3200mhz ram but it shows only 1064mhz in speccy?

[Rujdaga]

Hey guys, i got a r5 1500x, ab350m gaming 3 mobo and viper blackout 4 3200mhz 16gb kit, i enabled xmp (which should enable 3200mhz) and i went to speccy, ran a memtest and it shows maximum 1064mhz (ddr is 2128mhz), why's that, how can i make it 3200mhz or smth?

[emosun]

Did you enable the xmp or are you running it stock

 

opps. Check that xmp actually is set at a higher value than stock

[Rujdaga]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

Did you enable the xmp or are you running it stock

Xmp is enabled, 

[R3dbullDrinker]

Just now, Rujdaga said:

Xmp is enabled, 

its enabled but it seems that even though the bios is saying its enabled if you see the two clocks of the selected speed the right side is usually the current speed and the left is the selected.  What happens when you try to save and exit out of the bios does it boot loop and after a few trys it boots?(most bios's reset after saving if the current setting doesnt work.  Your current xmp profile may be not correct and may have to be done manually.  Its a common issue, some suppliers provide wrong details of the rated voltage/spec they should run at. Try setting it manually without changing the voltage/ set xmp so it handles the timings and then set the ram speed from 2133 stress test until you find the most stable.  If it doesnt get you anywhere try and apply some additional voltage but I would highly reccomend researching the specifics of chip manufactures and how much power and heat they can take before modifying anything with the voltage for ram as giving it too much voltage can end in premature failure. 

[Rujdaga]

2 minutes ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

its enabled but it seems that even though the bios is saying its enabled if you see the two clocks of the selected speed the right side is usually the current speed and the left is the selected.  What happens when you try to save and exit out of the bios does it boot loop and after a few trys it boots?(most bios's reset after saving if the current setting doesnt work.  Your current xmp profile may be not correct and may have to be done manually.  Its a common issue, some suppliers provide wrong details of the rated voltage/spec they should run at. Try setting it manually without changing the voltage/ set xmp so it handles the timings and then set the ram speed from 2133 stress test until you find the most stable.  If it doesnt get you anywhere try and apply some additional voltage but I would highly reccomend researching the specifics of chip manufactures and how much power and heat they can take before modifying anything with the voltage for ram as giving it too much voltage can end in premature failure. 

Ill try, also, i found out that my bios is really old, imma update it real quick, my current bios is f6 and the most recent one is f51d, that may fix the problem, and also i dont know how to manually set the speed, can u explain how?

[AudiTTFan]

Speccy hasn't been updated in ages, but I doubt that it has anything to do with the problem

[R3dbullDrinker]

Just now, Rujdaga said:

Ill try, also, i found out that my bios is really old, imma update it real quick, my current bios is f6 and the most recent one is f51d, that may fix the problem, and also i dont know how to manually set the speed, can u explain how?

click on auto and select your speed from there make sure to test it gradually you can go straight to 3200 but it may spit it out, test it with long stress tests 1 hr should suffice.

[Rujdaga]

4 minutes ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

its enabled but it seems that even though the bios is saying its enabled if you see the two clocks of the selected speed the right side is usually the current speed and the left is the selected.  What happens when you try to save and exit out of the bios does it boot loop and after a few trys it boots?(most bios's reset after saving if the current setting doesnt work.  Your current xmp profile may be not correct and may have to be done manually.  Its a common issue, some suppliers provide wrong details of the rated voltage/spec they should run at. Try setting it manually without changing the voltage/ set xmp so it handles the timings and then set the ram speed from 2133 stress test until you find the most stable.  If it doesnt get you anywhere try and apply some additional voltage but I would highly reccomend researching the specifics of chip manufactures and how much power and heat they can take before modifying anything with the voltage for ram as giving it too much voltage can end in premature failure. 

also, should i update it like from f6 to f51d or just go to f40 than f51d? Cuz i saw somewhere that someone said f40 changes how bios updates?

[Rujdaga]

Just now, R3dbullDrinker said:

click on auto and select your speed from there make sure to test it gradually you can go straight to 3200 but it may spit it out, test it with long stress tests 1 hr should suffice.

im clicking on auto and nothing happens

[R3dbullDrinker]

Just now, Rujdaga said:

also, should i update it like from f6 to f51d or just go to f40 than f51d? Cuz i saw somewhere that someone said f40 changes how bios updates?

Whats the newest compatible version?  The motherboard manufacturer wouldnt create an update that would rule out older cpus on it.

[R3dbullDrinker]

Just now, Rujdaga said:

im clicking on auto and nothing happens

try a double click, or enter?

[Rujdaga]

1 minute ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

Whats the newest compatible version?  The motherboard manufacturer wouldnt create an update that would rule out older cpus on it.

the newest bios update is f51d, https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-1x/support#support-dl-bios check it

[Rujdaga]

1 minute ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

try a double click, or enter?

should i slowly update bios from f6 to f31, than to f40, and from f40 to f51d?

[AbydosOne]

22 minutes ago, Rujdaga said:

Hey guys, i got a r5 1500x, ab350m gaming 3 mobo and viper blackout 4 3200mhz 16gb kit, i enabled xmp (which should enable 3200mhz) and i went to speccy, ran a memtest and it shows maximum 1064mhz (ddr is 2128mhz), why's that, how can i make it 3200mhz or smth?

First gen (Ry)Zen + lower-end RAM = bad time getting XMP to work. I couldn't get my 3200 G.Skill Trizent Z (CAS14) to be stable on my previous 1600X until 3000MHz, and I've seen worse from cheaper kits (on Zen+). It's probably failing at memory training and reverting back to last-known-good RAM speeds.

[R3dbullDrinker]

1 minute ago, Rujdaga said:

the newest bios update is f51d, https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-1x/support#support-dl-bios check it

looks good to me try be careful and do not unplug your pc

 

[R3dbullDrinker]

Just now, Rujdaga said:

should i slowly update bios from f6 to f31, than to f40, and from f40 to f51d?

nah you can go straight to newest

 

[Rujdaga]

1 minute ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

nah you can go straight to newest

 

but u can see how they said like before updating to f40 u gotta update to f31 and install smth, than from f40 to f51d?

 

2 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

First gen (Ry)Zen + lower-end RAM = bad time getting XMP to work. I couldn't get my 3200 G.Skill Trizent Z (CAS14) to be stable, and I've seen worse from cheaper kits (on Zen+). It's probably failing at memory training and reverting back to last-known-good RAM speeds.

what do u say bout this?

[R3dbullDrinker]

2 minutes ago, Rujdaga said:

but u can see how they said like before updating to f40 u gotta update to f31 and install smth, than from f40 to f51d?

 

what do u say bout this?

I have found this true on my ryzen 2600x they are really picky with ram.  The thing about reverting to last good ram speeds is true.  I actually agree with him its probably first gen ryzen as a whole they have huge memory issues, especially if you have more than two sticks.  The try and increase the voltage (on youtube) specifically on your specific ram kit.  Your mem controller may just be overwhelmed.

[AbydosOne]

8 minutes ago, Rujdaga said:

what do u say bout this?

I say that that combination of CPU, motherboard, and RAM are not capable of hitting 3200MHz without (at minimum) manual tweaking of timings or (likely) at all. The original Zen memory controller was notoriously poor, which only made the fact that the InfinityFabric clock (until Zen2) was tied directly to RAM speed much more annoying.

 

You can try pushing more voltage to the RAM (but don't overdo it). You can also select XMP, then select a slower frequency to see if you can find a point of stability. You'll probably need to get acquainted with memory stability testing.

 

Word of warning: unstable RAM can lead to all sorts of weird bugs (including: random, unrelated BSoDs; file corruption; bork Windows installs; random app crashes... ask me how I know...), so keep backups and don't push it too far.

[R3dbullDrinker]

6 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

I say that that combination of CPU, motherboard, and RAM are not capable of hitting 3200MHz without (at minimum) manual tweaking of timings or (likely) at all. The original Zen memory controller was notoriously poor, which only made the fact that the InfinityFabric clock (until Zen2) was tied directly to RAM speed much more annoying.

 

You can try pushing more voltage to the RAM (but don't overdo it). You can also select XMP, then select a slower frequency to see if you can find a point of stability. You'll probably need to get acquainted with memory stability testing.

 

Word of warning: unstable RAM can lead to all sorts of weird bugs (including: random, unrelated BSoDs; file corruption; bork Windows installs; random app crashes... ask me how I know...), so keep backups and don't push it too far.

The mem controller on zen+ could be fixed with higher voltage but most ram chips will take it well.  

[Rujdaga]

55 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

I say that that combination of CPU, motherboard, and RAM are not capable of hitting 3200MHz without (at minimum) manual tweaking of timings or (likely) at all. The original Zen memory controller was notoriously poor, which only made the fact that the InfinityFabric clock (until Zen2) was tied directly to RAM speed much more annoying.

 

You can try pushing more voltage to the RAM (but don't overdo it). You can also select XMP, then select a slower frequency to see if you can find a point of stability. You'll probably need to get acquainted with memory stability testing.

 

Word of warning: unstable RAM can lead to all sorts of weird bugs (including: random, unrelated BSoDs; file corruption; bork Windows installs; random app crashes... ask me how I know...), so keep backups and don't push it too far.

 

47 minutes ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

The mem controller on zen+ could be fixed with higher voltage but most ram chips will take it well.  

Hey guys, i updated my bios to f31 (cuz ec fw tool wouldnt update cuz it says flash.dll failed smth, but works, i kept clicking space and now it says 3200mhz in bios, and in task manager.

[R3dbullDrinker]

15 hours ago, Rujdaga said:

 

Hey guys, i updated my bios to f31 (cuz ec fw tool wouldnt update cuz it says flash.dll failed smth, but works, i kept clicking space and now it says 3200mhz in bios, and in task manager.

is it running dual channel in task manager if the speed is running dual channel it should be showing directly half the speed of 3200 1600mhz.

[Rujdaga]

3 hours ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

is it running dual channel in task manager if the speed is running dual channel it should be showing directly half the speed of 3200 1600mhz.

it is dual channel, 

[AbydosOne]

3 hours ago, R3dbullDrinker said:

is it running dual channel in task manager if the speed is running dual channel it should be showing directly half the speed of 3200 1600mhz.

Dual channel does not effect the reported speed of the RAM. The factor of two comes from the "DDR" (double data rate), which transfers at both the rising and falling edges of the clock signal.