for low single-digit gains (cooler+motherboard+chip). If you wish to have more power, I'd suggest upgrading to the 12900 (any variant), and if you decide to go with a k/f, a beefier cooler and perhaps motherboard (although the current one should be fine on it). 

-The cooler is a relatively performant and inexpensive, should absolutely be able to manage the 12700f, perhaps even the 12700k and 12900/f. 

- The motherboard is eh, has decent ports and alright VRMs, if you upgrade the CPU you'll also want to upgrade this. It should be fine and even has bios flashback, but not extremely good. 

- The ram is just the cheapest I could find. You could always upgrade to a more reliable, slightly more performant kit (crucial), or even go for 64gb if you feel like it. Lots of headroom in this build. 

- The NVME here is the team mp34- good value, performance, and lifetime/warranty. 

- The 6900xt is going to be around 3080ti-ish levels of performance in most workloads, cept' it has more vram, and is around $300 cheaper, currently. 

- Since you asked for a minimal case, I selected the Meshify C with a solid side panel. You could go for some nicer cases from fractal, phanteks cases, or even something like the corsair 4000d airflow, all just your preference of style.

Finally, the PSU is an excellent unit and will be sufficient for any build with a 12th gen cpu and a 6900xt, unless you're doing some pretty heavy overclocking. 

 

lmk if you'd like to change anything. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQKz78

Just a quick message in case, since I saw you're active here. I've updated my post and list, please refresh!

[Ian D]

6 minutes ago, Entropy. said:

Just a quick message in case, since I saw you're active here. I've updated my post and list, please refresh!

Really appreciate the detail you went into.  I will definitely consider checking out the 12th gen options.  But I've already pulled the trigger on the 3080ti.  DLSS and raytracing performance are important to me, maybe that's shallow and ignorant but oh well. 

[GhostRoadieBL]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwKz78

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($394.09 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($164.60 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory  ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX500 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($359.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GAMING OC Video Card  ($1299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB320L ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair HX Platinum 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($184.99 @ Newegg)

 

Total: $2888.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-12 23:21 EDT-0400

 

found a few $ to scrape off by going mATX and a slightly different case, ended up putting it back in with 4TB of Sata SSD and a 980Pro 1TB for the OS, also added $10 for 4000mhz RAM which won't make a huge difference but every little adjustment can help get more speed.

 

Personally I would go 12700k which should hold it's own or win in 90% of workloads vs the extra cores from the 5900X. Upgrade path doesn't really exist on either so it's a toss up on which have the features you will actually use (igpu on intel has saved me a few times)

Intel version of same build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/stqCzf

[KaitouX]

7 hours ago, GhostRoadieBL said:

Upgrade path doesn't really exist on either so it's a toss up on which have the features you will actually use (igpu on intel has saved me a few times)

Upcoming Raptor Lake should work on B660/Z690 boards, double the E-cores together with a 5~10% IPC increase, while not amazing, for MT tasks it should be a pretty decent upgrade over the 12700K.

 

8 hours ago, Entropy. said:

I'd be shooting for a 12700 or a 12900 (any variant, the non-k variants will be cheaper as you would be fine on inexpensive motherboards and cooling solutions) and depending on how much you care about rendering and such. The 5900x is going to straddle the line between the 12700 and the 12900 for some productivity workloads (particularly 3d rendering), while the intel chips will beat the 5900x out in practically all gaming workloads. 

Let's go over what I spec'd out and what you can change: 

 

-I chose to go with the lowest-end 12700f in this configuration. You're losing a little, but not all too much over the 12700k, which would cost around $200 more for low single-digit gains (cooler+motherboard+chip). If you wish to have more power, I'd suggest upgrading to the 12900 (any variant), and if you decide to go with a k/f, a beefier cooler and perhaps motherboard (although the current one should be fine on it). 

-The cooler is a relatively performant and inexpensive, should absolutely be able to manage the 12700f, perhaps even the 12700k and 12900/f. 

- The motherboard is eh, has decent ports and alright VRMs, if you upgrade the CPU you'll also want to upgrade this. It should be fine and even has bios flashback, but not extremely good. 

- The ram is just the cheapest I could find. You could always upgrade to a more reliable, slightly more performant kit (crucial), or even go for 64gb if you feel like it. Lots of headroom in this build. 

- The NVME here is the team mp34- good value, performance, and lifetime/warranty. 

- The 6900xt is going to be around 3080ti-ish levels of performance in most workloads, cept' it has more vram, and is around $300 cheaper, currently. 

- Since you asked for a minimal case, I selected the Meshify C with a solid side panel. You could go for some nicer cases from fractal, phanteks cases, or even something like the corsair 4000d airflow, all just your preference of style.

Finally, the PSU is an excellent unit and will be sufficient for any build with a 12th gen cpu and a 6900xt, unless you're doing some pretty heavy overclocking. 

 

lmk if you'd like to change anything. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQKz78

I agree on the 12700F, but I would go with so with a MSI Motherboard, the MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 have similar I/O to the Steel Legend while apparently having better VRMs and being cheaper, the MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 is $20 more but with better audio, I/O and VRMs.

For 3D work usually Nvidia is the go to, as they are quite a bit faster there, in Blender using Optix the 3060Ti beats the 6900XT.

[Entropy.]

3 hours ago, KaitouX said:

I agree on the 12700F, but I would go with so with a MSI Motherboard, the MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 have similar I/O to the Steel Legend while apparently having better VRMs and being cheaper, the MSI MAG B660M MORTAR WIFI DDR4 is $20 more but with better audio, I/O and VRMs.

For 3D work usually Nvidia is the go to, as they are quite a bit faster there, in Blender using Optix the 3060Ti beats the 6900XT.

It's bios flashback vs vrm performance. On a whim I went with the steel legend. 

[Ian D]

1 hour ago, Entropy. said:

It's bios flashback vs vrm performance. On a whim I went with the steel legend. 

If I were to go with the 12700k, how do we feel about the GIGABYTE B660 Gaming?  I would prefer a board with built in wifi. https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B660-AX-DDR4-Motherboard/dp/B09SVZRM13/ref=sr_1_4?c=ts&keywords=Computer+Motherboards&qid=1649866759&refinements=p_n_date%3A1249033011&s=pc&sr=1-4&ts_id=1048424