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Upgrade CPU now or wait for next gen?

I'm sure this question gets asked a lot. Sorry about that. Right now I have a 4690K which isn't cutting the productivity that I'm trying to do right now. I have wanted to upgrade my CPU for awhile, but I'm someone who upgrades very infrequently so I'm wondering if waiting for AMD's 6000 series is worth it or just get a 5000 series now, and if I do a 6000 series AMD, should I go with DDR4 or DDR5 RAM? 
From a consumer perspective Intel is off the consideration so don't mention it in this thread.

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you've waited this long, might as well wait for 12600k benches and zen 3d, dunno why they'd be off the table since they've been the better bang for buck for the last year and a year.

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3 minutes ago, xg32 said:

you've waited this long, might as well wait for 12600k benches and zen 3d, dunno why they'd be off the table since they've been the better bang for buck for the last year and a year.

🥱 I don't care if they're the better option. Intel has shown time and time again that they don't care about the consumers that buy their product while AMD has. If that's AMD's marketing scheme then I'm buying into it whether its AMD or Intel

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10 minutes ago, Wufflez said:

infrequently so I'm wondering if waiting for AMD's 6000 series is worth it or just get a 5000 series now, and if I do a 6000 series AMD, should I go with DDR4 or DDR5 RAM? 

Realistically speaking you would want to get 6 core 12 thread ASAP as most apps are moving to scale that far, but it depends on how desperate you are for more performance.

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2 minutes ago, Wufflez said:

🥱 I don't care if they're the better option. Intel has shown time and time again that they don't care about the consumers that buy their product while AMD has. If that's AMD's marketing scheme then I'm buying into it whether its AMD or Intel

amd basically did the same thing as soon they got the lead. Anyway the benches are out november 4th and i expect an amd counter right after, i'd wait.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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3 minutes ago, xg32 said:

amd basically did the same thing as soon they got the lead. Anyway the benches are out november 4th and i expect an amd counter right after, i'd wait.

Thank you for that info. I'll be on that lookout for that. Imo intel has become the old AMD. Current gen intel chips consume so much TDP to compete with AMD chips

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7 minutes ago, Wufflez said:

Thank you for that info. I'll be on that lookout for that. Imo intel has become the old AMD. Current gen intel chips consume so much TDP to compete with AMD chips

this was just in another thread lol, 12600k rumored to be 240w and 12900k 330w, 11900k was 300w

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-12900k-overclocked-to-5-2-ghz-on-all-performance-cores-reportedly-consumes-330w-of-power

 

impressive single core, but there's also rumor of latency issues with ddr5 which makes it less optimal for gaming and the score less meaningful, (if you are gaming with the build), i'll be looking at 12th gen ddr4 vs zen3d ddr4, ddr5 might be functional since i dont trust the leaks 100%, it'll be very interesting soon 

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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22 minutes ago, xg32 said:

this was just in another thread lol, 12600k rumored to be 240w and 12900k 330w, 11900k was 300w

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-12900k-overclocked-to-5-2-ghz-on-all-performance-cores-reportedly-consumes-330w-of-power

 

impressive single core, but there's also rumor of latency issues with ddr5 which makes it less optimal for gaming and the score less meaningful, (if you are gaming with the build), i'll be looking at 12th gen ddr4 vs zen3d ddr4, ddr5 might be functional since i dont trust the leaks 100%, it'll be very interesting soon 

This is also what I heard about DDR5. More bandwidth but poorer latency which would hurt it a lot in games. I guess I'll just have to wait for the tests

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I'm currently running the I5 3570k ... I need to upgrade soon because after nearly 8 years of abuse my machine is nearing its end.

 

And too I'm pondering in grabbing a x570 based system, or wait for the next gen, because with intel and amd right now, every now baught system won't be upgradeable in the future regarding CPU or RAM. 

 

And if I shell out 1k-1.5k bucks for a new system it better lasts 7-8 years like my current one did. (and the upgrade from core2duo to this i5 was only about 500 bucks... with board, cpu and ram.)

 

So right now, I'll hope my machine keeps up until the next gen is out.

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1 hour ago, Wufflez said:

🥱 I don't care if they're the better option. Intel has shown time and time again that they don't care about the consumers that buy their product while AMD has. If that's AMD's marketing scheme then I'm buying into it whether its AMD or Intel

You should never think like this if you are after a product, understand that AMD are just as dubious when they want to be and they too only care about getting money, that is what a business is for.

 

And no don't wait, buy now, the 5600x and above has nothing that it can't run with the best GPU's,

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1 hour ago, Wufflez said:

I'm sure this question gets asked a lot. Sorry about that. Right now I have a 4690K which isn't cutting the productivity that I'm trying to do right now. I have wanted to upgrade my CPU for awhile, but I'm someone who upgrades very infrequently so I'm wondering if waiting for AMD's 6000 series is worth it or just get a 5000 series now, and if I do a 6000 series AMD, should I go with DDR4 or DDR5 RAM? 
From a consumer perspective Intel is off the consideration so don't mention it in this thread.

Idk maybe just wait

 

In the meantime overclock that i5 cause thats wasted potential if you dont

 

I think deathzone is ~1.9, absolute max "safe" volt ~1.6v, reccomended safe volt 1.52v (intel 14nm spec, identical deathzone volts between 22 and 14nm), keep temps under 85c but under 80c is pref

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3 hours ago, Wufflez said:

🥱 I don't care if they're the better option. Intel has shown time and time again that they don't care about the consumers that buy their product while AMD has. If that's AMD's marketing scheme then I'm buying into it whether its AMD or Intel

Hah. Neither cares like at all. Just buy whatever performs best for your needs. That and 12th gen launches in the next 2 weeks so yeah I'd say at least wait for that.

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