cpu cores

[TheOddOne]

this is my explanation tell me if im right

 

intel 8 cores is 8 cashiers scanning items faster than a 2 cores (2 cashiers)

we all know the more cashiers there are the faster they can scan the items for the customers

[Wtalk2]

Pretty much correct

[Bluejay0]

Wrong Sub-forum

[AlwaysFSX]

I guess that analogy works?

[FlamingDefibs]

I'm sorry, what?

[Glenwing]

Yeah, something like that.  But some tasks cannot be split up, so if you do those kind of things (i.e. games) it's better to have maybe 4 really fast senior cashiers instead of 8 new guys

 

(And, moved to CPU section)

[Izaya Orihara]

To a certain extend. But a intel 8 core would be 2600$ so... yeah. 

[TheOddOne]

Yeah, something like that.  But some tasks cannot be split up, so if you do those kind of things (i.e. games) it's better to have maybe 4 really fast senior cashiers instead of 8 new guys

 

(And, moved to CPU section)

isnt the 8 new guys amd 8 cores and the intel 8 cores is experienced cashiers?

[SAV1OUR]

To a certain extend. But a intel 8 core would be 2600$ so... yeah. 

well we dont know right now the details about z97 and such  

[Glenwing]

isnt the 8 new guys amd 8 cores and the intel 8 cores is experienced cashiers?

 

Sure.

[Ryan Leech]

sure.

[Askew]

It isn't just the number of cashiers that increase the rate of scanning.

 

For example a 4570K is faster than a Q6600, they both have 4 cores but there are more elements at play, it's been posted above but it's important to remember. One of the most common phrases I will overhear a novice saying about his computer is "It's really fast, it's got a quad core in it." or something to that effect.

 

But what quad core is it, that's equally important.

[deathjester]

It isn't just the number of cashiers that increase the rate of scanning.

 

For example a 4570K is faster than a Q6600, they both have 4 cores but there are more elements at play, it's been posted above but it's important to remember. One of the most common phrases I will overhear a novice saying about his computer is "It's really fast, it's got a quad core in it." or something to that effect.

 

But what quad core is it, that's equally important.

 

Bingo. Plus what is a real 8 core?  If Each of the cores shares resources with another core, one core can be waiting while the other core is busy using those shared resources. If there are 4 chip sections and 2 "cores" on each section. That ain't a 8 core. These next gen "8 core" mobile chips at 1.6-1.7ghz  on a console aren't 8 cores. The I7 isn't a 8 core.

 

AMD "8 cores"? Same crap. All of these are pseudo 8 cores. You can spin it with marketing any way you want, but if you want a real 8 core? Buy a Haswell-E. I have no idea why you would need that for games, but for non gaming? Yeah that thing is going to be incredible.

 

Here is multicore performance. A true 6 core (2011 chip) slaughters pseudo 8 cores.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

 

Speed per core, which is VERY important in gaming.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=1

 

A Q Quad is 4 real cores, but it is going to get it's head kicked in by a I3 with HT in games. Cores aren't all that matter. Single core performance also matters. The reason AMD chips are slower on games then an I5, even when optimized pretty well is single core. 

 

Here are Elder Scrolls Online benchmarks. Why is a "next gen title" that is made for "8 core" CPU's running faster on an I3 then a 8350? Cus they aren't real 8 cores and because Floating point matters. HT and more "integer cores" can help, but you still want fast floating point. Not saying the I3 is a better buy than a 8320, since low level API's are coming and the 83xx will get closer to the I5, but the I3 is going to improve with a low level API as well... There is no way I would ever buy a 8350 over an I5 for gaming. There is no way I would buy a I3 over a 8320 for light gaming and more rendering/work stuff either. 

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/the-elder-scrolls-online-performance,3789-8.html

[Askew]

Bingo. Plus what is a real 8 core?  If Each of the cores shares resources with another core, one core can be waiting while the other core is busy using those shared resources. If there are 4 chip sections and 2 "cores" on each section. That ain't a 8 core. These next gen "8 core" mobile chips at 1.6-1.7ghz  on a console aren't 8 cores. The I7 isn't a 8 core.

 

AMD "8 cores"? Same crap. All of these are pseudo 8 cores. You can spin it with marketing any way you want, but if you want a real 8 core? Buy a Haswell-E. I have no idea why you would need that for games, but for non gaming? Yeah that thing is going to be incredible.

 

Here is multicore performance. A true 6 core (2011 chip) slaughters pseudo 8 cores.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

 

Speed per core, which is VERY important in gaming.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlC81MjwelBgdEZNV3l6aHl1eUNwSUR4Rml0MXMzN1E&usp=sharing#gid=1

 

A Q Quad is 4 real cores, but it is going to get it's head kicked in by a I3 with HT in games. Cores aren't all that matter. Single core performance also matters. The reason AMD chips are slower on games then an I5, even when optimized pretty well is single core. 

 

Here are Elder Scrolls Online benchmarks. Why is a "next gen title" that is made for "8 core" CPU's running faster on an I3 then a 8350? Cus they aren't real 8 cores and because Floating point matters. HT and more "integer cores" can help, but you still want fast floating point. Not saying the I3 is a better buy than a 8320, since low level API's are coming and the 83xx will get closer to the I5, but the I3 is going to improve with a low level API as well... There is no way I would ever buy a 8350 over an I5 for gaming. There is no way I would buy a I3 over a 8320 for light gaming and more rendering/work stuff either. 

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/the-elder-scrolls-online-performance,3789-8.html

 

I appreciate your sentiment, and I think that of late it has come into question what the term 'core' actually represents, but in this thread do you honestly think OP is going to understand any of what you have just posted?

 

It is going to be information overload for him.