Considering Intel

[jasonditz]

Budget (including currency): $1500 or $1600

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Total War Warhammer III, Linux

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Upgrading from i7-4790 with 16 GB, GeForce 745, and 1 TB Samsung SATA SSD. Windows 10

 

also Upgrading from an A10-6800K with 16 GB and a 750 GB SATA 3.0 speed HDD. Kubuntu

 

Considering Buying:

i9-10900KF   - $437.99
 
 Noctua NH-D15 SSO2 D-Type Premium CPU Cooler  $99.99
 
ASRock H570M PRO4 LGA 1200  - #104.99

G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000     $214.99

Intel Optane Memory Module 16GB M.2 80mm PCIe 3.0 20nm 3D Xpoint   $12.00

Western Digital WD Blue SN550 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB $99.99  /boot

WD Blue 4TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 5400 RPM $82.99  /home and /opt

rx 6600 xt  $379
OR
MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB GDDR5   $279

LIAN LI LANCOOL II MESH RGB BLACK $118.99

Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 750W 80+ Gold $104.99

fenvi FV-AX3000 WiFi 6 PCI-E 3000Mbps Bluetooth 5.1 $32.90

XUbuntu

 

Note:

 

[RABANGASH]

Personally, I think you should choose a better graphics card. You shouldn't pair a $200 gpu with a $400 cpu. So, maybe even change the cpu to an i7 or another i9.

[Chris Pratt]

For the price, a 5800X will stomp the 10900K. Personally, I wouldn't go Intel at this point unless it's under $400. You still have the 5600X offering competition at the the $280-300 level, but there's cheaper Intel 8 core chips that can beat AMD on performance for dollar below $400. Once you're getting close to $450, Intel has nothing that competes with AMD.

[SorryBella]

44 minutes ago, jasonditz said:

Budget (including currency): $1500 or $1600

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($279.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: FSP Group Windale 6 60 CFM CPU Cooler  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($87.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($114.08 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card  ($650.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($94.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1457.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-09 20:42 EDT-0400

 

You can easily get all AMD setup at that price, you only need Intel if you gonna run 1440p and get a 3080.

[Marcos1121231234]

I would get the first one but with and i7 and only 16 gigs of ram

[jasonditz]

I want the Radeon 6600 mainly for better Linux drivers. Either way, the GPU needs for the games I play are extremely modest. The GTX 745 has met my needs fine, and it's only now a few games I play that it is struggling with on good settings. 1440p on an ASUS pb277 @75 Hz is the monitor is all I'm driving.

The i9-10900K seems like an interesting CPU to play with because, with that Noctua, it seems to be able to run at nearly 5 Ghz turbo on a sustained basis. I'm envisioning that making for some nice compile times.

 

I'm also interested with Intel to play with that Optane M.2 to speed up the HDD.

[Jonathan Lee]

1 hour ago, jasonditz said:

ASRock H570M PRO4 LGA 1200  - #104.99

This motherboard will probably blow up if you try running a 10900 on it lol. You also won't be able to run 4000mhz memory on it.  You should at least use a z490 board with that CPU. 10900 is a good CPU, having 10 cores should give you some "future proofing." Some motherboards I would recommend:

MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK

ASRock Z490 Steel Legend

Gigabyte Z490 VISION G

 

1 hour ago, jasonditz said:

rx 6600 xt  $379

Not really a good GPU to match with a 10900, either go up with the graphics or consider going down to an i7-10700 or i5-10400; these are good value CPU's right now.

[Jonathan Lee]

1 hour ago, jasonditz said:

Western Digital WD Blue SN550 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB $99.99  /boot

Oh missed this, you might want to consider getting a ssd with a dram cache. Here are some recommendations:

Kingston A2000

Silicon Power A80

Western Digital SN750

[jasonditz]

I appreciate the input, especially on the motherboard choice and SSD. I'm not necessarily looking for a top bang for the buck build, but I do want a general sanity to the parts selection.

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

5800x will crush that 10900

 

And the k cpu is useless since you are pairing it with a non oc mobo

 

 

If you really want a maximum single thread pc go for an 11700k and oc the shit out of it, 11900k is just a binned version of the 11700k so dont bother

[KaitouX]

8 hours ago, jasonditz said:

I want the Radeon 6600 mainly for better Linux drivers. Either way, the GPU needs for the games I play are extremely modest. The GTX 745 has met my needs fine, and it's only now a few games I play that it is struggling with on good settings. 1440p on an ASUS pb277 @75 Hz is the monitor is all I'm driving.

The i9-10900K seems like an interesting CPU to play with because, with that Noctua, it seems to be able to run at nearly 5 Ghz turbo on a sustained basis. I'm envisioning that making for some nice compile times.

 

I'm also interested with Intel to play with that Optane M.2 to speed up the HDD.

For 1440p 75Hz the CPU doesn't really matter, any recent CPU should achieve that. If you don't need that much GPU power you could try getting by with your current GPU until prices are better and upgrade it then, as the 6600XT have a horrible MSRP and most likely will be extremely hard to obtain at that MSRP.

For compiling Ryzen should be the way to go in most cases unless you can get the Intel for a good price. I would consider either the 5800X with the Noctua or the 5900X with a cheaper cooler, something like the Scythe Fuma to cover a bit of the cost difference. Try looking at Phoronix for reviews of the CPUs and check if the price/performance difference makes sense for you, you can also check other sites like Anandtech, Techpowerup and Techspot for some extra information on performance in other areas.

[jasonditz]

10 hours ago, KaitouX said:

For 1440p 75Hz the CPU doesn't really matter, any recent CPU should achieve that. If you don't need that much GPU power you could try getting by with your current GPU until prices are better and upgrade it then, as the 6600XT have a horrible MSRP and most likely will be extremely hard to obtain at that MSRP.

The GTX 745 has performed well for a lot of years. TW: Warhammer 2, however, runs poorly on it, and the upcoming TW: Warhammer 3 looks like it'll be even worse, or may not run at all. The i7-4790 still performs okay, so in ordinary times I'd consider doing just a GPU upgrade, but the 745 is living in a Dell XPS, with one of those tiny, underpowered oem power supplies.

 

I figured given this, and the fact that it's been like 7-8 years it's time build something new. Even if I didn't badly need a new CPU, there's an embarrassment of riches right now to choose from on AMD and Intel. GPU availability being what it is, this new system might need a placeholder GPU to start with, but I think it needs to be a skosh better than 745. If I did get lucky on the 6600XT, with my modest GPU needs that could last me a very long time indeed.